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7X14 mini-lathe
In a message dated 11/15/2002 4:26:22 AM Atlantic Standard Time,
fhoose@... writes: Read your review many time before I purchased my 7X14. I had written to you quite some time ago how thru the largesse of a friend of mine I had the opportunity to "play" with a 9X20 and a 7X10. 9X too big, too many mods to bring it up to speed, 7X many features I liked, variable speed,tumblers, etc., too small. The 7X14 was just right, reminded me of a SB I had many years ago. I am very pleased with the 7X14, just wanted to know what other owners may have experienced with it "under fire" |
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Frank Hoose --- copascetic1 <copascetic1@...> wrote:
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Good! When I had described my situation of having to choose between the two
lathes, your comment was, humorously, "What a dilemma!". I was more or less in limbo not wanting to purchase any accessories not knowing which lathe I would keep, then the 7X14 came along and that solved my dilemma. It may seem strange to some that which ever lathe I had kept it would have been at no cost. However, I found the 7X14 suited my purpose and chose to buy it. Now I can proceed to purchase the accessories for the 7X14 such as a 4" 4-jaw, backplate, QCTP, etc. I have a mini-mill and have already purchased from you the clamp set. |
Ah, yes, now I make the connection. :)
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lathe_7x14
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "copascetic1" <copascetic1@...> wrote:
I have had my new 7 x 14 for a week now. There were several faults when it arrived (as I had expected). The DRO wasn't working and that turned out to be an intermittant connection on the Display board. The usual fault is the sensor plug working loose during transit. The speed sensor had been maladjusted and the interrupter vanes almost touching one side of the opto switch. The mounting for the sensor has adjustment holes, so that wasn't a big problem, to center the switch gap around the vane. The power to the spindle was also intermittent and that was because a connector had worked loose on the main PCB board, next to the sensor plug. The MT2 hole in the tail stock had not been bored deep enough and it was ejecting the centre, effectively losing a good 20.0mm of travel. I had read about this problem elsewhere and cut about 20.0 mm off the end of the Morse adapter sleeve for my chuck and that fixed it. One could gain about another 15.0mm of travel with a smaller diameter Morse taper, but I am happy with it as it is. I also ordered two spare tool holders for the quick change tool post, making a total of five. The two spare ones would not fit on the dove tail of the QRTP and the supplier changed them for me. When the tool holders are set to the correct height, they foul the QRTP clamping lever, so at some stage I need to find some shorter socket headed screws, for tool height adjustment. I found it a bit finiky pushing the sling dovetail out of the block each time I wanted to change a tool holder, so I have fitted a spring on the plunger so it always pushes the dovetail out when taking off the tension. That is about it for the moment. I did some real turning on it yesterday and today and I am well pleased with the lathe and find it excellent value for money. |
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like a lot of problems right out of the box. Would you mind telling us where you
purchased this lathe from? It might help other in deciding where they purchase
their first lathe from. Many newbies might not want want to have to deal with
repairing or adjusting so many things on a new lathe.
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Michael
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lathe_7x14
I think it is really a matter of getting what one pays for and that it would be unfair to blame the supplier. It is generally understood that between the Chinese factory and the buyer the box get's transshipped many times and bounced about, and things do come loose. Usually the first time the box gets opened is when it reaches the buyer and he does the 'quality check' at this end. I have seen one supplier who for ?100 offers to open the box and 'prepare' the lathe, but whether that includes a full functional test, I don't know. When I first looked at the Chinese lathes it was suggested that the best way of looking at them was as a 'kit of parts' and one has to be prepared to do some work on them. The fact that I, an 'expert' after one whole days experience, managed to clear all the problems, shows that they were fairly simple to resolve.
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I think the best approach is to examine the box on the pallet for any external signs of damage, before signing the carriers paperwork. The polystyrene packing is very thin, but bruises should show up on the outside of the cardboard box. After unpacking photograph anything you don't like and immediately inform the supplier. In this case the supplier was really on the ball and helpful and I would recommend them to anyone. They even told me to keep the two undersized tool holders and immediately sent me the correct replacements. So I have nothing but praise for the supplier and do not think it would be fair to penalise them in any way. I am a happy customer. --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Michael Jablonski" <michaeljab@...> wrote:
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MERTON B BAKER
Dunno what others experience, except for the complaints I read about here,
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but the experience I've had with the Chinese 7x lathes, one 7x10 from HF, One 7x12 from Homier (RB), and one 7x12 from Grizzly, is that they all worked much better that I expected from the amount of money I paid, and continue to do so. I was especially pleased to find out that the 7x12s are really 7x14s. Difference of opinion is what horse racing is all about, however. I don't know how many of these machines are in use in this country, let alone others, but adding up all the complaints would seem to indicate a very small percentage, and surely some of that would be from some who do not realize that they are looking in the mirror. To expect less than half a tenth runout from a $400 7x12 lathe seems unrealistic to me. Paying what a machine with guaranteed half-a-tenth runout would cost, is equally unrealistic, I'm a retired small town schoolteacher. Rejoice & learn. Mert -----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of lathe_7x14 Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 6:04 AM To: 7x12minilathe@... Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: 7X14 mini-lathe I think it is really a matter of getting what one pays for and that it would be unfair to blame the supplier. It is generally understood that between the Chinese factory and the buyer the box get's transshipped many times and bounced about, and things do come loose. Usually the first time the box gets opened is when it reaches the buyer and he does the 'quality check' at this end. I have seen one supplier who for ???100 offers to open the box and 'prepare' the lathe, but whether that includes a full functional test, I don't know. When I first looked at the Chinese lathes it was suggested that the best way of looking at them was as a 'kit of parts' and one has to be prepared to do some work on them. The fact that I, an 'expert' after one whole days experience, managed to clear all the problems, shows that they were fairly simple to resolve. I think the best approach is to examine the box on the pallet for any external signs of damage, before signing the carriers paperwork. The polystyrene packing is very thin, but bruises should show up on the outside of the cardboard box. After unpacking photograph anything you don't like and immediately inform the supplier. In this case the supplier was really on the ball and helpful and I would recommend them to anyone. They even told me to keep the two undersized tool holders and immediately sent me the correct replacements. So I have nothing but praise for the supplier and do not think it would be fair to penalise them in any way. I am a happy customer. --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Michael Jablonski" <michaeljab@...> wrote:
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓý2nd Merts opinion.Im in Barcelona, Spain., and paid about 400€ for a 350 mm 7x14, maybe 7 years ago. Have about 0.006 mm TIR, which is very good, imo. Put a 125 mm 4-jay independent chuck on it, and very happy with it. ALL my work, or 99%, in steels. Very good results, using proper (CCMT) carbide inserts almost exclusively. I use a BXA toolpost, and 16 mm toolholders, from Chronos. Lathe was cnc, no temporarily used as a polishing lathe only. Cannot really do big steel workpieces, above 120 mm, and I now have an industrial 12x for heavy pieces. ? |
Jim Dunmyer
Years ago, I kept getting the H.F. flyers with the ads for the 7X10 "Precision Lathe", for a price of $369.00, IIRC. I kept wondering just how good it could be for that sort of price. One day, I happened to get on their web site and saw the 7X10 for only $329.00; my credit card caught fire as I yanked it from my wallet!
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Once I had the lathe in hand, I did a bit of research (backwards, I know!) and found that there was nearly a cult following of the little machines. Yahoo! discussion groups, web sites that showed all sorts of mods, detailed instructions on finishing the lathe and making it "right", etc. I performed most of those operations and used the lathe for years, and recently upgraded to a lightly-used MicroMark 7X14. Of course, I had to do all the mods/tuneups again, but that's no big deal. As many have said, the lathe would cost probably twice as much if the factory lavished that sort of care on it. We all owe a debt to those users who documented their mods and tuneups so that we can do them to our lathes. Thanks, Guys!! <<Jim>> ----- Original Message -----
From: "MERTON B BAKER" <mertbaker@...> To: <7x12minilathe@...> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 6:35 AM Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Re: 7X14 mini-lathe Dunno what others experience, except for the complaints I read about here, |
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long as you're happy that's all that matters. Good to hear that the supplier was
eager to step up and take care of any problems you had.
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