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For those of you who have installed gutters,? how far do you have them extend past the edge.? ?I have seen someone say only 1/2 ", but that seems short to me.??
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Probably not what you are referring to, but the dormer roof seal that covers the hinge should be about 3/4" beyond the roof to create a drip edge.? Otherwise water will flow directly over the roof and wrap around the end of the spring and enter the camper.? Either the factory or the previous owner of my Classic had cut them off flush.? It took me some time to realize it was the source of water appearing in the channel below the hinge inside.
-- Don DeRyke Sunrise, Florida 2009 Classic, 2020 Ford Escape, 2.0 liter EcoBoost, AWD.? Previous TV 2015 Ford Escape 1.6 ltr EcoBoost engine.
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I used ?” x ?” x 1/16” aluminum angle for my gutters.? They hang out about ?” on each side, but water still wicks down the underside and into the vulnerable corner of the roof-to-sidewall junction.? So I also added small deflectors angled outboard in the way of the water trail to protect the vulnerable corners. ? Since my installation (some years ago), I have recently seen a better design.? Mike Gonda installed his angle aluminum along the rear and front edges of the roof extrusions, rather than along the top.? This extends the flat area of the roof out beyond its edge, making a shed lip where the water pours off the roof all along its length, instead of being channeled toward the vulnerable edges.? I’d still want edge deflectors, but his design doesn’t result in channeled water at the roof edges. ? Live and learn… ? Dave ? ………………… ? For those of you who have installed gutters,? how far do you have them extend past the edge.? ?I have seen someone say only 1/2 ", but that seems short to me
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Yeah,no. No dormers, but thanks.
Probably not what you are referring to, but the dormer roof seal that covers the hinge should be about 3/4" beyond the roof to create a drip edge.? Otherwise water will flow directly over the roof and wrap around the end of the spring and enter the camper.? Either the factory or the previous owner of my Classic had cut them off flush.? It took me some time to realize it was the source of water appearing in the channel below the hinge inside.
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Don DeRyke
Sunrise, Florida
2009 Classic, 2020 Ford Escape, 2.0 liter EcoBoost, AWD.?
Previous TV 2015 Ford Escape 1.6 ltr EcoBoost engine.
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What do you nean by roof "extrusions"?
I used ?” x ?” x 1/16” aluminum angle for my gutters.? They hang out about ?” on each side, but water still wicks down the underside and into the vulnerable corner of the roof-to-sidewall junction.? So I also added small deflectors angled outboard in the way of the water trail to protect the vulnerable corners. ? Since my installation (some years ago), I have recently seen a better design.? Mike Gonda installed his angle aluminum along the rear and front edges of the roof extrusions, rather than along the top.? This extends the flat area of the roof out beyond its edge, making a shed lip where the water pours off the roof all along its length, instead of being channeled toward the vulnerable edges.? I’d still want edge deflectors, but his design doesn’t result in channeled water at the roof edges. ? Live and learn… ? Dave ? ………………… ? For those of you who have installed gutters,? how far do you have them extend past the edge.? ?I have seen someone say only 1/2 ", but that seems short to me
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Pictures please?? I don't know where these are being used.? Over a door? -- Don DeRyke Sunrise, Florida 2009 Classic, 2020 Ford Escape, 2.0 liter EcoBoost, AWD.? Previous TV 2015 Ford Escape 1.6 ltr EcoBoost engine.
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No pictures yet. Some folks put them on the front and rear roof panels to channel away rain water. There is a DIY articke(with pictures!) On AOC website.
Pictures please?? I don't know where these are being used.? Over a door?
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Don DeRyke
Sunrise, Florida
2009 Classic, 2020 Ford Escape, 2.0 liter EcoBoost, AWD.?
Previous TV 2015 Ford Escape 1.6 ltr EcoBoost engine.
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Your roof, side walls, etc are framed with lengths of aluminum that are called extrusions because of the way they are made. They give the panels they frame a lot of strength. Water running down the roof surface ends up falling onto the extrusions and, if not redirected, can flow into the corners where the coil springs are, causing water damage. This is the leading cause of water damage to front and rear sidewalls and eventually the floors under them.
Dave
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What do you mean by roof "extrusions"?
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No. They are installed across the width of the front and rear roof halves so that water running down the surfaces of the roof halves ends up in the gutters, and flows out the ends of the gutters, hopefully missing the vulnerable corners where the coil springs are mounted.?
Dave?
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I don't know where these are being used.? Over a door?
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Dave,
You don't think the hinge seals protect the corners??? -- Don DeRyke Sunrise, Florida 2009 Classic, 2020 Ford Escape, 2.0 liter EcoBoost, AWD.? Previous TV 2015 Ford Escape 1.6 ltr EcoBoost engine.
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? They’re supposed to help protect that area, but it’s a complex, moving area, and historically the combination of hinge seals wrapped around the corners plus the plastic water shields attached to the roof corners has not guaranteed full water ingress deterrence. Nor has the factory’s lame attempts to caulk that area. Water still wicks through that area with resulting damage to wood, as evidenced by numerous instances of sidewall and floor water damage, coil spring tail eruptions through the sidewall skin, etc. ? The only sure way to protect those corners is to wick water flow away from them.? Water not only flows into the area from the roof over the sides, but also down the edges of the roof side extrusions. ? Dave ? …………… ? You don't think the hinge seals protect the corners???
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Hi
Gang:
All
Dave says is true, and I contend that most of the corner
leakage happens when you are not camping. Just a car port
might be enough to keep the corners dry. If our camper had to
set outside I would at least keep a dehumidifier running
inside, roof up or down.
Carl.
On 7/23/2023 9:05 AM, elegy3983 wrote:
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They’re supposed to help protect
that area, but it’s a complex, moving area, and
historically the combination of hinge seals wrapped around
the corners plus the plastic water shields attached to the
roof corners has not guaranteed full water ingress
deterrence. Nor has the factory’s lame attempts to caulk
that area. Water still wicks through that area with
resulting damage to wood, as evidenced by numerous
instances of sidewall and floor water damage, coil spring
tail eruptions through the sidewall skin, etc.
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The only sure way to protect those
corners is to wick water flow away from them.? Water not
only flows into the area from the roof over the sides, but
also down the edges of the roof side extrusions.
?
Dave
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You
don't think the hinge seals protect the corners???
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Could I please have a further explanation of the newer method for placing a gutter?? Is the angled aluminum flush with the edge of the extrusion or below?? Is the angled aluminum mounted with the flat section toward the top, or is it inverted?? ?Thanks very
much.? Jerry
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Don DeRyke
Carl