I was part of the old group at Yahoo and would like to join the discussion with the new edition. ? Mike in Calgary ? “The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why.” Mark Twain ?
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Sign me up, please Pat Murphy
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This site has been pretty much been deactivated and we are now at another site. ?Please join us there.?
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Thanks Thom. shared to Online IntergroupAA and Technology In AA forums. bear
Thank you ? I just read about hackers breaking into AA zoom mtgs.? ?
This is the permanent link to a zoom security guide I wrote that is going to be sent out by the GSC Communications Committee. It works and it works really well so if you're running a Zoom meeting or know someone that is and needs to lock it down from hackers and trolls, this guide is the one to use.
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Thanks Thom. shared to Online IntergroupAA and Technology In AA forums. bear
Thank you ? I just read about hackers breaking into AA zoom mtgs.? ?
This is the permanent link to a zoom security guide I wrote that is going to be sent out by the GSC Communications Committee. It works and it works really well so if you're running a Zoom meeting or know someone that is and needs to lock it down from hackers and trolls, this guide is the one to use.
Best,?
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Thank you ? I just read about hackers breaking into AA zoom mtgs.?
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On Mar 31, 2020, at 12:34 AM, Thom R. <thombone@...> wrote:
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This is the permanent link to a zoom security guide I wrote that is going to be sent out by the GSC Communications Committee. It works and it works really well so if you're running a Zoom meeting or know someone that is and needs to lock it down from hackers and trolls, this guide is the one to use.
Best,?
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Zoom meeting security guide that works
This is the permanent link to a zoom security guide I wrote that is going to be sent out by the GSC Communications Committee. It works and it works really well so if you're running a Zoom meeting or know someone that is and needs to lock it down from hackers and trolls, this guide is the one to use.
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Ooops ?I totally messed up and sent before I corrected it ? I meant to let people know of the new group and its location. ?
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On Mar 30, 2020, at 7:50 PM, Gene <califxr650l@...> wrote:
?We have all moved to? The yahoo group will still Send emails but it doesnt store no data whatsoever. ? Eugene L.? Redondo Beach ? Ca On Mar 23, 2020, at 6:21 PMEugene Lane _._,_._,_
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Jim We have all moved to? The yahoo group will still Send emails but it doesnt store no data whatsoever. ? Eugene L.? Redondo Beach ? Ca
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On Mar 23, 2020, at 6:21 PM, Jim <jimincancun@...> wrote:
? I suggest Chapter 18"To Wives"--page 347 of "Writing the Big Book: The Creation of AA," by Bill Shaberg. Marie is mentioned on page 350
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jim There is a Bio for Marie Brae on Silkworth.net and it has a statement that struck me. It says their is evidence in the Akron Archive that Marie ‘may have written the first draft of To Wives’ which Bill then edited.? Is this true, or not true. If it is true can it be published so the record is straight. Current Lore says Bill wrote it.? My thought has been he may have wrote it but we dont the circumstances. Who might have helped him, where got his sources etc. if there is evidence about the writing of To Wives Id like to read it.
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Thank you so much for sharing this wonderful book. I appreciate and value your enthusiasm and all the time and effort that has gone into this project!
Peace,
Frank F.
On Mar 25, 2020, 2:46 AM -0500, Gene <califxr650l@...>, wrote:
This one worked for me! ;)
On Mar 24, 2020, at 7:30 PM, Bob S <rstonebraker212@...> wrote:
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Pre-AA history Book 93 pages (Extended version)
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Links for two Pre-AA history books, by yours truly. The early pages of the 93-page book are similar to earlier one, however, its appendix pages contain short bios of ?Rowland Hazard, Ebby Thacher, Bill Wilson and Dr. Bob.? This larger version is not in print.
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Pre-AA History Book 43-pages
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Gene, Thanks for letting me know! ? Please try this link: ? Pre-AA history Book 93 pages (Extended version) ? It opens for me. ? Bob S ? *** ? ? ? ? ? u ? ? When I click on the 93 page link Im getting a message that says its not available. :(? ? ? Links for two Pre-AA history books, by yours truly. The early pages of the 93-page book are similar to earlier one, however, its appendix pages contain short bios of ?Rowland Hazard, Ebby Thacher, Bill Wilson and Dr. Bob.? This larger version is not in print. ? Pre-AA History Book 43-pages ? Pre-AA History Book 93-pages (Extended version) ? In our history lies our hope. ? Bob S ?
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Re: Animated short film I'm working on about Early AA History.
This is great Bob! Thanks so much! Can't wait to see the finished product! -Mike
On Tuesday, March 24, 2020, 07:30:37 PM EDT, Bob S <rstonebraker212@...> wrote:
? ? Oh yes! This is fast moving (never a dull moment), educational, factual and quite entertaining. Can’t wait to see the rest, when finished. ? Thank you, Clayton! ? Bob S **** ?
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Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Animated short film I'm working on about Early AA History. ? Here's the first half, with some missing music and sound effects.
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Re: Animated short film I'm working on about Early AA History.
?I got from the 93 page Pre History you sent out in the section. ?The Round Table of AA History by Nancy O. I see the confusion now. ?When she wrote this apparently it wasnt clear at that time which version is correct.?
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On Mar 24, 2020, at 8:04 PM, Bob S <rstonebraker212@...> wrote:
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Question:? “I heard that Rowland left Jung to go back to America but started drinking in Paris. Is this true or was I told wrong? Did he even make it back to America or did he turn around in Paris?”? Gene * I think the answer can be found in the attached article by Cora Finch on ?Pages 17 and 18 tells us that Roland was with his wife. Here is a quote from those pages: ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? “By 17 April 1926, Rowland and Helen were on a steamer bound for Europe. After short stops in London, Paris and Brussels, they arrived in Zurich 6 May. A letter from Rowland to Leonard, dated only "May 15,"30 is written on the stationary of the Dolder Grand Hotel of Zurich. Details in that letter match closely those of a letter from Jung to Leonard dated May 16th, 1926 ("Hazard and his wife are here").31 Both letters indicate that Rowland had begun work with Jung, and Helen with Jung's assistant, Toni Wolff. “ ? Stellar Fire: Carl Jung, a New England Family, and the Risks of Anecdote, by ?Cora Finch, is a long read, but chock full of interesting information about Rowland Hazard and his fascinating family. ? Bob S ? * ? ? ? ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Clayton Light
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Subject: Re: [AAHistoryLovers] Animated short film I'm working on about Early AA History. ? Great question. I hadn't heard that. Does anyone know? ? Thats very cool!!? Question, I heard that Rowland left Jung to go back to America but started drinking in Paris. Is this true or was I told wrong? Did he even make it back to America or did he turn around in Paris?? ?Here's the first half, with some missing music and sound effects.
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On Mar 24, 2020, at 8:04 PM, Bob S <rstonebraker212@...> wrote:
Bob is this describing his 2nd visit?? ?
Question:? “I heard that Rowland left Jung to go back to America but started drinking in Paris. Is this true or was I told wrong? Did he even make it back to America or did he turn around in Paris?”? Gene * I think the answer can be found in the attached article by Cora Finch on ?Pages 17 and 18 tells us that Roland was with his wife. Here is a quote from those pages: ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? “By 17 April 1926, Rowland and Helen were on a steamer bound for Europe. After short stops in London, Paris and Brussels, they arrived in Zurich 6 May. A letter from Rowland to Leonard, dated only "May 15,"30 is written on the stationary of the Dolder Grand Hotel of Zurich. Details in that letter match closely those of a letter from Jung to Leonard dated May 16th, 1926 ("Hazard and his wife are here").31 Both letters indicate that Rowland had begun work with Jung, and Helen with Jung's assistant, Toni Wolff. “ ? Stellar Fire: Carl Jung, a New England Family, and the Risks of Anecdote, by ?Cora Finch, is a long read, but chock full of interesting information about Rowland Hazard and his fascinating family. ? Bob S ? * ? ? ? ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Clayton Light
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 7:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [AAHistoryLovers] Animated short film I'm working on about Early AA History. ? Great question. I hadn't heard that. Does anyone know? ? Thats very cool!!? Question, I heard that Rowland left Jung to go back to America but started drinking in Paris. Is this true or was I told wrong? Did he even make it back to America or did he turn around in Paris?? ?Here's the first half, with some missing music and sound effects.
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Clayton
Looking forward to the rest of the story!!
Cheers
Brian Edwards
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"He thought that Jung had really gotten under his skin and was going to help him, but something happened to Rowland as soon as he returned to the States—he went right back to drinking." - Ebby Thatcher
So apparently he made it back to the states.
Thanks so much for the great article.
Question:? “I heard that Rowland left Jung to go back to America but started drinking in Paris. Is this true or was I told wrong? Did he even make it back to America or did he turn around in Paris?”? Gene * I think the answer can be found in the attached article by Cora Finch on ?Pages 17 and 18 tells us that Roland was with his wife. Here is a quote from those pages: ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? “By 17 April 1926, Rowland and Helen were on a steamer bound for Europe. After short stops in London, Paris and Brussels, they arrived in Zurich 6 May. A letter from Rowland to Leonard, dated only "May 15,"30 is written on the stationary of the Dolder Grand Hotel of Zurich. Details in that letter match closely those of a letter from Jung to Leonard dated May 16th, 1926 ("Hazard and his wife are here").31 Both letters indicate that Rowland had begun work with Jung, and Helen with Jung's assistant, Toni Wolff. “ ? Stellar Fire: Carl Jung, a New England Family, and the Risks of Anecdote, by ?Cora Finch, is a long read, but chock full of interesting information about Rowland Hazard and his fascinating family. ? Bob S ? * ? ? ? ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Clayton Light
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Subject: Re: [AAHistoryLovers] Animated short film I'm working on about Early AA History. ? Great question. I hadn't heard that. Does anyone know? ? Thats very cool!!? Question, I heard that Rowland left Jung to go back to America but started drinking in Paris. Is this true or was I told wrong? Did he even make it back to America or did he turn around in Paris?? ?Here's the first half, with some missing music and sound effects.
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Jim, The previous link I sent may not open. ? Please try this link: ? Pre-AA history Book 93 pages (Extended version) ? ? Bob S. **** ?
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Subject: Re: [AAHistoryLovers] Pre-AA History Books ? Thanks Bob for the long version. I have read the short version and it is great. ? ? Links for two Pre-AA history books, by yours truly. The early pages of the 93-page book are similar to earlier one, however, its appendix pages contain short bios of ?Rowland Hazard, Ebby Thacher, Bill Wilson and Dr. Bob.? This larger version is not in print. ? Pre-AA History Book 43-pages ? Pre-AA History Book 93-pages (Extended version) ? In our history lies our hope. ? Bob S ?
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Question:? “I heard that Rowland left Jung to go back to America but started drinking in Paris. Is this true or was I told wrong? Did he even make it back to America or did he turn around in Paris?”? Gene * I think the answer can be found in the attached article by Cora Finch on ?Pages 17 and 18 tells us that Roland was with his wife. Here is a quote from those pages: ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? “By 17 April 1926, Rowland and Helen were on a steamer bound for Europe. After short stops in London, Paris and Brussels, they arrived in Zurich 6 May. A letter from Rowland to Leonard, dated only "May 15,"30 is written on the stationary of the Dolder Grand Hotel of Zurich. Details in that letter match closely those of a letter from Jung to Leonard dated May 16th, 1926 ("Hazard and his wife are here").31 Both letters indicate that Rowland had begun work with Jung, and Helen with Jung's assistant, Toni Wolff. “ ? Stellar Fire: Carl Jung, a New England Family, and the Risks of Anecdote, by ?Cora Finch, is a long read, but chock full of interesting information about Rowland Hazard and his fascinating family. ? Bob S ? * ? ? ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Clayton Light
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 7:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [AAHistoryLovers] Animated short film I'm working on about Early AA History. ? Great question. I hadn't heard that. Does anyone know? ? Thats very cool!!? Question, I heard that Rowland left Jung to go back to America but started drinking in Paris. Is this true or was I told wrong? Did he even make it back to America or did he turn around in Paris?? ?Here's the first half, with some missing music and sound effects.
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In one of his inimitable talks, Clancy I. tells the story of Rowland H. when he left Dr. Jung’c psychiatric care. He relayed that Rowland got as far as Paris when someone asked him if “he wanted a drink”. Rowland was an alcoholic and said yes.
Bernadette M. Richmond Hill, Ontario Canada
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 7:54 PM Clayton Light < clayton@...> wrote: Great question. I hadn't heard that. Does anyone know? Clayton
Thats very cool!!? Question, I heard that Rowland left Jung to go back to America but started drinking in Paris. Is this true or was I told wrong? Did he even make it back to America or did he turn around in Paris?? Gene ?Here's the first half, with some missing music and sound effects.
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Gene, Thanks for letting me know! ? Please try this link: ? Pre-AA history Book 93 pages (Extended version) ? It opens for me. ? Bob S ? *** ? ? ? ? ? u ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 8:22 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [AAHistoryLovers] Pre-AA History Books ? When I click on the 93 page link Im getting a message that says its not available. :(? ? ? Links for two Pre-AA history books, by yours truly. The early pages of the 93-page book are similar to earlier one, however, its appendix pages contain short bios of ?Rowland Hazard, Ebby Thacher, Bill Wilson and Dr. Bob.? This larger version is not in print. ? Pre-AA History Book 43-pages ? Pre-AA History Book 93-pages (Extended version) ? In our history lies our hope. ? Bob S ?
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I have posted it here as an attachment. You can download it from here. ?
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