Not sure how to upload the file directly but here is a Google drive link to the talk by Penny P and Michael B from 2022 History Symposium, if anyone is still looking for it.
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Jeff E
Green Bay, WI
Area 74 Archives
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[Moderator comment: That is a great talk. I have saved messages from both from back then and Penny and I especially go back years. Both are wonderful people. -Thom]
