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Sieg C3 vs SC3


 

"For ME, I would absolutely go with the longer bed.? That distance can gets used up pretty fast with a chuck in the headstock, work piece, drill, and Jacobs chuck in the tail stock.? I also like a longer bed so I can move the tailstock further out of my way when not using it."

I agree completely, but I worked for years (and made several large projects), with a Harbor Freight 7x10, and there are ways to get around bed-length problems. (And these ways are worth knowing about no matter how big your lathe is). A drill in the tailstock doesn't HAVE to be in a chuck. You can drill a pilot hole with a small drill in the chuck, then hold your big drill on the tailstock center with a lathe dog on the drill shaft to keep it from turning. (And that center can be a homemade short one that hardly sticks out, not the giant centers you buy). When drilling from the tail stock, you can also shorten drills by simply sawing off the shaft -- they aren't hardened.

Also, many things held in a chuck can instead be held on the faceplate. Most people used the faceplate for holding odd-shaped things that won't fit in the chuck, but if you're bed-challenged, you can also use it to save the ~2" of bed length that a chuck uses up.

Eventually I bought a longer bed for my 7x10 from little machine shop, but I don't regret my original purchase of the short bed. It helped develop my ingenuity.

Mike Taglieri


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From: Charles Kinzer via <ckinzer=[email protected]>
Date: Sun, Dec 15, 2024, 6:45?PM
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] Sieg C3 vs SC3
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I'm not completely expert in the differences and just rambling from memory.

But first, I don't think anybody can say if lathe X is better than lathe Y - for YOU.

It is my understanding that the SC3 has a better motor arrangement and also a longer bed (7x16 instead of 7x14).

For ME, I would absolutely go with the longer bed.? That distance can gets used up pretty fast with a chuck in the headstock, work piece, drill, and Jacobs chuck in the tail stock.? I also like a longer bed so I can move the tailstock further out of my way when not using it.

But plenty are fine with the various shorter bed models.

Another thing I think about is the cost of the tooling.? And how I would feel paying the same money for tooling (chucks, better tool post, and on and on) for the lathe I didn't really want versus the lathe I really did want.? So, I suggest it is often best to go for the most machine you reasonably can unless cost is absolutely a major factor.

That would also mean looking at options other than C3 versus SC3 and perhaps other lathes.

Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

On Sunday, December 15, 2024 at 02:40:45 PM PST, Old Boilermaker via <alned03=[email protected]> wrote:


Contemplating buying a mini lathe for home use. Is it worth spending the extra money to buy a SC3 as opposed to a C3 ?.


 

Jump in it's a great hobby, you and me are on the same plane, This group has such a great amount of knowledge you can't go wrong.


 

Hi Old Boilermaker, I thought they killed us all off.
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One thing to keep in mind no matter which you end up with, these things wind up being more of a kit than a finished product right out of the crate. You will invariably be fixing and adjusting things from the get go.

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On Sunday, December 15th, 2024 at 4:46 PM, Ryan H via groups.io <ifly172@...> wrote:

If it were me, I'd go for the longer one funds permitting.? I just managed to make a new 11 inch screw on my 7x14.? Like someone else said, length gets eaten up with a tail stock, live center, drill chuck and whatever else you may need at that end.? I got it done and it came out really nice but man, that extra two inches would have made life a lot easier.? It's easier to use less of the machine than to make it longer.? :-)

On Sunday, December 15, 2024 at 07:37:45 PM EST, Old Boilermaker via groups.io <alned03@...> wrote:


You make some really good points so I think I need to explain my situation.? So I am a retired Boilermaker.? These days keep active by building various things in my shed. Every now and then I run into a situation where I might need a shaf to run between bearings, or a bronze bush, an aluminium pulley or a simple hinge, you get the idea. Up until now I have been either trying to buy these things off the shelf, or paying someone to machine something for me. I just thought it would be nice to have a little machine so I can do most of these tasks myself.
I am no machinist that's for sure, infact only ti.e I've even been near a lathe was in metalwork class at high school and possibly at trade school though I am competent enough to learn or at least have a go at it.


 

If it were me, I'd go for the longer one funds permitting.? I just managed to make a new 11 inch screw on my 7x14.? Like someone else said, length gets eaten up with a tail stock, live center, drill chuck and whatever else you may need at that end.? I got it done and it came out really nice but man, that extra two inches would have made life a lot easier.? It's easier to use less of the machine than to make it longer.? :-)

On Sunday, December 15, 2024 at 07:37:45 PM EST, Old Boilermaker via groups.io <alned03@...> wrote:


You make some really good points so I think I need to explain my situation.? So I am a retired Boilermaker.? These days keep active by building various things in my shed. Every now and then I run into a situation where I might need a shaf to run between bearings, or a bronze bush, an aluminium pulley or a simple hinge, you get the idea. Up until now I have been either trying to buy these things off the shelf, or paying someone to machine something for me. I just thought it would be nice to have a little machine so I can do most of these tasks myself.
I am no machinist that's for sure, infact only ti.e I've even been near a lathe was in metalwork class at high school and possibly at trade school though I am competent enough to learn or at least have a go at it.


 

You make some really good points so I think I need to explain my situation.? So I am a retired Boilermaker.? These days keep active by building various things in my shed. Every now and then I run into a situation where I might need a shaf to run between bearings, or a bronze bush, an aluminium pulley or a simple hinge, you get the idea. Up until now I have been either trying to buy these things off the shelf, or paying someone to machine something for me. I just thought it would be nice to have a little machine so I can do most of these tasks myself.
I am no machinist that's for sure, infact only ti.e I've even been near a lathe was in metalwork class at high school and possibly at trade school though I am competent enough to learn or at least have a go at it.


 

Having spent decades regretting buying the cheaper version of a tool instead of the slightly more expensive version with an added feature I'd love to have, I agree with the idea of buy the best you can find!
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Roy


 

I'm not completely expert in the differences and just rambling from memory.

But first, I don't think anybody can say if lathe X is better than lathe Y - for YOU.

It is my understanding that the SC3 has a better motor arrangement and also a longer bed (7x16 instead of 7x14).

For ME, I would absolutely go with the longer bed.? That distance can gets used up pretty fast with a chuck in the headstock, work piece, drill, and Jacobs chuck in the tail stock.? I also like a longer bed so I can move the tailstock further out of my way when not using it.

But plenty are fine with the various shorter bed models.

Another thing I think about is the cost of the tooling.? And how I would feel paying the same money for tooling (chucks, better tool post, and on and on) for the lathe I didn't really want versus the lathe I really did want.? So, I suggest it is often best to go for the most machine you reasonably can unless cost is absolutely a major factor.

That would also mean looking at options other than C3 versus SC3 and perhaps other lathes.

Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

On Sunday, December 15, 2024 at 02:40:45 PM PST, Old Boilermaker via groups.io <alned03@...> wrote:


Contemplating buying a mini lathe for home use. Is it worth spending the extra money to buy a SC3 as opposed to a C3 ?.


 

Contemplating buying a mini lathe for home use. Is it worth spending the extra money to buy a SC3 as opposed to a C3 ?.