I agree?
It is part of a mini lathe
But it is also part of lot of electronics.?
I said in beginning? I found a power strip is best way to go for mini lathes and all other electronics.
Some do wonder why.?
Unless have very old mini lathe using a AC motors you will have those problem?
Just a part of today's life.?
Dave?
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On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 09:23 AM, Miket_NYC wrote:
You guys are all very knowledgeable, but aren't we getting a bit far afield from minilathes? As for me, I have my machines and lights in my basement shop plugged into a power strip above my workbench and I shut it off when I'm done for the day.?
On Sat, May 18, 2024, 11:57 PM davesmith1800 via <davesmith1=
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I do live in California so know all probles .
I also look into solar. The only way pay if you install your self and it used off grid.?
Dave?
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 03:14 PM, Chris Albertson wrote:
Looks like plugs in every time to place it by a electrician.?
20 years ago that cost $160.00 and hard wire.?
At less price is coming down.?
More pain?
It does not protect against welders only what come from power pole.?
I will stick power strip for my mini lathe.?
The new home cost of solar adds $10,000 per news
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Pocket-change in California. ? Broker commision is $50K and taxes are $30K per year. ? ?
?Ther are no new homes for under $1M, and very hard to find for under $1.5M.? But still they sell very fast as there are an unlimited number of buyers who can afford it or more.? Near me by the beach, 3X to 5X higher. ??
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Then that $10K upfront investment saves you $100 per month on the electric bill, that is a fast payback and then for the next 15 years you make $100/month profit. ? Most people will opt for a larger system and spend closer to 20K so most of their electric bill is covered.
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About what is covered?? A surge protector is wired in PARALLEL to all house wires.? It is not wired in series. ? So YES, it DOES protect against internally generated surges.? In fact, placing a 200A protection in your panel box would offer some protection to neighbors who share the same utility pole transformer. ?(limited by resistance in the wires). The device clamps the rails in the box to some maximum voltage.? It would 100% certain stop the surge from jumping across branch circuits
Dave?
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 11:41 AM, Chris Albertson wrote:
Are those whole house units still only one use ?
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One use? ? You mean like a fuse? ? No.? They come with some kind of warranty but likely last forever. ? Link below is to a brand sold at Home Depot.? It is the plug-in kind and only works with their brand. ? ?Every brand has these and installation is trivial if you have space in the panel.? Oh, notice the ¡°replace¡± light. ? I guess it is concievable it might go on after just one direct hit by lightening but more likey it will live in the panel for 30 or 50 years.
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The OTHER thing that is now required is ¡°combined GFCI arc-fault breakers". ? People hate them because of nuisance trips.? They cost $100 each and you might need a couple dozen of them. if you are putting in a pen panel.? They add $1,000 to a typical job. ? But there is no possible way to ever have an electrical fire or electrocution.? So they are worth the added $1K.
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As long as we are at it.? In Calif. all new contruction must have solar panels on the roof.
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On 5/16/24 9:41 PM, Chris Albertson wrote:
The ¡°best¡±?? The latest electric code (here in the US, the NEC) has taken all the fun out of this.? All new service entrance panels are required to have ¡°Whole House¡± surge protection.? This only applies to newly installed panels in new construction or retrofit.? But if you are going to worry about protecting stuff, you might as well just do it once
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These devices are easy to install into an old panel and because they are required, they are available ¡°everywhere¡±. ? ?Just put one of these in and be done with it and it will cover your TV, computer, power tools, car charger, and whatever.
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There are two basic kinds, one snaps in like a larger size 220 volt circuit breaker and the other screws into a knockout.
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OK, but you really wanted a AC-DC-AC system.? You might be in luck because that is how all brushless motors work. ? There is one of those inside the lathe already if you have a brushless motor
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But if I am not mistaken, I think all mini lathes use PWM to control the motor.? If so, then you already have a kind of AC-DC-AC system in from of the lathe's motor.
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What is the best AC protector/stabilator for a 7x14 lathe?
There are many types: one for your computer, one for your fridge.
Full AC-DC-AC is maybe a littlebit luxury?
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davesmith1800