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Re: SPEAKIN BOUT FUSES


 

Excellent information.

Another potential point for a break in the grounding of a water pipe is when/where the pipe enters and leaves a water heater. To reduce corrosion, water heaters often employ dielectric fittings where the water line enters and leaves the heater. Thus, the potential grounding of the hot water line exiting the heater becomes electrically isolated from the cold water line entering the heater. While the hot water line should never be used for a ground connection, there is always someone who thinks this would be OK.

Jerry F.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charles
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2024 5:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] SPEAKIN BOUT FUSES

There are a couple of types of breakers in a nutshell thermal trip and
magnetic trip.

Both have specific purposes and characteristics.

They do not however have arc over like fuses do. This is VERY carefully
designed into them prevent this very type of failure.

They do extreme testing during manufacturing process to insure this
cannot happen. The stress testing for arc far exceeds its rating.

I have worked as a Controls Engineer for over 35 years and actually
worked for Schneider Electric at their plant that makes breakers I can
tell you it would amaze you how much they put them through in testing.
It is scary to watch sometimes!

Also you always want to break the hot side of a circuit NEVER break the
neutral. That is a violation of both NEC,CE, and NFPA regulations along
with UL. You also NEVER should tie a ground wire from anything to a
water pipe. I know they used to do this. BUT it is no longer allowed
with good reason. THINK about it. Someone comes along and replaces a
section of your metal pipe with plastic. This just happens to be between
your ground connection and actual point the pipes leave the building and
make contact with ground. You just lost your ground. That is WHY it is
NOT allowed. Same as you always tie one side of the secondary single
phase step-down transformer to chassis ground UN-fused and use it as
neutral.

If you put in sub panels AKA secondary panels a ground rod may be
required depending on the circumstances at the panel. Better safe than
sorry even if its not.

It is never too expensive to be safe. Installing ground fault breakers
in a panel are cheaper than plugs at point of use and protect the entire
load of that circuit. You can even get the ones that protect for arc
flash too but they can be a pain with larger electric motors especially
brush types. The sometimes see the motor starting as a fault and will
trip. But you can use a dedicated circuit if all else fails for your
older compressors and things like that.

ALWAYS REMEMBER MORE PEOPLE ARE KILLED BY HOUSEHOLD 120VAC THAN BY 480
VAC 3 PHASE EVERY YEAR.

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