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4x6 Bandsaw
popwri2002
I bought my 4x6 from HF about 3 months ago for $99.00 and love it.
It sure beats the hack saw. I don't use it everyday but it sure is nice to know it's sitting there waiting for me.I haven't had any problems with it so far.I have done a few mods. to it. Just buy one and have fun watching it do the work. Bill |
Re: Metal Cutting Bandsaws
Clint D
Pete
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I bought on eat HF for 99.00 a couple of months ago, so far it has been fine Clint ----- Original Message -----
From: "peppermark1" <pmark@...> To: <4x6bandsaw@...> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 9:07 PM Subject: [4x6bandsaw] Metal Cutting Bandsaws Dear Friends....Looking to purchase a small 4X6 size metal cutting |
Re: Metal Cutting Bandsaws
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I have the 4 x 6 HF model. I am very happy with it's performance. Arrived mostly assembled. I easily completed the rest of the assembly in less than an hour. It cut's metal like nobody's business. I have a Lennox (?) bi-metal blade and band aide fluid arriving Tuesday from J&L. I use mine almost on a daily basis. I have a small business that I need it for. What I would do differently ?? I would save up some more loot and buy the first size up that comes with a fluid cooling system and a larger/better motor. As it is, I will be doing what this fellow has done: I think I will buy a cart rather than make one. HF has a fluid system as does Enco and J&L too. With so much use, I think a fluid system added to it will help. The next step is to replace the motor with a better one if this one dies at some point. FWIW/IMHO Lenord ----- Original Message -----
From: "peppermark1" <pmark@...> To: <4x6bandsaw@...> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 9:07 PM Subject: [4x6bandsaw] Metal Cutting Bandsaws Dear Friends....Looking to purchase a small 4X6 size metal cutting |
Metal Cutting Bandsaws
peppermark1
Dear Friends....Looking to purchase a small 4X6 size metal cutting
bandsaw. Would like to hear any input from other fellow enthusiasts that have purchased Grizzly/Jet/HF and any other makes. The best value I've found so far has been the HF. Please feel free to share your experiences. Any insight, direction, assistance or recommendations you can offer will be appreciated. You may email me direct if you choose.Thank you all for taking the time to review this request. Kindest Regards - Pete pmark@... |
Re: Material buying warning! [long]
OUCH ...the price of progress?
Cheers,
Cletus
dswr@... wrote: Thanks for the warning, David. WARNING: This electronic mail (E-mail) document may contain privileged information?intended for?the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and subsequently destroy the document/file. Unlawful copying and/or dissemination of the information/data contained herein may be treated as copyright infringement and prosecuted as such. Do you Yahoo!? Free with sync to Outlook(TM). |
Material buying warning! [long]
David
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýGroups: I've just had a bad experience ordering some small pieces of metal, and I want to share it with the groups. I'm sure many of you have ordered from the same source. They have recently had a policy change that discriminates against the home hobbyist. ? I'm talking about the folks at Metal Express. If you look on the Sherline page [http://www.sherline.com/online.htm], you'll see URLs for "Metalmart.com" and "Metal Buyer's Mart." Both URLs will re-direct you to . ? I've been buying brass, aluminum, and steel pieces from them for nearly three years now. Although their web site has gone through several iterations, they've always had the following pricing procedure: the metal was priced by the inch, you specified the length of the piece in inches, and you entered the quantity. You did the simple arithmetic and filled in the price. [For example, 12L14 rod x .75 @ $.23/inch, length 4 inches, quantity 2,? would result in $1.84.] There was no cutting charge unless you wanted a ridiculous number of cuts. There was a fixed charge of $9.00 for "handling and cutting," no matter the amount of the order or the number of pieces. The shipping charge was extra, by UPS standard, and always seemed to come out at $5.85 on my orders. This was the state of affairs as recently as early April. ? Over this past Memorial Day weekend, I needed to place a small order (4 items, 7 pieces) that I knew would be expensive per piece because of the one-time charge, but I needed the items now and didn't want to buy anything else just for "stock." ? As soon as the software re-directed me to the new site, I knew there was something wrong: the price per inch was no longer displayed. Now you specify the item, the length, and the quantity and put it in the "shopping cart." The software does the calculation and shows you the price. Not really thinking too much about it, I filled out the order, placed it, and printed the details of the order. ? Subconsciously, I guess, I got to worrying that something wasn't right. When I reviewed the order, I found that a piece of brass flat, .5 x 1 x 3 was going to cost me $3.34/inch, and there was a "handling" fee of $5.00 and "shipping" of $5.33 in addition! The total for 5 pieces of steel and 2 pieces of brass came to $49.48! I resolved to call Metal Express' customer service this past Tuesday morning and question the situation. ? Sure enough, there has been a policy change: the goods are no longer sold by the inch, but by the pound. The representative explained the change as the result of large industrial firms' complaints. When I observed that the company was deserting the little guy, he said certainly not, the little guys had made their business. When I asked him how he wasn't deserting us by changing a policy to suit big businesses and to discriminate against individuals, he asked me whether I wanted to talk to the CEO. When I asked him whether the CEO would likely change the policy, he said probably not; then I asked him why I should listen to the same explanation on my long-distance bill. He had no answer. ? He assured me that he would cancel the order. ? I later placed the same order with a firm on the same Sherline page for less than half of Metal Express' price. ? I know that this has gotten long, but I thought it would be worth the bandwidth to warn long-time, habitual buyers from this company to examine the differences in prices between what you ordered two months ago and what you order today. ? Dave Wood |
Re: Cutting hardwood
Thanks Chris,
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most of the time i am cutting wood vertikal. Saw shapes... Howie --- In 4x6bandsaw@..., Chris Baugher <cbaugher_yahoo@b...> wrote: On Thu, 22 May 2003, howie_meier wrote:i am just bevore to by a 4x6bandsaw. I cut some steel and sometimesI've cut wood with my 4x6 and it works fine. It cuts slower because the |
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Re: Chinese fasteners and miscellaneous
r-evans4
The clamp to secure the work to be cut has a movable jaw. This jaw slides in a
slot which is machined into the base. Below it is a flat plate which slides below the slot. These two pieces are held together with a cap screw. When my saw arrived, I found that if I tightened down this cap screw, it made the movable jaw immovable. However, I made a metal spacer which fits between the movable jaw and the plate which slides below it. The spacer has a hole through it to accomodate the cap screw.By adjusting the thickness of the spacer I was able to tighten the cap screw fully, and still move the movable jaw back and forth. The bottom of the slot is not machined. You may have to barber some material off the bottom of the slot to allow the movable jaw+spacer+flat plate+cap screw to slide back and forth easily. Fortunately, I did not need to do this. I hope this expanded explanation helps. Rupert Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 02:19:54 -0000Rupert N. Evans 101 W Windsor Rd. #4107, Urbana, IL 61802-6697; 217-337-7833 Author of Book-On-Demand Publishing I love to print and bind books and make model stationary steam engines |
Re: Blade welders/jig
S. Foo
This rolled by a few weeks ago...
Might be of interest. --- In 4x6bandsaw@..., "Barry Nesheim" <wcbarry@h...> wrote: It seems to me that HSM and or MW at one time published a projectto make your own jig to braze saw blades.now exactly what issue..that I don't know,but surely there is someone in this group who has that info.. Wcbarry |
Re: Chinese fasteners and miscellaneous
r-evans4
It is not correct that all Chinese machine tools have metric fasteners. My HF
4x6 bandsaw has mostly fractional inch fasteners. The screws which form the pivot for the motor mount, however, have a bastard thread which is 1/2" diameter and fewer than 13 threads per inch. One of these screws was missing, but a 1/2-13 UNC cap screw fitted the sheet metal captive "nut." There is no stop to maintain the saw in an upright position. I took a seven-inch-long piece of 1/8 x 1 flat stock, drilled a #19 hole 1.25" from one end, laid it flat on the table near its end below the motor, pivoted it on an 8-32 screw tapped into the table, and filed a bit off the top of one corner. Now when the saw is vertical, I rotate this steel bar to fit one corner under the cast arm which holds the big spring. This locks the saw in a vertical position, and is out of the way during normal use. You need to make a spacer to fit above the clamp screw so that there is a minimum amount of slop in the movable vise jaw. My saw came with no spacer, so that the moveable vise jaw was immovable or floppy, depending on how tight its hold-down screw was adjusted. I braced the legs and put a 6-32 screw on the face of one leg to serve as a hanger for the saw table when it is not in use. Some people make a new table, but I find the one that was supplied to be adequate. After these mocifications, this is a better saw than the U.S. made Wells that I used in the shop many years ago. Rupert Rupert N. Evans 101 W Windsor Rd. #4107, Urbana, IL 61802-6697; 217-337-7833 Author of Book-On-Demand Publishing I love to print and bind books and make model stationary steam engines |
Re: Blade welders/jig
Barry Nesheim
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIt seems to me that HSM and or MW at one time published a project to make
your own jig to braze saw blades¡now exactly what issue..that I don't know,but
surely there is someone in this group who has that info..
Wcbarry
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Re: source for lennox diemaster II blades?
I live down in Trinidad, West Indies, so my source would be of little good to to anyone in North America. However, Lenox is a top manufacturer of saw blades so a little research (yellow pages, internet, etc.) would certainly turn up a dealer in your area.
Sorry I can't be of furthet help.
Cheers, Cletus 9Z4CLB
vaysam wrote: Would anybody like to share their source for lennox diemaster II WARNING: This electronic mail (E-mail) document may contain privileged information?intended for?the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and subsequently destroy the document/file. Unlawful copying and/or dissemination of the information/data contained herein may be treated as copyright infringement and prosecuted as such. Do you Yahoo!? - Faster. Easier. Bingo. |
Re: A sanity check
Chris Baugher
On Fri, 23 May 2003 sepost@... wrote:
I picked up one of these 4x6 saws from a local store the other day andWhat store did it come from? I have the HF 4x6. Comparing mine withYeah, most of the chinese tools are like that. My lathe was the same way. The blade support bearings aren't shiney, instead having minor scratchesMine are the same. The motor says 3/4hp on the cover plate.The motor that comes stock on the 4x6 is kindof a joke. I just looked on mine and it says 1 HP, which is absurd! They have a tendency to overheat. A couple weeks ago I bought a 1/3 HP replacement motor also from HF ($29.99), and it works way better; smoother, quieter, and cooler. The 1/3 HP is probably even realistic. Only thing is the new motor has a smaller shaft so I had to make a sleeve, but no big deal. It startsSomeone mentioned the capacitor, sounds like it to me also. I can turn the driven pulley by hand and it doesn'tYeah, definitely something with the motor. I'm taking the saw back to the store today for a replacement so I'll getThe HF is probably not a whole lot better. But the quality control on these Asian tools varies widely. Somethimes you get one that's perfect, other times you don't. If this is the kind of quality to expect regardless of importer then I'llEither way if you get one for around $200, it's worth every penny, even if it needs some tuning. It saves SO much time and energy. Even after having it for several months I still like to watch it while it's happily cutting away. I guess it's the simple things... C|
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Re: source for lennox diemaster II blades?
Ralph Meiser
--- In 4x6bandsaw@..., "vaysam" <vaysam@y...> wrote:
Would anybody like to share their source for lennox diemaster IIHere is a partial list of what J&L Industrial has available. You can find them at www.jlindustrial.com. The rule for blades is a minimum of 3 teeth in the part, so an 18 tooth will handle down to about 1/8" a 10/14 variable will handle up to about 3/8". I like the 6/10 variable for heavier stock, especially aluminum to get the chips out. Even at these prices these blades are a bargain because of theit longevity Ralph Meiser XFR-80157-L (99 %) 5' 4 X 1/2 X .0250 X 10/14T DIEMASTER BANDSAW BLADE MANUFACTURER: LENOX Price: $21.35/EA XFR-80159-C (99 %) 5' 4 X 1/2 X .0250 X 18T LENOX DIEMASTER BANDSAW BLADE MANUFACTURER: LENOX Price: $21.35/EA XFR-80366-J (99 %) 5' 4 X 1/2 X .0350 X 10T LENOX DIEMASTER BANDSAW BLADE MANUFACTURER: LENOX Price: $21.35/EA XFR-81448-C (99 %) 5' 4 X 1/2 X .0250 X 6/10T DIEMASTER BANDSAW BLADE MANUFACTURER: LENOX Price: $21.35/EA |
Re: Blade welders/jig
In a message dated 5/23/2003 9:09:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, driggars@... writes:
Any one know good places to look for the saw blade welders and jigs? I braze my blades and made a jig. The jig is only a block wider than as the blade with a space about 2 X 2 inches cut in the middle. The block is wider than the blade so screws can be drilled and tapped into the top.? Four holes for two clamps to hold the blade in place. I grind the ends of the blade to a bevel with a dremel tool put the blade under the clamps with the bevels touching. I take a short piece of silver solder and put it between the beveled ends (pounding the silver solder to almost foil thickness.) Adding flux and heat there is your blade all in one piece again. Use the Dremel to clean up any solder that got away from the joint. I think there are several outfits that make the clamps and come in a kit complete with silver solder foil and a gauge to grind the bevels. John in the high desert of California 12 inch Atlas Mini Mill Rusty file |
Re: A sanity check
In a message dated 5/23/2003 4:32:53 AM Pacific Standard Time, sepost@... writes:
Does HF do better quality control and use better fasteners and motors? From what I hear and see on the list, HF is not one of the best sources for Asian tools. It seems that buying tools from the normal importers is kind of a crap shoot. You may luck out and get a good one, or your luck can run the other way. |
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