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Why is it is referred to as a "Tiffany Signet Ring"? There was certainly no Tiffany's in the woods of Ch?lus, ~570km from the Western Front.

Members of Battery E., The History of Battery E, 66th Artillery C. A. C.: A Collection of Articles Containing the Experiences of a Small Unit While Training for a Great Conflict [1919].

Arrived in Liverpool 8/3/1918 on p.49.

“Battery C” mentioned on p.56.

A visit to Winchester Cathedral mentioned on p.54.

Left Le Havre for Nexon 11/10/1918 on p.60, arrive Nexon 11/12/1918 p.65.

The Armistice was signed 11/11/1918.

This webpage is about the 66th Artillery C.A.C. in NEXON, France:

Ch?lus is a commune in the Haute-Vienne department in the Nouvelle-Aquitaine region in western France. It is near Limoges, France: far from the front, and without any combat fighting. (Ch?lus was so rural, it is now a national park & green zone.) Nexon is a commune in the Haute-Vienne department in the Nouvelle-Aquitaine region in western France. It is a small town near Limoges: far from the front, at every point during the Great War.

Exactly when and where do you imagine Bill Wilson saw combat action?

This details the same Haute-Vienne department but with different dates for Battery C. There was no combat in this area, 1914-1918.
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All,
I have researched and discovered the final resting places of many of the AA and non-AA characters of note in our history.? I am wondering if there might be a place to post that list here?? It is in a Word file right now with relevant data in table form.? The list is based on early rosters of AA's and other information contained in a multitude of books and sources.? I would encourage anyone, upon reviewing the list to suggest others to include, and/or provide information on those I have yet to find.? This may seem an odd path to take in historical research, but it has afforded my wife and I the opportunity to pay our respects, in person, to many of those who came before. Giving them some recognition seems like the least we could do, considering my life, and the life of my wife, were saved by AA.? Please let me know how to get the list out there, if it is so desired.
Brian K
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[Moderator comment: Brian, I have texted you. :) -Thom]

“I was wondering if anyone had done research and had any information on the actual origin of the 4th step format Bill uses in the Big Book?? i.e. including resentments, fears, and sex conduct, and the columnation of the information as it shows in the Mr Brown example.? It would stand to reason it might have an Oxford Group origin, but I have never seen anything this specific when reviewing Oxford Group material.? Any help would be appreciated.”

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“{Bill Schaberg} said that there are no sources for that {1939} format that he is aware of. Years ago I was in contact with Mel B., the AA historian, and he gave me the same answer.”

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Correct.? It does not originate in the OG. There’s nothing evidential to suggest it does; no period records support that assumption. What is the oldest dated (written) “Fourth Step” by an AA in this format ? Mid-1940s?

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I’ve done much research, but you won’t like my findings.? It certainly does NOT come from the OG (as you may have surmised.) The general idea might go back V. Kitchen’s I Was a Pagan [1934] pp.44-5, and similar defects lists were known from other books. ?But the “actual origin” of these specific Inventories is in the very composition of the Big Book, by the Anonymous Authors themselves, in 1938. Given at least two doctors were involved at Hopkins, and they had ample opportunity to interview the Phipps Clinic psychiatrists, it is reasonable to presume the neurotic elements were identified, discussed and decided there (AA [1939], p.200). Specifically, ‘where’: on the Third Floor of the William Welch Library.

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But ‘how’ did they devise these Inventories? We are given a clear-cut, text-book schema. Look VERY carefully at the Resentment Inventory (pp.77-8 FIRST EDITION) – item by item – and you will see it’s a jig-saw puzzle of Alcoholic Personality Traits illustrated throughout the 1939 Basic Text. In fact, every Resentment ties in neatly elsewhere. Start at the top. You should be able to figure out Who/What “Mr. Brown” really is … Hint: he’s a Co-worker (see p.160).

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Everything falls into place; like a jig-saw puzzle, there’s only one solution. So yes, it is a "black and white" (p.80) “definite example” (p.77) and not chaotic like our real-lives. (It’s certainly NOT Bill’s own inventory: let’s put an end to that nonsense.)? Like a NYT cross-word puzzle, it can be solved. Have a Sponsee get a pencil and paper, cite relevant passages, referencing pages for each Item. It’s an excellent task -- Sobriety is ‘thinking through’ and successfully solving such problems (pp.4,5,44,54,57,64,65,80,113,129,130,158). Basically, see p.102 and follow the Directions.

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Therefore (logically), AA’s Resentment Schema was devised in November 1938 ... AFTER the other Chapters were completed.

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But there is one other key source, dating from mid-1938. Go to “Step 2” in ‘Wilson’s Original Story’ (1938), Lines 995-1039, where Bill is supposedly given an ancient Hellenistic Jewish vice-list known as the 'Twelve Mortal Torments.' (Roman Catholics will be more familiar with an analogous system: ‘the Seven Deadly Sins’.) Where is THAT from? I suppose there must be a Chaldaean/Nazorean origin – following the Anonymous Authors’ background research into CH XIII.7, the 'primordial source' should be Alexandria Egypt. In the Big Book, for reasons unknown, the List of (Zodiacal) Twelve Defects was reduced to our Three Exemplars: “Resentment” {?ργ?}, “Fear” {Faithlessness: ?πιστ?α} and Sex {?πιθυμ?α}. I think – it is my opinion, others may disagree – these generalize Three Dimensions we must surmount. ‘Resentment’ (Wrath) represents the Physical, ‘Fear’ will be the Mental, and ‘Sex’ reveals whatever Spiritual Obstacle(s) you face. In the Inventories we work our way up, from Base Insanity (i.e. the raging alkie detoxing in bed) to Enlightenment (i.e. the Sober Man, perfecting his spiritual life, p.24), in stages. So why did our Anonymous Authors abandon the nine other Categories from ‘Wilson’s Original Story’? Brevity. But within five years, the Cleveland A.A. Sponsorship Pamphlet (1944) had created 20 Categories based on their own first-hand experience, totally unrelated to the ancient Jewish source. Then Bill’s Twelve and Twelve (1953) addressed other Defects too. Purists may loathe change, but AA and 12-Step Inventories have evolved over time.

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“The points of the {Step Four} is to use the principle of inventory, to find your defects …so you can share them in Step Five …It doesn't matter how one comes to realize their {Defects}, just that they do.”

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Excellent perspective, here. However, the Mortal Threat {“Drinking”/Addiction: #1}, the Defects (#2), the Shortcomings (#3), and the Daily Problems/Venial Harms (#4) are actually Four Stages of Error, different classes of Obstacles.? If you can identify other examples of the Four Step Course in the 1939 Edition – especially in the stories – the original four-fold concept becomes much clearer. The Anonymous Authors are re-creating an occult Judeo-Pythagorean Tetractys for healing. The “actual origin” is derived from a First Century Sethian Judaic cult. That’s how I have followed the Anonymous Authors’ research into this Judeo-Hermetic anagoge (the Twelve Steps as a psycho-spiritual ‘Jacob’s Ladder’), but your mileage may vary. While I do think an historical?understanding can be useful insight for someone Sober/sane,?Newcomers, the feeble-minded, and the Not Sober (or Psychopathic) should not be given anything but the most simple instruction.?

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Anyway, Bill W. didn’t just “make it up” at his kitchen table; that’s utterly ridiculous, mindless, and wrong.

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As many already know, Dr. Esther Loring Richards (1885-1956) of Johns Hopkins Phipps Clinic supposedly wrote Bill Wilson a letter (7/19/1938) regarding the preliminary work, a 2-chapter book prospectus she had received for critical review. She suggested getting a “a Number One physician who has a wide knowledge of the alcoholic's medical and social problems to write an introduction.” (Kurtz, Not God, p.236). There are numerous connections to Hopkins: Ding! Ding! Ding! which is also the only University or Hospital NAMED in AA (1939).?

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fwiw: when Reverend Father John Rathbone Oliver (1872-1943) died in 1943, TIME Magazine reported that Dr. Oliver was long known as Baltimore’s “No. 1 psychiatrist.” In three decades, he had treated many addicts and served at Baltimore's Court House. Circa 1917-1922, we may wonder if he was also an Emmanuelist working alongside Rev. Samuel McComb. If there’s a hallmark of Emmanuelism stamped upon the Basic Text, I don’t think that’s coincidental either.

[Moderator comment: VERY interesting thread! Let's just please make sure to be careful that it didn't deduct towards opinion or non-conclusive conjecture. Thanks! -Thom R. AAHL Moderator]

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