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Radon instrument comparison


 

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Attached is a comparison between the Smart CAM and a Niton (Durridge) RAD 7. It will be interesting to see Geo¡¯s FemtoTech data.

Note that the CAM integrates the readings over a period of time which can be set in the software. I used 60 sec for the short acute and 140 for the chronic long. The default was 240 long and 140 short. I was more interested is fast response. The Po-218 needs to get to equilibrium which takes about 30 min.

I used a flow rate of 1.13 cfm (32 lpm) which is about what was recommended on the CAM. The RAD 7 is very slow in the 100ml range I believe.

There are some setting in the CAM that are not well explained.

In order to get a radon reading without an exponent of E-17 go into the Channels Options and change the lifetime to 186 which is the half life of Po-218. Why that was set at E-17 was wrong

Under channels tab you can check the Show differential and Integral which displays a RADON acute or Chronic in pCi/ml and a pCih/ml which was always zero so far. If you turn off the 2 check marks the display for radon is just RADON pCi/ml. If you check activity (differential is auto checked) it displays RADON in pCi/ml and pCi (activity).

It would be nice if they had a way to use l rather than ml but, hey, what¡¯s 3 orders of magnitude anyhow.

I¡¯m working on getting a price and supplier of the filter cards. We can do a group deal if anyone is interested.

Dud

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geo Dowell
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 1:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Alpha and Beta particle nuclear decay studies. need some pointers to background info on this topic

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THANKS Dud, great to know. Once I get it lined out, I'll start comparing to the Femtotech.

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how on earth did you figure that, was it in the manual?

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Geo

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From: Dude <dfemer@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 27 May 2022 14:36:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Alpha and Beta particle nuclear decay studies. need some pointers to background info on this topic

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Geo/Nick

To convert the wacko ?E-17
radon reading go to command mode with the Key get to the Radon tab and change
the 1e-16 to 186 which is the Po218 half life.. Bring up the Radon Acute default
page to read Po 218 acute and Radon Acute. It will be in pCi/ml multiply by
1000 to get pCi/l. ?I need to use Radon raw and Po raw but I still need to figure
out how to do that.

I¡¯m running the RAD 7and
the SmartCAM together and the CAM showing 3.5 pCi/l ?while The RAD 7 is averaging
4.0 pCi/l ?+- 2.1. Doing a manual calculation it always comes up low by a
factor 3 or so. That ma be due to not having all their corrections in there and
using acute cps

Dud

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From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geo Dowell
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 10:42
AM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: Alpha and Beta
particle nuclear decay studies. need some pointers to background info on this
topic

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Geo,

What kind of solid samples
are going to run? One needs to be very careful not to crap up the detector.
Most alpha samples are via liquid chem electro-deposited on steel disk, swipe
and air sample filters. Don¡¯t put a loose sample in there.

Dud"




A few different
electroplated discs on the IMPEX,




But other units, anything
I can lay my hands on




Been collecting and
waiting for this phase for a long time. All new to me.?




Geo

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From: Dude <dfemer@...>

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Sent: Fri, 27 May 2022 13:16:02 -0400 (EDT)

Subject: Re: Alpha and Beta particle nuclear decay studies. need some pointers
to background info on this topic

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Peter,

The Smart Cam and usual

Radon sampling run around 32 L/min (1 cft/min).

Geo,

What kind of solid samples

are going to run? One needs to be very careful not to crap up the detector.

Most alpha samples are via liquid chem electro-deposited on steel disk, swipe

and air sample filters. Don¡¯t put a loose sample in there.

Dud

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From:

[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geo Dowell
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 1:45 AM
To:

[email protected]
Subject: Re: Alpha and Beta

particle nuclear decay studies. need some pointers to background info on this

topic

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P, are you interested in

Alpha in air? That's fine, my intention was to do Alpha solid samples with my

6A head.

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Geo

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From: peter via groups.io <epkoncept@...>


To: [email protected]


Sent: Thu, 26 May 2022 23:54:53 -0400 (EDT)


Subject: Re: Alpha and Beta particle nuclear decay studies. need some pointers

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Need some advice.


What sort of airflow does the Eberline 6A expect ?


Or more useful is what sort of airflow should I use ? I don't know how make use

of the airflow control circuit in the 6A so I thought I might plumb the air

directly from a pump.


I have an old SKC air sampler pump. It sucks, but I can also get it to pump. It

goes up to 5l/min


4l/m @ 20" of back pressure.




P

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