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Ralph,?
Truly any thing that gets the job done with the lease amount of damage, is the "correct" tool.
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You need to clean the gap, then lower the material in the gap to below the surface of the commutator contacts,?
so that, as it wears more during use, it (they)does not begin to hold the brush up off of the contact area.
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Did you see the installed brushes contacting the armature w/o the end cap yet?
Do they remain straight when contacting the armature?
Any new photos?
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Good Luck!


On 7/3/2024 10:18 AM, Ralph Hulslander wrote:

RE: " ?It has a short piece of hacksaw blade mounted for cleaning out the slots"

I thought someone?had said it was not a good idea to use a hacksaw?blade.

I know the Armature lathes have a rotating mental bit to clean the slots.

So is there a difference?

Ralph

On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 11:32?PM mike allen via <animal=[email protected]> wrote:

I have another armature lathe , that I bought 20=30 years back . Had no idea what it was , I have a weakness for things that seem bitchin & much to my wife's dismay I have way to many . It has a short piece of hacksaw blade mounted for cleaning out the slots . After kicking it around for a bunch of years I bought the one I posted earlier & When I did a Ebay search to see what the Tru-Arc armature lathes were going for low & behold there was a guy selling the twin to the old bitchin one , let me see if I can find a link to that one . It's nowhere as fancy as the Tru-arc .

animal


On 7/1/24 10:49 PM, gcvisalia@... wrote:
One can also take a hacksaw blade and use that to clean out the insulation. Some may require a bit of modifying to fit properly.

george

On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 10:42:04 PM PDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:


??? Mine is identical to the one I linked . I've seen them on ebay & at some flea markets . the motor has that long skinny shaft with a little star washer kinda lookin cutter that cleans out the grooves on the communicator .? Let me see if I can find a longer youtube on it . Mine is over at a bud's place , We were thinkin on doing some automotive alternator windmills , but life got in the way . I installed some new power in our local NAPA auto parts for their new alternator tester? when he said gimme a bill I told him I wanted the old tester , we were gearing up & then .....

Here's a pretty good tube on one , these folks have a couple of the l'll buggers .

Ebay has a couple but their pretty darn proud of them .


this ones pretty good , Lost Creek Machine had one a ways back they may still ?

animal

On 7/1/24 8:53 PM, Jon Rus via wrote:
Mike,?
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I have never seen one of these and this unit clearly has a label identifying its'-self.
Is this your actual lathe or similar to yours?
What does the motor do? Help with balancing? Missing a chuck that has a cutter to clear the grooves between the armature contacts?
Does it have a main drive motor?
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Nice history lesson.

On 7/1/2024 11:44 PM, mike allen wrote:

I picked up a armature lathe many years back at a yard sale . I asked the guy how much for te armature lathe & he said " is that what that is " . He gave it to me cause I was the only guy out of 50-75 people that knew what it was . Have used it a fair amount over the years .

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If ya ever see one of these at a yard sale & ya can get it cheap their on the handy side .

I've always used scotch pads instead of sand paper over teh years , their a bit cleaner then sand paper . Here's some scotch pad info that some of ya may find interesting

SCOTCH-BRITE GRIT CHART
3M Scotch Brite Nylon Pads:
7445 - White pad, called Light Duty Cleansing - (1000) 1200-1500 grit
7448 - Light Grey, called Ultra Fine Hand - (600-800) 800 grit.
6448 - Green (?), called Light Duty Hand Pad - (600) 600 grit
7447 - Maroon pad, called General Purpose Hand - (320-400) 320 grit
6444 - Brown pad, called Extra Duty Hand - (280-320) 240 grit
7446 - Dark Grey pad, called Blending Pad (180-220) 150 grit
7440 - Tan pad, called Heavy Duty Hand Pad - (120-150) 60(?)
Green Scotch Brite is available EVERYWHERE. It's 600 grit.
Blue Scotch-Brite is considered to be about 1000 grit.
(The value inside the parentheses is directly from 3M.)
3M Chart
Less Aggressive --------> More Aggressive
7445 7448 6448 7447 6444 7446 7440
Finer Finish --------> Coarser Finish

animal

On 7/1/24 7:33 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

You don’t need to turn it, you just need to clean it.

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By turn I meant put it in the chuck and spin it by hand, holding? the sandpaper in the other.

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Here’s some good pictures showing the general idea: , obviously a smaller motor than what you’ve got.

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“kinda rough” is an understatement.? Basically that carbon can build up between the copper rails and cause a short, might be your problem.? But yeah, shiny & smooth is good.? Once you get all the black gunk off you be able to see if there any further damage that you’ll need a lathe to fix, things like gouges & pitting.

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What do you mean by belt?

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Tony

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ralph Hulslander via
Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2024 12:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] how to.inspect.motor?

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My other lathe is not running so I cannot turn the commutator.
That commutator does look kinda rough.

What is the belt?



Ralph



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