I think you might be misunderstanding my point.? The group name IS correct for what the marketplace overwhelmingly uses the term "mini lathe" for the.7xWhatever Chinese lathes whether Harbor Freight or all of the other rebrandings, Little Machine Shop, Arc Euro Trade, and many more.

A watchmakers lathe is a completely different category of lathe in my view.

Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 12:40:09 PM PST, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

??? so we should change the group name ?

??? ??? animal

On 1/14/24 12:01 PM, Charles Kinzer wrote:

I don't consider the "mini lathe" remotely derivative from any typical watchmakers lathe. Other than the aspect of "small", they are completely different.? The mini lathe is an "engine lathe" and is just a scaled down version of larger lathes of that type.

Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 11:53:25 AM PST, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

They look like a mini Monarch 10ee . I think if ya want to get to the evolution of the " mini lathe " that ya need to be having a conversation about the Loarch , Levin & other watch makers/jewelry lathes . I let a watch makers lathe get away from me many years back for 200 bucks , there must have been 50 collets that came with among other tools & attachments . I'm still kickin myself on that one .

animal

On 1/13/24 11:29 PM, Charles Kinzer wrote:

Good video, as usual.? Yes, as he said those are quite collectible now and fetch a lot of money,

I acquired a MasterSon incarnation one in about 1964 from a friend, actually used it to make some model railroad parts, and then just stored it away until I foolishly sold it.? I bought another many years later that came with the VERY rare carrying case.? The lathes.co.uk site has my photos of that MasterSon lathe with the case.

If you want to read much more, see many more photos, ads, etc. here is the link to the first page of several at lathes.co.uk for these things.

Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 10:36:57 PM PST, Brian VanDragt <bvandragt@...> wrote:

Mr Pete started a video series on small lathes today. He starts with a 2x3 Manson lathe weighing 5.5 pounds.

Brian?

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From: Aaron Woods <awoods550@...>

Date: 1/4/24 9:30 AM (GMT-05:00)

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] is this an original minilathe

The terms, mini, micro and baby seem to have originated with Seig. I don't know that there is really much use to more fine grained than "small bench top" lathe' at most maybe "Table top" to distinguish the smaller easily moved (under 100lbs) from the larger more static models.

Swing obviously plays some part in this' but an Atlas /Craftsman 6x18" with its greater weight, and rear mounted motor is much less portable than a 7x14.