Re: ATU-10: programming the PIC16F1454?
Hi Tony,
I can't understand your comment re the wire to supply the voltage to the programmer. All you need are the five connections from the PICkit 3 to the five points (J2) on the ATU-10 PCB. You shouldn't require any other wires. You do need to power up the ATU-10 board via its USB port so the PIC can get its supply.
When it comes to the MPLAB suite you need the IPE app for programming the device, not the IDE which is used for creating the code to put on the PICs. If you've downloaded the suite it should be on your PC somewhere, normally both app shortcuts appear on the desktop during the installation unless informed not to.
Start up the IPE, go to Settings/Advanced Mode and enter the password, 'microchip' if it's a fresh install.
Click on Power, under voltage options 'power target from PICkit 3' should be selected already, select 3V375 from the voltage level drop-down options.
Under programming options, the 'use low voltage programming' option is unchecked, and change the programming method drop-down to the one that says 'recommended'.
Now click on the 'Operate' tab, the device drop-down selection should be the 1454, the tool should show the connected PICkit 3. Click on connect which should, after a short period, show the device ID of the connected PIC. Add the hex file to the appropriate file selection window below the row of big buttons and then click the 'Program' big button. Should only take about 10s or less to do its thing and there it is, one programmed 1454.
You can now carry on with the build.
Hope this helps get you sorted. All the best.
Robbie M1ROK
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Re: ATU-10: programming the PIC16F1454?
Dear Robbie,
Thank you for the comments!
My previous attempts were made WITHOUT the wire that would supply the voltage from the programmer, so the chip was powered with 3,3 volts throughout.
(I've downloaded, installed and tried to run the MPLAB X IDE v6. It is SO huge - I was lost immediatelly. Where is the programming functionality there? I doubt it recognised my PICkit 2 clone either...)
Warm regards,
Tony
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Re: ATU-10: programming the PIC16F1454?
Tony, connections to the ATU-10 PCB were 1 to 1, 2 to 2, 3 to 3, 4 to 4 and 5 to 5. There's a 6 on the PICkit units but it isn't used here. Pin 1 on the ATU-10 PCB is marked with a 1 and is also a square pad so just keep all five connections in line between PICkit and PCB.
In MPLAB you can select family type as midrange, but on mine I didn't need to, just select the 1454 from the other dropdown - if it's not there then yes, select midrange family which should make it appear.
If you've set power in the Advanced menu for 3V3, plus the other selectable option is set to the one that mentions 'recommended' (mine was defaulted to the other option), you should be good to go. That's assuming any previous attempts at programming the PIC whilst it was set at 5V haven't damaged the 1454...
Robbie M1ROK
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Re: ATU-10: programming the PIC16F1454?
Hello! Forgot to ask in the first message:
- is it normal that I have to manually search for the chip type?
It is only recognised by its' ID if I choose the Device Family -> Midrange -> 1,8v MinII menu entry. Warm regards, Tony
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Re: ATU-10: programming the PIC16F1454?
Hello!
If I need to rely on MPLAB, which version to use?
The recent is , will it support my PICkit-2 (clone)?
Warm regards,
Tony
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Re: ATU-10: programming the PIC16F1454?
Dear Robbie,
I'm about to add a wire from the programmer's pad #2 to VDD pin of the PIC16F1454 chip, may be - temporarily - removing the LDO stab (to avoid possible damage by reverse voltage).
I thought the programming fails because of undervoltage (3,3 vs 5,0 volts power). Am I wrong?
Warm regards,
Tony
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Re: ATU-10: programming the PIC16F1454?
Tony, I used MPLAB with the PICkit 3, but you have to make sure it's set for 3V3 in the Advanced menu - the app's default is 5V so it would always fail the programming sequence.
Robbie M1ROK
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ATU-10: programming the PIC16F1454?
Hello!
My PICkit-2 has just arrived, neither the nor the recognise this clone. Only the (taken from ) handles the programmer and detects the PIC16F1454 chip (ID 3020).
All I could do so far - is only to erase the initial (the "XPRESS" that came with PIC16F1454 from the DM164142 board) firmware.
It tries to program but fails to verify the programmed contents.
Could that be because the chip is powered with 3,3 Volts (from ATU-10) rather that with 5 Volts from the PICkit 2?
Thank you in advance.
Warm regards,
Tony
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Re: ATU100 Randomly changing mode
#atu-100
This is known problem of this tuner. You have to add decoupling caps and ferrite beads to the buttons wires
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Re: 7x7 Kit worth replacing toroid cores, ballun core and installing silver mica caps?
Definitely worth replacing the caps....I had several of mine burn up during normal operation at 100w
Steve G4EDG?
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Re: Bypass for ATU-100 with only one button?
Thank you both for this additional info. Mine does have yellow
relays. I'll cautiously test running TX through it when powered off,
and see how the radio responds (I'm using an antenna that is
resonant on 40m in my configuration, so I'll test there.)
73, Joe KF7MIX
On 5/24/22 19:38, VR2XLQ wrote:
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Yes, if the relay is non-latched type (usually
yellow in colour), it will be reset to off stage when no power
is applied. Mine version is ATU-10, it uses latched type (white
in colour). It keeps in the previous position when power off.
The adv is it uses less power and keep the status, the trade-off
is the cost of the relay. Not sure if there is any latched
ATU-100 model on the market or you can change it to latched type
relay yourself for a trial.
The ATU-100 has non-latching relays. It should
reset to a pass through configuration when off but I haven’t
tested mine.?
The bypass switch is momentary contact. The
display shows when you are in tuning mode or bypass mode.?
Colin
K6JTH?
On Tue, May 24, 2022 at
11:38 AM Joe - KF7MIX < joe@...>
wrote:
I readily admit
that I'm very much an amateur when it comes to
schematics, so forgive me one more question:
I notice that if I listen to a band with the ATU-100
in-line but powered off, the RX seems to be just as
good as if I connect my antenna directly to the radio.
Why is this? Is there danger in transmitting if the
ATU-100 is powered off? Thanks for any details you can
provide,
73, Joe KF7MIX
On 5/23/22 20:09, Joe - KF7MIX wrote:
Excellent, thank you! I'll
get in there and see if I can find that pad. In the
schematic, is that a toggle switch? I can't find the
schematic symbol online... is it saying that I'd
switch that pad to ground to enable bypass (versus a
momentary pushbutton)?
Again, thanks,
73, Joe KF7MIX
On 5/23/22 18:20, Colin Kaminski wrote:
Hi Joe,
I have the button but when I was making it
I just soldered a wire to the pad marked RB2.
It is close to the processor chip on the side
of the board close to the controls. I am
pretty sure I just ground it with the switch.
Here is the schematic.
Colin?
K6JTH
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Re: Bypass for ATU-100 with only one button?
Yes, if the relay is non-latched type (usually yellow in colour), it will be reset to off stage when no power is applied. Mine version is ATU-10, it uses latched type (white in colour). It keeps in the previous position when power off. The adv is it uses less power and keep the status, the trade-off is the cost of the relay. Not sure if there is any latched ATU-100 model on the market or you can change it to latched type relay yourself for a trial.
The ATU-100 has non-latching relays. It should reset to a pass through configuration when off but I haven’t tested mine.?
The bypass switch is momentary contact. The display shows when you are in tuning mode or bypass mode.?
Colin K6JTH? On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 11:38 AM Joe - KF7MIX < joe@...> wrote:
I readily admit that I'm very much an amateur when it comes to
schematics, so forgive me one more question:
I notice that if I listen to a band with the ATU-100 in-line but
powered off, the RX seems to be just as good as if I connect my
antenna directly to the radio. Why is this? Is there danger in
transmitting if the ATU-100 is powered off? Thanks for any details
you can provide,
73, Joe KF7MIX
On 5/23/22 20:09, Joe - KF7MIX wrote:
Excellent, thank you! I'll get in there and see if I can find that
pad. In the schematic, is that a toggle switch? I can't find the
schematic symbol online... is it saying that I'd switch that pad
to ground to enable bypass (versus a momentary pushbutton)?
Again, thanks,
73, Joe KF7MIX
On 5/23/22 18:20, Colin Kaminski
wrote:
Hi Joe,
I have the button but when I was making it I just
soldered a wire to the pad marked RB2. It is close to the
processor chip on the side of the board close to the
controls. I am pretty sure I just ground it with the switch.
Here is the schematic.
Colin?
K6JTH
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Re: Bypass for ATU-100 with only one button?
The ATU-100 has non-latching relays. It should reset to a pass through configuration when off but I haven’t tested mine.?
The bypass switch is momentary contact. The display shows when you are in tuning mode or bypass mode.?
Colin K6JTH?
On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 11:38 AM Joe - KF7MIX < joe@...> wrote:
I readily admit that I'm very much an amateur when it comes to
schematics, so forgive me one more question:
I notice that if I listen to a band with the ATU-100 in-line but
powered off, the RX seems to be just as good as if I connect my
antenna directly to the radio. Why is this? Is there danger in
transmitting if the ATU-100 is powered off? Thanks for any details
you can provide,
73, Joe KF7MIX
On 5/23/22 20:09, Joe - KF7MIX wrote:
Excellent, thank you! I'll get in there and see if I can find that
pad. In the schematic, is that a toggle switch? I can't find the
schematic symbol online... is it saying that I'd switch that pad
to ground to enable bypass (versus a momentary pushbutton)?
Again, thanks,
73, Joe KF7MIX
On 5/23/22 18:20, Colin Kaminski
wrote:
Hi Joe,
I have the button but when I was making it I just
soldered a wire to the pad marked RB2. It is close to the
processor chip on the side of the board close to the
controls. I am pretty sure I just ground it with the switch.
Here is the schematic.
Colin?
K6JTH
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Re: Bypass for ATU-100 with only one button?
I readily admit that I'm very much an amateur when it comes to
schematics, so forgive me one more question:
I notice that if I listen to a band with the ATU-100 in-line but
powered off, the RX seems to be just as good as if I connect my
antenna directly to the radio. Why is this? Is there danger in
transmitting if the ATU-100 is powered off? Thanks for any details
you can provide,
73, Joe KF7MIX
On 5/23/22 20:09, Joe - KF7MIX wrote:
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Excellent, thank you! I'll get in there and see if I can find that
pad. In the schematic, is that a toggle switch? I can't find the
schematic symbol online... is it saying that I'd switch that pad
to ground to enable bypass (versus a momentary pushbutton)?
Again, thanks,
73, Joe KF7MIX
On 5/23/22 18:20, Colin Kaminski
wrote:
Hi Joe,
I have the button but when I was making it I just
soldered a wire to the pad marked RB2. It is close to the
processor chip on the side of the board close to the
controls. I am pretty sure I just ground it with the switch.
Here is the schematic.
Colin?
K6JTH
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Re: Bypass for ATU-100 with only one button?
Excellent, thank you! I'll get in there and see if I can find that
pad. In the schematic, is that a toggle switch? I can't find the
schematic symbol online... is it saying that I'd switch that pad to
ground to enable bypass (versus a momentary pushbutton)?
Again, thanks,
73, Joe KF7MIX
On 5/23/22 18:20, Colin Kaminski wrote:
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Show quoted text
Hi Joe,
I have the button but when I was making it I just soldered
a wire to the pad marked RB2. It is close to the processor
chip on the side of the board close to the controls. I am
pretty sure I just ground it with the switch. Here is the
schematic.
Colin?
K6JTH
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Re: How far can the OLED screen and buttons be from the ATU itself ?
Thank you all for your replies, that's quite easy when you have the solution given to you!
73,
Yannig F4IUJ
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Re: Bypass for ATU-100 with only one button?
Hi Joe,
I have the button but when I was making it I just soldered a wire to the pad marked RB2. It is close to the processor chip on the side of the board close to the controls. I am pretty sure I just ground it with the switch. Here is the schematic.
Colin? K6JTH
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Bypass for ATU-100 with only one button?
Greetings all. I have a question, about an ATU-100 (pre-built Chinese version... I had to solder on new SO-239s, the ones it came with were horrible):
This version of the hardware only has one button connected, which is labeled "TUNE". It works for the TUNE and RESET functions, with long and short press. I'm testing it on both a G90 and an FTDX10, both of which have internal tuners (the G90's internal tuner seems to work quite well, but the FTDX10's internal tuner won't tune up on anything higher than 20m for me.)
On the FTDX10, I really only want to use this for rare occasions when I need 17m,15m,12m, or 10m. For 80m/40m/30m/20m, the internal tuner works fine. However, this tuner has no "Bypass" button. Should I disconnect this little tuner when I'm not using it? Or do these types fallback into a bypass mode when powered off?
Thanks for any tips or info.
73, Joe KF7MIX
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Re: Relay test on locked atu-100 commercial kit?
i think it is - press all three buttons together.
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Howard,
That would be great!? I will do some googling and hopefully find the right combination of presses.?
73
Mark
AJ6CU
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There are 256 bytes of EEPROM. You would need to have a frequency counter and make a lookup table. It’s not much room.?
Colin K6JTH?
What would it take to convert the ATU100 to include memory. That way the TX has a better time each time you change bands.
Has any one tried this.
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Colin Kaminski