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Completed Build, But Odd Behaviour
New to the group, hoping to get some advice to get my little tuner going.
What I have is the typical Aliexpress kit, preloaded with 3.2.? I ordered the version that supplies SO-239 connectors and the Auto and Bypass switches. It went together reasonably well.? The only assembly details that might be of note are:
I'm at a loss as to what to try, where to look.? I suppose it's possible that there are a few issues at play here, so maybe the first place to check is at the Bypass and Auto connections on the bottom of the board.? I can feel the anxiety building though, just thinking about putting the iron to those spots again... ;-) I spend some time looking for a procedure to follow to troubleshoot this tuner, but found nothing. All suggestions appreciated! 73 Brock VA7AV |
I'm guessing you may have damaged the auto and bypass switches while soldering. I did exactly that with my auto switch. I used magnet wire for the ground bus and overheated to burn off the insulation. I was able to rescue it by reheating the sunken terminal and pulling it out of the switch somewhat, though I'm on the lookout for better quality switches. Try disconnecting the wires from the switches and shorting them to ground manually.?
Your SWR and power readings are probably off due to the inferior Shottky RF-sensing diodes. Mine is also off (Ali-Express, Hisonauto). I ordered some 1N5711 diodes from Mouser. I'll have them early this week and I will post an update. The Ali listing for my tuner claimed that it would tune down to 1 W. It seems to do that just fine using my KX3. I did not do the binocular transformer mod and programming change. |
Hi Steve, Thanks for your reply.? I know what you mean about the switches... the package options I ordered resulted in me receiving two Tune switches.? Which was good, because one failed simply soldering regular wire on.? I barely gave it enough heat to get the solder to flow and it was dead when I tested.? It might have been dead before I soldered - didn't test in advance - but it was surely dead after one solder joint.? Not great quality for sure! I sorted out my switch problem after sleeping on it.? The photos provided in the package shows the wires to the Tune switch reversed.? While wondering how both switches could have a problem, it occured to me that maybe the common point was wrong.? Checked my work this morning against the photos...nope, all good.? Dug out the schematic to confirm... NOPE!! :-)? The tiny board points are looking for ground, not?+5, so I swapped those connections around and the switches all work. However, my radio is still reporting high SWR even when the tuner is indicating a match and showing L and C values.? And of course, the power reported by the tuner is still waaaay out of whack.? If this is the fault of the Shottky?diodes, I'll be interested to hear what your swap indicates. So my original post can be edited to question the following now:
I'm wondering how much of the above could be the result of using SO-239 connectors with unshielded wires to the board? And whether the wire I used for the single passes through the binocular transformer might be relevant? The fun and games continue... that's why we do this, right??? 73? Brock VA7AV On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 7:34 AM K9NUD-Steve <k9nud@...> wrote: I'm guessing you may have damaged the auto and bypass switches while soldering. I did exactly that with my auto switch. I used magnet wire for the ground bus and overheated to burn off the insulation. I was able to rescue it by reheating the sunken terminal and pulling it out of the switch somewhat, though I'm on the lookout for better quality switches. Try disconnecting the wires from the switches and shorting them to ground manually.? |
Hi Michael,
Yes, I can provide an update. The seller offered to send me some replacement Schottky diodes, which eventually arrived.? They turned out to be axial diodes, not surface mount, so that was good to see.? The board actually has pads for non-surface mount diodes, so it was actually fairly easy to pop the original ones off the board and get the new larger ones in place. However, that didn't solve the problem.? Although, I think the power reading is now more accurately inaccurate... I'd say it's closer to exactly 10x actual transmit power than it was before... LOL I'm also noticing that when TX stops, it takes a short time for the display to return to 'receive' readings (0 W, 0 SWR).? If I transmit with 5 watts, it shows around 50 watts.? Then when TX shuts off, the display reads 50W, 17W, 5W, 0.5W, 0... as it seems to refresh.? Slowly enough that I can read all the decrementing numbers, but quick enough that it's probably less than 1.5 to 2 seconds in total. I'm guessing there's a capacitor involved, maybe a bleed resistor, but I'm in no way competent enough to find where or confirm.? If the wrong value of either surface mount component was placed on the board, somewhere, by the board builder, I'm wondering if this would be possible. While waiting for the diodes, I ended up ordering another ATU-100 kit from a different seller.? I built it also (easier the second time for sure!).? So far, it seems to function properly and the display certainly indicates what I think the correct power actually is.? Having done it twice, the same way, I have to think the original unit has a problem from the seller.? Unless there's a cold solder joint somewhere that I should be blamed for.? I'd be grateful if anyone who is familiar with the schematic and operation could suggest where to look. The bypass and auto switches are indeed momentary.? The only tricky part is connecting wires to the underside of the board for these switches.? The pads are very small and there's no hole to help you out.? A steady hand and it's not too bad, just a bit of a pain.? I'm actually a bit surprised that the board isn't set up to allow for these connections with holes and larger pads. 73 Brock VA7AV |
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