On May 5, 2020, at 1:56 PM, pdBillW <Lawyer@...> wrote:

?Hi Bob: I believe her name was "Irma Livoni" during her time around AA. I always think it is important to recognize the fact that the ONLY things we know about her AA experience in Los Angeles, is that there's a letter of the group "asking her" to come before them to explain herself, and asking her not to attend meetings until she did so. Famously Sybil Corwin (and 5-other last names) would talk at meetings about her treatment in terms of (a) early women's experience with the male dominated fellowship, and (b) Sybil herself had a version of "whatever happened" to Irma, that so far can not be proved with "independent sources." This controversy was also "pre-Tradition" when the fellowship as a whole was struggling with stuff like "membership committees" and what a member's "rights" were. some groups for instance held a member LOST membership by getting caught or admitting drinking again. Others didn't. The fellowship was still in its "explosive growth" period when a lot of this nonsense was going on....The Traditions really reigned in the groups....Thanks for posting!!