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Burt N Sammis All Messages By This Member #37712 I have a laptop and desktop sitting side by side both running APRSISCE.? Both are configured the same. You would think both computers would show the same.? NO. Laptop has a white screen with a full length scroller on the left side of screen.? Map does not have any relief nor roads shown.? Objects (call signs, house, derrick, car, etc) are shown on both. Desktop has relief and roads shown with a small scroller in the upper left corner of the screen with only 6 lines? scrolling at a time. Any ideas? Burt AF5AA
Ben Miller All Messages By This Member #37713 Stretch the screen horizontally and at some point the scroller will become full height. Pess the right arrow button repeatedly and the map details will get darker. At each setting you get one with grid squares and one without them. Ben Miller, PE retired KD9BBB 708-431-7875 bmilleng@... toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 4:46?PM Burt N Sammis via <kango03=[email protected]> wrote: I have a laptop and desktop sitting side by side both running APRSISCE.? Both are configured the same. You would think both computers would show the same.? NO. Laptop has a white screen with a full length scroller on the left side of screen.? Map does not have any relief nor roads shown.? Objects (call signs, house, derrick, car, etc) are shown on both. Desktop has relief and roads shown with a small scroller in the upper left corner of the screen with only 6 lines? scrolling at a time. Any ideas? Burt AF5AA
Burt N Sammis All Messages By This Member #37714 开云体育 Thanks Ben for the info. Stretching the screen worked for the desktop in getting the scroller enlarged. However, clicking on the left and right arrors did nothing for getting the correct screen on the laptop. I had already done the arror bit.? That is how I managed to get the white screen.? I had a dark grey with just my position on it. Still looking for a solution. Burt AF5AA? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Ben Miller <bmilleng@...> Sent:?Saturday, April 27, 2024 5:20 PM To:[email protected] <[email protected]> Subject:?Re: [APRSISCE] SCREEN ? Stretch the screen horizontally and at some point the scroller will become full height. Pess the right arrow button repeatedly and the map details will get darker. At each setting you get one with grid squares and one without them. Ben Miller, PE retired KD9BBB 708-431-7875 bmilleng@... On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 4:46?PM Burt N Sammis via ?<kango03=[email protected]> wrote: I have a laptop and desktop sitting side by side both running APRSISCE.? Both are configured the same. You would think both computers would show the same.? NO. Laptop has a white screen with a full length scroller on the left side of screen.? Map does not have any relief nor roads shown.? Objects (call signs, house, derrick, car, etc) are shown on both. Desktop has relief and roads shown with a small scroller in the upper left corner of the screen with only 6 lines? scrolling at a time. Any ideas? Burt AF5AA
Burt N Sammis All Messages By This Member #37715 开云体育 Thanks Ben for the info. Stretching the screen worked for the desktop in getting the scroller enlarged. However, clicking on the left and right arrors did nothing for getting the correct screen on the laptop. I had already done the arror bit.? That is how I managed to get the white screen.? I had a dark grey with just my position on it. Still looking for a solution. Burt AF5AA? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Ben Miller <bmilleng@...> Sent:?Saturday, April 27, 2024 5:20 PM To:[email protected] <[email protected]> Subject:?Re: [APRSISCE] SCREEN ? Stretch the screen horizontally and at some point the scroller will become full height. Pess the right arrow button repeatedly and the map details will get darker. At each setting you get one with grid squares and one without them. Ben Miller, PE retired KD9BBB 708-431-7875 bmilleng@... On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 4:46?PM Burt N Sammis via ?<kango03=[email protected]> wrote: I have a laptop and desktop sitting side by side both running APRSISCE.? Both are configured the same. You would think both computers would show the same.? NO. Laptop has a white screen with a full length scroller on the left side of screen.? Map does not have any relief nor roads shown.? Objects (call signs, house, derrick, car, etc) are shown on both. Desktop has relief and roads shown with a small scroller in the upper left corner of the screen with only 6 lines? scrolling at a time. Any ideas? Burt AF5AA
James Ewen All Messages By This Member #37716 Burt, What you are telling us is that you have two instances of APRSISCE/32 running with different configurations.? Your screen sizes are different causing different layouts to be used, and it sounds like you may be using different maps, or as previously suggested, you may just have the opacity turned waaaay down on the laptop making your maps invisible. ? Hard to say without seeing exactly what you are seeing. ? You can set up two machines identically, with one looking at Miami and drag the map away on the other one to look at Los Angeles. Both are “set up identically”, but the maps will look drastically different, showing different information.? You have changed the viewing parameters on one machine to make them different from the other machine, hence the displays looking different even if they are showing the same physical?location.? James VE6SRV toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 15:46 Burt N Sammis via <kango03=[email protected]> wrote: I have a laptop and desktop sitting side by side both running APRSISCE.? Both are configured the same. You would think both computers would show the same.? NO. Laptop has a white screen with a full length scroller on the left side of screen.? Map does not have any relief nor roads shown.? Objects (call signs, house, derrick, car, etc) are shown on both. Desktop has relief and roads shown with a small scroller in the upper left corner of the screen with only 6 lines? scrolling at a time. Any ideas? Burt AF5AA
Rob Giuliano All Messages By This Member #37717 If you are running 2 instances ... When running 2 instance of APRSIS32, you MUST make sure there are 2 XML files (one for each instance).? In order to do that, you must have 2 "working directories (folders)". If you don't, the XML will contain the contents used by the last instance you close (it overwrites the XML on close. Easiest way is to have 2 APRSIS32 folder.? In my example, I will use: ??? APRSIS32????????=> APRSIS32.exe, OSMTiles map folder, and APRSIS32.xml ??? APRSIS32_1????=> shortcut to ..\APRSIS32\APRSIS32.exe, and the second APRSIS32.xml Example: ??? C:\APRS\APRSIS32 ??????????? APRSIS32.exe ????????????OSMTiles ????????????APRSIS32.xml ??? C:\APRS\APRSIS32_1 ??????? shortcut with settings of: ??????????? Target ?????? C:\APRS\APRSIS32\APRSIS32 ??????????? Start In:???? C:\APRS\APRSIS32_1 ??????? APRSIS32.xml??????? => key settings: ????????????<OSM.Path>C:/APRS/APRSIS32/OSMTiles/</OSM.Path> ????????????<Path>.C:/APRS/APRSIS32/OSMTiles/</Path> ??????????? This allows only 1 copy of map tiles and 1 copy of APRSIS32.exe (easier to keep up to date). You could move the map tiles out a folder (as I typically do).? Then the structure? would look like this: ??? C:\APRS\APRSIS32 ??? C:\APRS\APRSIS32_1 ??? C:\APRS\OSMTiles??????????????? The XML files (both) would have to be altered to point here Robert Giuliano KB8RCO _._,_
James Ewen All Messages By This Member #37718 Burt is pretty much guaranteed to have two XML?files in different directories as the instances are on two different computers.? James VE6SRV toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 21:50 Rob Giuliano via <kb8rco=[email protected]> wrote: If you are running 2 instances ... When running 2 instance of APRSIS32, you MUST make sure there are 2 XML files (one for each instance).? In order to do that, you must have 2 "working directories (folders)". If you don't, the XML will contain the contents used by the last instance you close (it overwrites the XML on close. Easiest way is to have 2 APRSIS32 folder.? In my example, I will use: ??? APRSIS32????????=> APRSIS32.exe, OSMTiles map folder, and APRSIS32.xml ??? APRSIS32_1????=> shortcut to ..\APRSIS32\APRSIS32.exe, and the second APRSIS32.xml Example: ??? C:\APRS\APRSIS32 ??????????? APRSIS32.exe ????????????OSMTiles ????????????APRSIS32.xml ??? C:\APRS\APRSIS32_1 ??????? shortcut with settings of: ??????????? Target ?????? C:\APRS\APRSIS32\APRSIS32 ??????????? Start In:???? C:\APRS\APRSIS32_1 ??????? APRSIS32.xml??????? => key settings: ????????????<OSM.Path>C:/APRS/APRSIS32/OSMTiles/</OSM.Path> ????????????<Path>.C:/APRS/APRSIS32/OSMTiles/</Path> ??????????? This allows only 1 copy of map tiles and 1 copy of APRSIS32.exe (easier to keep up to date). You could move the map tiles out a folder (as I typically do).? Then the structure? would look like this: ??? C:\APRS\APRSIS32 ??? C:\APRS\APRSIS32_1 ??? C:\APRS\OSMTiles??????????????? The XML files (both) would have to be altered to point here Robert Giuliano KB8RCO _._,_
Ben Miller All Messages By This Member #37719 This may be a dumb question, could you be zoomed in so far that there are no map details to see? Try zooming out just to be sure. If not, then it sounds like the software is not loading map tiles, but offhand I am not sure why. Are you on an active Internet connection? Ben Miller, PE retired KD9BBB 708-431-7875 bmilleng@... toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 6:21?PM Burt N Sammis via <kango03=[email protected]> wrote: Thanks Ben for the info. Stretching the screen worked for the desktop in getting the scroller enlarged. However, clicking on the left and right arrors did nothing for getting the correct screen on the laptop. I had already done the arror bit.? That is how I managed to get the white screen.? I had a dark grey with just my position on it. Still looking for a solution. Burt AF5AA? From:?[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Ben Miller <bmilleng@...> Sent:?Saturday, April 27, 2024 5:20 PM To:?[email protected] <[email protected]> Subject:?Re: [APRSISCE] SCREEN ? Stretch the screen horizontally and at some point the scroller will become full height. Pess the right arrow button repeatedly and the map details will get darker. At each setting you get one with grid squares and one without them. Ben Miller, PE retired KD9BBB 708-431-7875 bmilleng@... On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 4:46?PM Burt N Sammis via ?<kango03=[email protected]> wrote: I have a laptop and desktop sitting side by side both running APRSISCE.? Both are configured the same. You would think both computers would show the same.? NO. Laptop has a white screen with a full length scroller on the left side of screen.? Map does not have any relief nor roads shown.? Objects (call signs, house, derrick, car, etc) are shown on both. Desktop has relief and roads shown with a small scroller in the upper left corner of the screen with only 6 lines? scrolling at a time. Any ideas? Burt AF5AA
Burt N Sammis All Messages By This Member #37721 开云体育 Thanks Robert for your response. I am not running two APRSISCE just for the sake of running them. With the desktop running correctly, I wanted to set the laptop to get the same results.? I did that with the exception on the laptop of the white screen devoid of relief, roads and towns.? The call signs and objects are the same on both computers.? Scrolling is the same.? The laptop has great amount of memory remaining. My intention is to have APRSISCE on the laptop running 24/7.? Burt AF5AA toggle quoted message Show quoted text From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...> Sent:?Saturday, April 27, 2024 10:50 PM To:[email protected] <[email protected]> Subject:?Re: [APRSISCE] SCREEN ? If you are running 2 instances ... When running 2 instance of APRSIS32, you MUST make sure there are 2 XML files (one for each instance).? In order to do that, you must have 2 "working directories (folders)". If you don't, the XML will contain the contents used by the last instance you close (it overwrites the XML on close. Easiest way is to have 2 APRSIS32 folder.? In my example, I will use: ??? APRSIS32????????=> APRSIS32.exe, OSMTiles map folder, and APRSIS32.xml ??? APRSIS32_1????=> shortcut to ..\APRSIS32\APRSIS32.exe, and the second APRSIS32.xml Example: ??? C:\APRS\APRSIS32 ??????????? APRSIS32.exe ??????????? OSMTiles ??????????? APRSIS32.xml ??? C:\APRS\APRSIS32_1 ??????? shortcut with settings of: ??????????? Target ?????? C:\APRS\APRSIS32\APRSIS32 ??????????? Start In:???? C:\APRS\APRSIS32_1 ??????? APRSIS32.xml??????? => key settings: ????????????<OSM.Path>C:/APRS/APRSIS32/OSMTiles/</OSM.Path> ??????????? <Path>.C:/APRS/APRSIS32/OSMTiles/</Path> ??????????? This allows only 1 copy of map tiles and 1 copy of APRSIS32.exe (easier to keep up to date). You could move the map tiles out a folder (as I typically do).? Then the structure? would look like this: ??? C:\APRS\APRSIS32 ??? C:\APRS\APRSIS32_1 ??? C:\APRS\OSMTiles??????????????? The XML files (both) would have to be altered to point here Robert Giuliano KB8RCO _._,_
Rob Giuliano All Messages By This Member #37722 Did you get it working the way you expected? I missed the beginning post about 2 computers - was ion spam. Looking back, I see posts about pressing the right arrow to increase map detail and zoom level. If you are seeing the same icons without map detail, then the zoom level should be the same. ?? Quickest check is the bottom left corner should have a number that shows the circle diameter in units you are using. ?? If they are the same (or even close), then the map circle is the same size (left and right may be different due to window size). ? More likely the map detail, or map internet access. If you are still having issue, you could backup the XML files and swap them between computers. See if the issue stays with the computer or XML.? Then compare the 2 files. Robert Giuliano KB8RCO PS: Great thing about laptops is that (if you have a good battery), they have built in battery backup! On Sunday, April 28, 2024 at 10:31:41 AM EDT, Burt N Sammis <kango03@...> wrote: Thanks Robert for your response. I am not running two APRSISCE just for the sake of running them. With the desktop running correctly, I wanted to set the laptop to get the same results.? I did that with the exception on the laptop of the white screen devoid of relief, roads and towns.? The call signs and objects are the same on both computers.? Scrolling is the same.? The laptop has great amount of memory remaining. My intention is to have APRSISCE on the laptop running 24/7.? Burt AF5AA toggle quoted message Show quoted text From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...> Sent:?Saturday, April 27, 2024 10:50 PM To:[email protected] <[email protected]> Subject:?Re: [APRSISCE] SCREEN ? If you are running 2 instances ... When running 2 instance of APRSIS32, you MUST make sure there are 2 XML files (one for each instance).? In order to do that, you must have 2 "working directories (folders)". If you don't, the XML will contain the contents used by the last instance you close (it overwrites the XML on close. Easiest way is to have 2 APRSIS32 folder.? In my example, I will use: ??? APRSIS32????????=> APRSIS32.exe, OSMTiles map folder, and APRSIS32.xml ??? APRSIS32_1????=> shortcut to ..\APRSIS32\APRSIS32.exe, and the second APRSIS32.xml Example: ??? C:\APRS\APRSIS32 ??????????? APRSIS32.exe ??????????? OSMTiles ??????????? APRSIS32.xml ??? C:\APRS\APRSIS32_1 ??????? shortcut with settings of: ??????????? Target ?????? C:\APRS\APRSIS32\APRSIS32 ??????????? Start In:???? C:\APRS\APRSIS32_1 ??????? APRSIS32.xml??????? => key settings: ????????????<OSM.Path>C:/APRS/APRSIS32/OSMTiles/</OSM.Path> ??????????? <Path>.C:/APRS/APRSIS32/OSMTiles/</Path> ??????????? This allows only 1 copy of map tiles and 1 copy of APRSIS32.exe (easier to keep up to date). You could move the map tiles out a folder (as I typically do).? Then the structure? would look like this: ??? C:\APRS\APRSIS32 ??? C:\APRS\APRSIS32_1 ??? C:\APRS\OSMTiles??????????????? The XML files (both) would have to be altered to point here Robert Giuliano KB8RCO _._,_
Burt N Sammis All Messages By This Member #37723 开云体育 The laptop is a 19 inch screen with the number being 39.0. Desktop is a 22 inch screen with number being 32.5. I am not a computer geek to mess with XML files. I may swap applications and let the desktop run the program and use the laptop for something else.? Burt toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2024 10:08 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] SCREEN ? Did you get it working the way you expected? I missed the beginning post about 2 computers - was ion spam. Looking back, I see posts about pressing the right arrow to increase map detail and zoom level. If you are seeing the same icons without map detail, then the zoom level should be the same. ?? Quickest check is the bottom left corner should have a number that shows the circle diameter in units you are using. ?? If they are the same (or even close), then the map circle is the same size (left and right may be different due to window size). ? More likely the map detail, or map internet access. If you are still having issue, you could backup the XML files and swap them between computers. See if the issue stays with the computer or XML.? Then compare the 2 files. Robert Giuliano KB8RCO PS: Great thing about laptops is that (if you have a good battery), they have built in battery backup! On Sunday, April 28, 2024 at 10:31:41 AM EDT, Burt N Sammis <kango03@...> wrote: Thanks Robert for your response. I am not running two APRSISCE just for the sake of running them. With the desktop running correctly, I wanted to set the laptop to get the same results.? I did that with the exception on the laptop of the white screen devoid of relief, roads and towns.? The call signs and objects are the same on both computers.? Scrolling is the same.? The laptop has great amount of memory remaining. My intention is to have APRSISCE on the laptop running 24/7.? Burt AF5AA From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...> Sent:?Saturday, April 27, 2024 10:50 PM To:[email protected] <[email protected]> Subject:?Re: [APRSISCE] SCREEN ? If you are running 2 instances ... When running 2 instance of APRSIS32, you MUST make sure there are 2 XML files (one for each instance).? In order to do that, you must have 2 "working directories (folders)". If you don't, the XML will contain the contents used by the last instance you close (it overwrites the XML on close. Easiest way is to have 2 APRSIS32 folder.? In my example, I will use: ??? APRSIS32????????=> APRSIS32.exe, OSMTiles map folder, and APRSIS32.xml ??? APRSIS32_1????=> shortcut to ..\APRSIS32\APRSIS32.exe, and the second APRSIS32.xml Example: ??? C:\APRS\APRSIS32 ??????????? APRSIS32.exe ??????????? OSMTiles ??????????? APRSIS32.xml ??? C:\APRS\APRSIS32_1 ??????? shortcut with settings of: ??????????? Target ?????? C:\APRS\APRSIS32\APRSIS32 ??????????? Start In:???? C:\APRS\APRSIS32_1 ??????? APRSIS32.xml??????? => key settings: ????????????<OSM.Path>C:/APRS/APRSIS32/OSMTiles/</OSM.Path> ??????????? <Path>.C:/APRS/APRSIS32/OSMTiles/</Path> ??????????? This allows only 1 copy of map tiles and 1 copy of APRSIS32.exe (easier to keep up to date). You could move the map tiles out a folder (as I typically do).? Then the structure? would look like this: ??? C:\APRS\APRSIS32 ??? C:\APRS\APRSIS32_1 ??? C:\APRS\OSMTiles??????????????? The XML files (both) would have to be altered to point here Robert Giuliano KB8RCO _._,_
Rob Giuliano All Messages By This Member #37724 If you have a thumb drive, you can test the different xml files quite easy: 1. Make sure APRSIS32 is not "full screen" and close the program on each computer. 2. Put the thumb drive in the desktop computer and create 2 folders? ???? DC (for desktop Computer) ???? LC (for Laptop Computer) 3. With the thumb drive in the desktop computer, copy the file (APRSIS32.xlm) from the APRSIS32 folder on the desktop to the thumb drive DC folder. 4. Move the thumb drive to the laptop computer and copy the file (APRSIS32.xlm) from the APRSIS32 folder on the laptop to the thumb drive LC folder. 5. Copy the file (APRSIS32.xlm - overwrite) from the thumb drive DC folder to the APRSIS32 folder on the laptop. 6. Move the thumb drive back to the desktop computer 7. Copy the file (APRSIS32.xlm - overwrite) from the thumb drive LC folder to the APRSIS32 folder. on the desktop. ??? If you want to put it back as it was: 8. With the thumb drive still in the desktop computer ??? Copy the file (APRSIS32.xlm - overwrite) from the thumb drive DC folder to the APRSIS32 folder on the desktop. ??? It is now the way it was. 9. Move the thumb drive back to laptop ??? Copy the file (APRSIS32.xlm - overwrite) from the thumb drive LC folder to the APRSIS32 folder on the laptop. ??? It is now the way it was. Robert Giuliano KB8RCO On Sunday, April 28, 2024 at 11:48:01 AM EDT, Burt N Sammis <kango03@...> wrote: The laptop is a 19 inch screen with the number being 39.0. Desktop is a 22 inch screen with number being 32.5. I am not a computer geek to mess with XML files. I may swap applications and let the desktop run the program and use the laptop for something else.? Burt toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2024 10:08 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] SCREEN ? Did you get it working the way you expected? I missed the beginning post about 2 computers - was ion spam. Looking back, I see posts about pressing the right arrow to increase map detail and zoom level. If you are seeing the same icons without map detail, then the zoom level should be the same. ?? Quickest check is the bottom left corner should have a number that shows the circle diameter in units you are using. ?? If they are the same (or even close), then the map circle is the same size (left and right may be different due to window size). ? More likely the map detail, or map internet access. If you are still having issue, you could backup the XML files and swap them between computers. See if the issue stays with the computer or XML.? Then compare the 2 files. Robert Giuliano KB8RCO PS: Great thing about laptops is that (if you have a good battery), they have built in battery backup! On Sunday, April 28, 2024 at 10:31:41 AM EDT, Burt N Sammis <kango03@...> wrote: Thanks Robert for your response. I am not running two APRSISCE just for the sake of running them. With the desktop running correctly, I wanted to set the laptop to get the same results.? I did that with the exception on the laptop of the white screen devoid of relief, roads and towns.? The call signs and objects are the same on both computers.? Scrolling is the same.? The laptop has great amount of memory remaining. My intention is to have APRSISCE on the laptop running 24/7.? Burt AF5AA From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...> Sent:?Saturday, April 27, 2024 10:50 PM To:[email protected] <[email protected]> Subject:?Re: [APRSISCE] SCREEN ? If you are running 2 instances ... When running 2 instance of APRSIS32, you MUST make sure there are 2 XML files (one for each instance).? In order to do that, you must have 2 "working directories (folders)". If you don't, the XML will contain the contents used by the last instance you close (it overwrites the XML on close. Easiest way is to have 2 APRSIS32 folder.? In my example, I will use: ??? APRSIS32????????=> APRSIS32.exe, OSMTiles map folder, and APRSIS32.xml ??? APRSIS32_1????=> shortcut to ..\APRSIS32\APRSIS32.exe, and the second APRSIS32.xml Example: ??? C:\APRS\APRSIS32 ??????????? APRSIS32.exe ??????????? OSMTiles ??????????? APRSIS32.xml ??? C:\APRS\APRSIS32_1 ??????? shortcut with settings of: ??????????? Target ?????? C:\APRS\APRSIS32\APRSIS32 ??????????? Start In:???? C:\APRS\APRSIS32_1 ??????? APRSIS32.xml??????? => key settings: ????????????<OSM.Path>C:/APRS/APRSIS32/OSMTiles/</OSM.Path> ??????????? <Path>.C:/APRS/APRSIS32/OSMTiles/</Path> ??????????? This allows only 1 copy of map tiles and 1 copy of APRSIS32.exe (easier to keep up to date). You could move the map tiles out a folder (as I typically do).? Then the structure? would look like this: ??? C:\APRS\APRSIS32 ??? C:\APRS\APRSIS32_1 ??? C:\APRS\OSMTiles??????????????? The XML files (both) would have to be altered to point here Robert Giuliano KB8RCO _._,_

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