Re: Bill as a "Director" in 1937
Thanks for the correction Bill ? Mike ? Life is not a problem to be solved, but a reality to be experienced ???????????????????????? Soren Kierkegaard ? ? ? ? ?
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Re: Bill as a "Director" in 1937
Arghhh… CORRECTION – CORRECTION – CORRECTION!
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They say the devil is in the details – a truth that I firmly believe in. So… when I woke up this morning and flashed on the idea that I had COMPLETELY misstated an important detail in my original post above, I knew I had to write and admit the error.
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In my statement about Bill’s being a Director in Works Publishing Company, I said:
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“First of all, Bill was never a “director” of Works Publishing. He did own one-third of the stock in that unincorporated company, but the closest he ever came to holding an “official” title was when he signed a loan agreement in December 5, 1938 as the “Secretary & Treasurer” of?The One Hundred Men Corporation. (The company name was not changed to Works Publishing Company until February 14, 1939.)
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While the first part of that paragraph is true (about Bill not being a director of Works Publishing and of his ownership of one-third of the stock), the second part it not accurate. While Bill did sign a loan agreement as “Secretary & Treasurer” in early December of 1938, that loan was made to Honor Dealers (Hank’s business) and not to Works Publishing Company.
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The question of Bill’s relationship to Honor Dealers is a bit complicated and I am not sure that his signature in this “official” capacity as secretary and treasurer reflects titles and positions he actually held in that company or if he was simply doing so to facilitate the smooth processing of the loan application.
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Again… perhaps more will be revealed.
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Re: Bill as a "Director" in 1937
Thanks William...my name is dano
Bk'em Dano
Became...Big Book'em Dano
?After? Engaging and reading emails documents libraries and references and all the great stuff that comes from AA history lovers group 12 and 3 for the last 7 years... And just like some editorials on your book I much agree that what was once thought and exhausted history of AA has b Come to an end.. And then we find a man with your Passion Writing a book about that era and bill w's mindset are what was going? On around him through each chapter of the writing of the big book.. I found it to be refreshing interesting And make a me feel a real sense of the true poetry that the big book is.
?You're authorship to me was like dessert ,for this history lover thank you bill S.
Sincerly Dano. 661802 2065
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If research is allowed to go forward regarding psychedelics it will be interesting to see if the test subjects can remain sober? and if so can they can be happily sober.? It will be interesting to see if they have an entire psychic change and a way to deal with all their problems or if they are more like dry drunks.?
I believe in The Spirituality Of Imperfection Ernie Kurtz contrasts the psychic change caused by exposure to mind-altering substances with psychic change caused by pursuing the AA way of life.?
With legalization of psychedelics preceding apace in the USA I'm sure we will have more complete information emerging eventually. It would have been nice if the information could have emerged in a controlled fashion through careful research in case it is not the panacea that many people apparently believe it is.
I know there was at least one doctor who once believed that alcohol was the panacea for all man's ills and was mistaken. I believe his last name was Smith!?
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Re: Bill as a "Director" in 1937
Thank you, Bill. I just ordered your book. It sounds spectacular and I am looking so forward to reading it. Hopefully Hank will finally get his due. I always felt in my minuscule role of loving AA history that he was shortchanged somewhat. Hope I’m right.?
And yes. I read with quiet interest the input from other devotees of the ‘Greatest Spiritual Movement of the Twentieth Century’.?
Thank you HistoryLovers.com for continuing to Trudge the Road.
Bernadette M., Richmond Hill, Ontario, ???
Bill- Thank you so much for staying involved on "historylovers". Your knowledge of our beginnings is a very rare gift. I seem to use your book, 'Writing the BB' nearly every day to clear up some discussion I have with others in my Group. Thanks again for your gift. Patrick Murphy Cedar Rapids, Ia?
----- Original Message ----- From: william schaberg < bill@...> To: [email protected]Sent: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 16:29:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Bill as a "Director" in 1937
In his April 21, 1937 article “Reclamation of the Alcoholic,” Dr. Silkworth mentions “Case IV” – which is clearly Bill Wilson – and notes that sometime after his recovery “he was given an opportunity and is now a director in a large corporation.” ? Someone asked here recently “Of what corporation was he a director, besides Works Publishing?” ? First of all, Bill was never a “director” of Works Publishing. He did own one-third of the stock in that unincorporated company, but the closest he ever came to holding an “official” title was when he signed a loan agreement in December 5, 1938 as the “Secretary & Treasurer” of The One Hundred Men Corporation. (The company name was not changed to Works Publishing Company until February 14, 1939.) ? Back in March of 1937, Wilson may have been a Director of the Fisk Tire Company although whether this actually happened or not is up for question. All I have been able to find relative to this is Lois’ diary entry for March 11, 1937 which notes that Bill was leaving for Boston that day to see “the chairman of Fisk Tire to be put on the board of directors.” This trip would have been at the behest of a speculative investment firm, Quaw and Foley, where Wilson had started working in January of 1937. (Bill was let go in October after the effects of the March market crash became too severe to be ignored by his employers.) ? NOTE: This means that Wilson was traveling for most of the first 7 or 8 months of 1937 (Lois’s diary explicitly mentions him being six different cities – most of them more than once during that time frame), which means he could not have been home in Brooklyn overseeing the weekly Tuesday meeting or running off to Towns Hospital regularly to recruit new members. ? Perhaps, this position with Fisk is the one that Dr. Silkworth was referring to in his article – although is must be noted that the lead time for writing, submitting, getting acceptance and then publication of an article in a medical journal certainly took more than just a few days or weeks to accomplish – so the timing sounds a little dicey. ? On that same note of “Director,” it may be worth mentioning that by August of 1938, Bill Wilson was in fact the director of the Pierce Governor Company in Anderson, Indiana. However, his being a Director at Pierce provided only “nominal” fees. Two years later, Bill was still receiving correspondence from them in his official capacity as Director. ? And finally, to add to the speculation, Lois mentions that “Tom Pierce came into group [i.e. A.A.] in ’38.” Could he be from the same family that owned the Pierce Governor Company? ? Perhaps more will be revealed. ? Further details and references to the facts noted above can be found in my book, Writing the Big Book: The Creation of A.A. ? Best, ? Bill Bill Schaberg
203-254-2727 ? For my most recent book go to: ? ? We are part of a Mystery we do not understand, and we are grateful. ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? - Brian Doyle ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? One Long River of Song, p. 197 ?
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Re: Bill as a "Director" in 1937
Bill- Thank you so much for staying involved on "historylovers". Your knowledge of our beginnings is a very rare gift. I seem to use your book, 'Writing the BB' nearly every day to clear up some discussion I have with others in my Group. Thanks again for your gift. Patrick Murphy Cedar Rapids, Ia?
----- Original Message ----- From: william schaberg <bill@...> To: [email protected]Sent: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 16:29:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Bill as a "Director" in 1937
In his April 21, 1937 article “Reclamation of the Alcoholic,” Dr. Silkworth mentions “Case IV” – which is clearly Bill Wilson – and notes that sometime after his recovery “he was given an opportunity and is now a director in a large corporation.” ? Someone asked here recently “Of what corporation was he a director, besides Works Publishing?” ? First of all, Bill was never a “director” of Works Publishing. He did own one-third of the stock in that unincorporated company, but the closest he ever came to holding an “official” title was when he signed a loan agreement in December 5, 1938 as the “Secretary & Treasurer” of The One Hundred Men Corporation. (The company name was not changed to Works Publishing Company until February 14, 1939.) ? Back in March of 1937, Wilson may have been a Director of the Fisk Tire Company although whether this actually happened or not is up for question. All I have been able to find relative to this is Lois’ diary entry for March 11, 1937 which notes that Bill was leaving for Boston that day to see “the chairman of Fisk Tire to be put on the board of directors.” This trip would have been at the behest of a speculative investment firm, Quaw and Foley, where Wilson had started working in January of 1937. (Bill was let go in October after the effects of the March market crash became too severe to be ignored by his employers.) ? NOTE: This means that Wilson was traveling for most of the first 7 or 8 months of 1937 (Lois’s diary explicitly mentions him being six different cities – most of them more than once during that time frame), which means he could not have been home in Brooklyn overseeing the weekly Tuesday meeting or running off to Towns Hospital regularly to recruit new members. ? Perhaps, this position with Fisk is the one that Dr. Silkworth was referring to in his article – although is must be noted that the lead time for writing, submitting, getting acceptance and then publication of an article in a medical journal certainly took more than just a few days or weeks to accomplish – so the timing sounds a little dicey. ? On that same note of “Director,” it may be worth mentioning that by August of 1938, Bill Wilson was in fact the director of the Pierce Governor Company in Anderson, Indiana. However, his being a Director at Pierce provided only “nominal” fees. Two years later, Bill was still receiving correspondence from them in his official capacity as Director. ? And finally, to add to the speculation, Lois mentions that “Tom Pierce came into group [i.e. A.A.] in ’38.” Could he be from the same family that owned the Pierce Governor Company? ? Perhaps more will be revealed. ? Further details and references to the facts noted above can be found in my book, Writing the Big Book: The Creation of A.A. ? Best, ? Bill Bill Schaberg 424 Riverside Drive Fairfield, CT 06824 203-254-2727 ? For my most recent book go to: ? ? We are part of a Mystery we do not understand, and we are grateful. ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? - Brian Doyle ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? One Long River of Song, p. 197 ?
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Re: Have we anyone able to evaluate the medical side of Doctor Silkworth's "ultra-modern standards" in his treatment regime as it appears in "Reclamation of the Alcoholic"?
Whilst it it is understandable that you do not want to denigrate the good doctor, what is described here is pure quackery. However we must look at the state of medical knowledge at the time, (The 30s). This was a time when pre-frontal lobotomy for mental disorders was all the rage. This was a procedure that was, by our standards, barbaric in both conception and execution. Medical knowledge had not progressed very far from the Victorians and seems to have operated on “Let’s try this” basis. There were no effective drugs available for psychiatric conditions - the paraldehyde and chloral mentioned in ?AA literature did nothing but anaesthetise the patient, although this was cutting edge stuff to them. Tranquillisers would have to wait until the 50s (Phenothiazines - Thorazine) or the 60s for benzodiazepines (Librium and Valium)? The colloidal gold and iodine are from the Keeley treatment of the late 19th century and there was a whole network of Keeley “clinics” devoted to the cure of alcoholics. These were for the most part ineffective regimes. A full account is in William White’s book “ Slaying the Dragon”. The history of the use and discovery of drugs is one of my interests and this particular Avenue regarding Dr Silkworth is especially interesting as I am able to use my professional knowledge to further the debate.? In conclusion, we should not disparage the good doctor, he was working with what he had, and, believed he was doing the best for his patients. Regards Bob Dunkley MRPharmS Leeds UK
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Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Have we anyone able to evaluate the medical side of Doctor Silkworth's "ultra-modern standards" in his treatment regime as it appears in "Reclamation of the Alcoholic"?? In this thread I would like to leave aside the psychological, Moral Psychology and educational side of his recommended treatment, and focus on the drugs and concoctions, and the physical and surgical procedures he proposed. I have no medical knowledge and would appreciated it if someone with mainstream medical and pharmacological knowledge could evaluate his methods especially in light of medical knowledge at the time.
Excerpts from , Medical Record April 21, 1937
"To relieve the pressure in the brain and spinal cord (unless spinal puncture is contemplated), dehydration must begun at once. Unless contraindicated, we begin with a large dose of physic, preferably a cathartic to be followed by a saline purgative. The chief contraindication is enlargement of the liver. If abdominal distention is present, catharsis must be discarded and high colonic irrigations of warm saline should be substituted. On the next day, if the abdomen is no longer distended, the cathartic can be administered advantageously. In patients who are obtreperous and uncooperative, these warm saline irrigations have a somewhat sedative action. The dehydration is continued for from three to four days, depending on the strength of the patient."
and
Case III (Hospital No. 981). – A young man of twenty-eight had suffered severe attacks of migraine since the age of 14. He had been said to be allergic to many forms of food and had eliminated most type of food as a consequence. He had for some time been using morphine and hyocine for relief of the attacks of pain. For the last few months, he had been living in a room from which all light had been eliminated, believing that was of further benefit to him. His weight was eighty pounds. His mental attitude was one of despair and he had practically lost all interest in the general affairs of life. Following our detoxicating treatment, we decided, along with our usual procedure in such cases9 to try the special colloidal iodine complex and colloidal gold preparation (previously referred to as being appropriate with alcoholics). The result was that in the next two weeks he had gained fourteen pounds, was able to endure his attacks of migraine, which were much milder in character, was eating a mixed diet, moving about daily, and is talking of resuming his studies.
There is much more information in the article which I would love to see evaluated. But I chose to include these two excerpts because the first seems to indicate that the doctor believed in the spinal pressure theory of alcoholism (and the possibility of relief of the condition by puncture). This hypothesis is referred to by Hank Parkhurst in "To Employers". I included the second because in it he refers to the use of colloidal gold which has a long association with medical quackery.
I am not trying to tear down the good doctor. His insight saved countless millions of men and women. I would like to put the non-psychological side of his suggested treatment in perspective however.
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Should say couldnt stay sober until he had aspiritual exp using the Lsd treatment?
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In the DVD documentary Bill W A person is interviewd and he said he could get sober in AA. ?He took LSD, had a spiritual experience and never drank again. He had something like 40 or 50 years sober. ?Watch the movie ?? Gene On Dec 11, 2020, at 9:58 PM, Jeff Johnson <jeffjoh11789@...> wrote:
?Attached is an article written by well known AA historian Erie Kurtz in 1989, and now is part of the William White papers. Here's a quote from the article I found intriguing. "Here,? then,? is? one? clear? reason? why? Bill? Wilson? experimented? with LSD: he? was? seeking? still? further? ways? of? helping? alcoholics, of? helping specifically? those alcoholics who could not seem to attain sobriety in Alcoholics Anonymous because, apparently, they could not “get the spiritual.”? As it relates to Bill's personal experience with LSD, here's a quote from Kurtz. Wilson set forth his thoughts on how LSD might serve spirituality in a 1958? letter to Sam Shoemaker. “[LSD]? seems to have the result of sharply reducing the? forces of the ego,” Bill noted, pointing out the “generally acknowledged fact in spiritual development that ego reduction makes the influx of God's grace possible...[LSD] will never take the place of any of the existing means by which we can reduce the ego, and keep it reduced,”? Bill? acknowledged."
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In the DVD documentary Bill W A person is interviewd and he said he could get sober in AA. ?He took LSD, had a spiritual experience and never drank again. He had something like 40 or 50 years sober. ?Watch the movie ?? Gene
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?Attached is an article written by well known AA historian Erie Kurtz in 1989, and now is part of the William White papers. Here's a quote from the article I found intriguing. "Here,? then,? is? one? clear? reason? why? Bill? Wilson? experimented? with LSD: he? was? seeking? still? further? ways? of? helping? alcoholics, of? helping specifically? those alcoholics who could not seem to attain sobriety in Alcoholics Anonymous because, apparently, they could not “get the spiritual.”? As it relates to Bill's personal experience with LSD, here's a quote from Kurtz. Wilson set forth his thoughts on how LSD might serve spirituality in a 1958? letter to Sam Shoemaker. “[LSD]? seems to have the result of sharply reducing the? forces of the ego,” Bill noted, pointing out the “generally acknowledged fact in spiritual development that ego reduction makes the influx of God's grace possible...[LSD] will never take the place of any of the existing means by which we can reduce the ego, and keep it reduced,”? Bill? acknowledged."
<1989 Bill W takes LSD.pdf>
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Attached is an article written by well known AA historian Erie Kurtz in 1989, and now is part of the William White papers.
Here's a quote from the article I found intriguing.
"Here,? then,? is? one? clear? reason? why? Bill? Wilson? experimented? with LSD: he? was? seeking? still? further? ways? of? helping? alcoholics, of? helping specifically? those alcoholics who could not seem to attain sobriety in Alcoholics Anonymous because, apparently, they could not “get the spiritual.”?
As it relates to Bill's personal experience with LSD, here's a quote from Kurtz.
Wilson set forth his thoughts on how LSD might serve spirituality in a 1958? letter to Sam Shoemaker. “[LSD]? seems to have the result of sharply reducing the? forces of the ego,” Bill noted, pointing out the “generally acknowledged fact in spiritual development that ego reduction makes the influx of God's grace possible...[LSD] will never take the place of any of the existing means by which we can reduce the ego, and keep it reduced,”? Bill? acknowledged."
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Bill as a "Director" in 1937
In his April 21, 1937 article “Reclamation of the Alcoholic,” Dr. Silkworth mentions “Case IV” – which is clearly Bill Wilson – and notes that sometime after his recovery “he was given an opportunity and is now a director in a large corporation.” ? Someone asked here recently “Of what corporation was he a director, besides Works Publishing?” ? First of all, Bill was never a “director” of Works Publishing. He did own one-third of the stock in that unincorporated company, but the closest he ever came to holding an “official” title was when he signed a loan agreement in December 5, 1938 as the “Secretary & Treasurer” of The One Hundred Men Corporation. (The company name was not changed to Works Publishing Company until February 14, 1939.) ? Back in March of 1937, Wilson may have been a Director of the Fisk Tire Company although whether this actually happened or not is up for question. All I have been able to find relative to this is Lois’ diary entry for March 11, 1937 which notes that Bill was leaving for Boston that day to see “the chairman of Fisk Tire to be put on the board of directors.” This trip would have been at the behest of a speculative investment firm, Quaw and Foley, where Wilson had started working in January of 1937. (Bill was let go in October after the effects of the March market crash became too severe to be ignored by his employers.) ? NOTE: This means that Wilson was traveling for most of the first 7 or 8 months of 1937 (Lois’s diary explicitly mentions him being six different cities – most of them more than once during that time frame), which means he could not have been home in Brooklyn overseeing the weekly Tuesday meeting or running off to Towns Hospital regularly to recruit new members. ? Perhaps, this position with Fisk is the one that Dr. Silkworth was referring to in his article – although is must be noted that the lead time for writing, submitting, getting acceptance and then publication of an article in a medical journal certainly took more than just a few days or weeks to accomplish – so the timing sounds a little dicey. ? On that same note of “Director,” it may be worth mentioning that by August of 1938, Bill Wilson was in fact the director of the Pierce Governor Company in Anderson, Indiana. However, his being a Director at Pierce provided only “nominal” fees. Two years later, Bill was still receiving correspondence from them in his official capacity as Director. ? And finally, to add to the speculation, Lois mentions that “Tom Pierce came into group [i.e. A.A.] in ’38.” Could he be from the same family that owned the Pierce Governor Company? ? Perhaps more will be revealed. ? Further details and references to the facts noted above can be found in my book, Writing the Big Book: The Creation of A.A. ? Best, ? Bill Bill Schaberg 424 Riverside Drive Fairfield, CT 06824 203-254-2727 ? For my most recent book go to: ? ? We are part of a Mystery we do not understand, and we are grateful. ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? - Brian Doyle ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? One Long River of Song, p. 197 ?
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I know Bill took LSD out in CA to see if it could enhance or trigger a spiritual experience.
What was his thought on it after his experience? Thumbs up or down?
Thanks,
In love and service.
Doris R.
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Have we anyone able to evaluate the medical side of Doctor Silkworth's "ultra-modern standards" in his treatment regime as it appears in "Reclamation of the Alcoholic"?
In this thread I would like to leave aside the psychological, Moral Psychology and educational side of his recommended treatment, and focus on the drugs and concoctions, and the physical and surgical procedures he proposed. I have no medical knowledge and would appreciated it if someone with mainstream medical and pharmacological knowledge could evaluate his methods especially in light of medical knowledge at the time.
Excerpts from , Medical Record April 21, 1937
"To relieve the pressure in the brain and spinal cord (unless spinal puncture is contemplated), dehydration must begun at once. Unless contraindicated, we begin with a large dose of physic, preferably a cathartic to be followed by a saline purgative. The chief contraindication is enlargement of the liver. If abdominal distention is present, catharsis must be discarded and high colonic irrigations of warm saline should be substituted. On the next day, if the abdomen is no longer distended, the cathartic can be administered advantageously. In patients who are obtreperous and uncooperative, these warm saline irrigations have a somewhat sedative action. The dehydration is continued for from three to four days, depending on the strength of the patient."
and
Case III (Hospital No. 981). – A young man of twenty-eight had suffered severe attacks of migraine since the age of 14. He had been said to be allergic to many forms of food and had eliminated most type of food as a consequence. He had for some time been using morphine and hyocine for relief of the attacks of pain. For the last few months, he had been living in a room from which all light had been eliminated, believing that was of further benefit to him. His weight was eighty pounds. His mental attitude was one of despair and he had practically lost all interest in the general affairs of life. Following our detoxicating treatment, we decided, along with our usual procedure in such cases9 to try the special colloidal iodine complex and colloidal gold preparation (previously referred to as being appropriate with alcoholics). The result was that in the next two weeks he had gained fourteen pounds, was able to endure his attacks of migraine, which were much milder in character, was eating a mixed diet, moving about daily, and is talking of resuming his studies.
There is much more information in the article which I would love to see evaluated. But I chose to include these two excerpts because the first seems to indicate that the doctor believed in the spinal pressure theory of alcoholism (and the possibility of relief of the condition by puncture). This hypothesis is referred to by Hank Parkhurst in "To Employers". I included the second because in it he refers to the use of colloidal gold which has a long association with medical quackery.
I am not trying to tear down the good doctor. His insight saved countless millions of men and women. I would like to put the non-psychological side of his suggested treatment in perspective however.
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Bill W's last drink was this date, 1934
? Bill W took his last drink today, December 11, 1934, ?which became not only a wonderful Christmas Present for him, but for every one of us, as well. ? Merry Christmas! ? Bob S ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??????????????????????????????????????????? -- Bob S
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Re: Case IV (Hospital No. 1152) From Dr. Silkworth's Reclamation of the Alcoholic April 21, 1937 Medical Record
Thank you for this information.? I did not realize this
information existed.
Jim
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Later he was given an
opportunity and is now a director in a large
corporation."
I never knew that Bill
worked at all after the founding of AA.? Of what
corporation was he a director, besides Works
Publishing?
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Wayne T. < wsst1000@...> wrote:
Case IV (Hospital No.
1152). – A broker, who had earned as much as
$25,000 a year, and had come, through alcohol,
to a position where he was being supported by
his wife, presented himself for treatment
carrying with him two books on a philosophy from
which he hoped to get a new inspiration: His
desire to discontinue alcohol was intense, and
he certainly made every effort within his own
capabilities do to so. Following the course of
treatment in which the alcohol and toxic
products were eliminated and his craving
counteracted, he took up moral psychology. At
first, he found it difficult to rehabilitate
himself financially, as his old friends had no
confidence in his future conduct. Later he was
given an opportunity and is now a director in a
large corporation. He gives part of his income
to help others in his former condition, and he
has gathered about him a group of over fifty
men, all free from their former alcoholism
through the application of this method of
treatment and “moral psychology.”
The Doctor's description of Bill in the medical journal,
Medical Record, April 21, 1937.
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Re: Case IV (Hospital No. 1152) From Dr. Silkworth's Reclamation of the Alcoholic April 21, 1937 Medical Record
Of what corporation was he a director, besides Works Publishing?
William Schaberg found that Bill W, Jim Burwell, Earl T and a number of other early AA's were unreliable sources of AA history. Should Dr. Silkworth himself be added to that list?
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Re: Case IV (Hospital No. 1152) From Dr. Silkworth's Reclamation of the Alcoholic April 21, 1937 Medical Record
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Later he was given an opportunity and is now a director in a large corporation."
I never knew that Bill worked at all after the founding of AA.? Of what corporation was he a director, besides Works Publishing?
On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 2:51 PM Wayne T. < wsst1000@...> wrote:
Case IV (Hospital No. 1152). – A broker, who had earned as much as $25,000 a year, and had come, through alcohol, to a position where he was being supported by his wife, presented himself for treatment carrying with him two books on a philosophy from which he hoped to get a new inspiration: His desire to discontinue alcohol was intense, and he certainly made every effort within his own capabilities do to so. Following the course of treatment in which the alcohol and toxic products were eliminated and his craving counteracted, he took up moral psychology. At first, he found it difficult to rehabilitate himself financially, as his old friends had no confidence in his future conduct. Later he was given an opportunity and is now a director in a large corporation. He gives part of his income to help others in his former condition, and he has gathered about him a group of over fifty men, all free from their former alcoholism through the application of this method of treatment and “moral psychology.”
The Doctor's description of Bill in the medical journal, Medical Record, April 21, 1937.
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Re: Case IV (Hospital No. 1152) From Dr. Silkworth's Reclamation of the Alcoholic April 21, 1937 Medical Record
Sermon on the Mount by Emmet Fox was published in 1934. Wonder if it is possibly the 2nd book???
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Re: New York Times December 1903 Articles about Professor Langley (Ref: "We Agnostics" Page 51 paragraph 2)
the next time I'm out will check the sign. also my mistake may be because he was trying to take off and land on a ship. which I'm sure was later than this article yiu are talking about. i will research the Widewater info. thanks for correcting me.
Bob Hickey
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Re: New York Times December 1903 Articles about Professor Langley (Ref: "We Agnostics" Page 51 paragraph 2)
Some of the confusion regarding the location of Professor Langley's heavier than air flights may stem from the fact that he made may attempts to launch his unmaned and man-piloted "aerodrome" from a house boat on the Potomac river. His most successful attempts occurred on May 6 1896 as his house boat 'launching pad' which was anchored near Chopawamsic island (which is?just off shore of the Quantico Marine Corps in?the Potomac River and the only island on the Potomac which is located in Virginia).?In attendance as a scientific observer was Alexander Graham Bell, who stated that "it?seems to me that no one who was present on this interesting occasion could have failed to recognize that the practicality of mechanical flight had been demonstrated.” (Library of Congress).?
As noted by numerous contemporaneous reports, both of Professor Langley's attempts at a man-carrying heavier than air flight took place in 1903 and were unsuccessful. A reporter quoted that the man-piloted aerodrome looked like a "a handful of mortar" as it plunged into the Potomac near Washington DC.
There are several sources which provide a good overview of Professor Langley's years long journey to achieve man-piloted heavier than air flight.?
For anyone interested in this topic, David McCollough's history/biography of the Wright brothers 'first to flight' includes background information on many of the individuals who were pursuing heavier than air flight.
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