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its a 220pf 500v silver mica according to the circuit diagram

its probably a 220pf ceramic in 0805 size from what I observe of an unbuilt PCB - hth

On 21/03/2023 01:33, Paul M3VUV wrote:

ive burned a cap in my atu,see pic,can anyone recomend what i need to replace it with ,ie value and type?,cheers +73


 

Surface mount silver mica capacitors exist. You have to step up to the larger 1210 size rather than 0805 to get parts that are rated for 500V; the 0805 ones are only rated for 100V. You're unlikely to encounter silver mica capacitors in ATU100 kits or assembled tuners from China because they are expensive;

For example, here is a suitable part from Digi-Key in the 1210 size:?? Those cost $4.23 in quantity one, coming down to $2.65 if you buy 100 or $1.74 if you buy 5,000, but you can't currently buy 5,000 because they don't have that many in stock. The smaller values are a bit less expensive, and prices in China are likely to be lower than US distributor prices, but nonetheless it would be prohibitively costly for the kit seller in China to provide seven of those capacitors in a kit that sells for about $30 delivered.

NP0 ceramic capacitors are much less expensive, and they're available in an 0805 package. For comparison, here is the least expensive 500V NP0 capacitor in the 0805 package on Digi-Key:?? That one costs 18 cents in quantity one, 6 cents in quantity 100, or 3 cents each on a reel of 4,000. Those are the kind of parts you're going to find in a kit from China, not the expensive silver mica version. Other brands are more expensive; the next cheapest one that's in stock right now costs 48 cents in quantity one, which is still far cheaper than the silver mica.

Will the less expensive ceramic capacitor work? If they have provided high quality ceramic caps, yes. Will losses be as low as the silver mica? Unknown; testing is in order.

On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 6:19?AM mike <pencoys@...> wrote:

its a 220pf 500v silver mica according to the circuit diagram

its probably a 220pf ceramic in 0805 size from what I observe of an unbuilt PCB - hth

On 21/03/2023 01:33, Paul M3VUV wrote:
ive burned a cap in my atu,see pic,can anyone recomend what i need to replace it with ,ie value and type?,cheers +73


 

If you don't want to use leaded SM caps, Vishay makes a nice RF cap in 1111 format that just fits. VJ1111D221KXLAT. That's what I used in 'project overkill'. The relays or the pcb traces will arc before the passive components. Toroids from Kits and Parts, of course.



73 de va3rr


 

digikey uk can go fcuk themselfs ?12 shipping on a ?1.07 order,i think not!


 

Mouser and Digikey have minimum fixed shipping. I make a list of parts and when I have enough to justify the price I send in an order.

Mike N2MS

On 03/22/2023 9:41 AM Paul M3VUV <nanovnauser@...> wrote:


digikey uk can go fcuk themselfs ?12 shipping on a ?1.07 order,i think not!


 

If I can put together a $100 CAD order, I get free shipping. Mike, do you know what the threshold for free shipping is in the US? I have a mailing address in the Ohio I can use...

tia de va3rr

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 09:49 AM, N2MS wrote:
Mouser and Digikey have minimum fixed shipping. I make a list of parts and
when I have enough to justify the price I send in an order.


 

I don't know if they normally offer free shipping. What they have is a minimum shipping. Mouser has $7.99 for small orders. When I order small parts this price usually covers the order.

Mike N2MS

On 03/22/2023 10:09 AM va3rr via groups.io <va3rr@...> wrote:


If I can put together a $100 CAD order, I get free shipping. Mike, do you know what the threshold for free shipping is in the US? I have a mailing address in the Ohio I can use...

tia de va3rr


 

It's a $60 AUD threshhold here in Australia and I received my most recent order within 4 days of being placed, from the US with the final leg being undertaken by Australia Post. Unbelievable service and in stark contrast with the order I received from Element14 (Farnell) yesterday. That was ordered back on 22 February. When I questioned its non-arrival I was advised on 9 March that the parts were ready to be shipped but even then it took a further 13 days to have them actually arrive and that was only from Sydney.

Bill VK7MX

On 23/03/2023 1:09 am, va3rr via groups.io wrote:
If I can put together a $100 CAD order, I get free shipping. Mike, do you know what the threshold for free shipping is in the US? I have a mailing address in the Ohio I can use...

tia de va3rr

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 09:49 AM, N2MS wrote:
Mouser and Digikey have minimum fixed shipping. I make a list of parts and
when I have enough to justify the price I send in an order.


 

I've also dealt with LCSC for components when I ran a group purchase for partially assembled (tr)u-SDX boards, and DL2MAN bases his BOM mostly on LCSC part numbers. I recall the shipping being relatively cheap and they do seem to have a pretty good selection of parts, as long as you exercise due diligence.

Just throwing it out there as a possible alternative...

73 de Russ, va3rr


 

the order was for 5x smd caps that would fit in a normal envelope,whats a first class stamp about ?1 say 40p for the envelope,so a markup of ?11.50 ish,they can ram it! up there @rss


 

Well now working againe,replaced the damaged cap with a 500v thru hole item,so far all is ok.,would a big missmatch have been the cause,or just crap parts?.73 m3vuv.


 

Hi, Paul
Due to wrong value it could don't work at all.
Or it can start tune continuously due to high loss and heating components.
I would install cheap trough hole silver mica 250v caps.?