Snag: Can you please describe the process of using Paypal to send a donation?? Where do/did you find this friends/family link to use? Thanks so much, be safe and well! Larry
Snag,
But I won't link it to any account but a Credit Card.
Leon Robinson ?? K5JLR
Political Correctness is a Political Disease.
Politicians and Diapers should be changed
often and for the same reasons.
On Wednesday, December 23, 2020, 9:41:46 PM CST, Terry Coombs < snagone@...> wrote:
On 12/23/2020 3:11 PM, Leon Robinson wrote:
> I am in the US, ?$10.00 was $10.59 with Friends & Family.
> Once I found how to send F&F.
>
>
> Leon Robinson ?K5JLR
>
? Leon - and other paypal users - I also used F&F to send my donation ,
BUT I sent from a linked bank account* rather than the listed debit card
. They did want a fee if I used the card , none for a payment straight
from the account .
? *We have a checking account that's designated for internet
transactions . It never has more than a couple hundred bucks unless I
transfer funds for a purchase .
--
Snag
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On 12/23/2020 10:06 PM, Leon Robinson wrote: Snag,
But I won't link it to any account but a Credit Card.
Leon Robinson ?? K5JLR
That's why we have a designated account for internet transactions . And that's all it's used for . Our media charges (Roku) and all paypal transactions , as well as debit card purchases from online vendors all come out of that one account . I have a standard monthly transfer from our main account to cover recurring charges plus a little , bigger purchases may require a manual transfer of funds . -- Snag
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Snag,
But I won't link it to any account but a Credit Card.
Leon Robinson ?? K5JLR
Political Correctness is a Political Disease.
Politicians and Diapers should be changed
often and for the same reasons.
On Wednesday, December 23, 2020, 9:41:46 PM CST, Terry Coombs <snagone@...> wrote:
On 12/23/2020 3:11 PM, Leon Robinson wrote:
> I am in the US, ?$10.00 was $10.59 with Friends & Family.
> Once I found how to send F&F.
>
>
> Leon Robinson ?K5JLR
>
? Leon - and other paypal users - I also used F&F to send my donation ,
BUT I sent from a linked bank account* rather than the listed debit card
. They did want a fee if I used the card , none for a payment straight
from the account .
? *We have a checking account that's designated for internet
transactions . It never has more than a couple hundred bucks unless I
transfer funds for a purchase .
--
Snag
|
On 12/23/2020 3:11 PM, Leon Robinson wrote: I am in the US, ?$10.00 was $10.59 with Friends & Family.
Once I found how to send F&F.
Leon Robinson ?K5JLR
Leon - and other paypal users - I also used F&F to send my donation , BUT I sent from a linked bank account* rather than the listed debit card . They did want a fee if I used the card , none for a payment straight from the account . *We have a checking account that's designated for internet transactions . It never has more than a couple hundred bucks unless I transfer funds for a purchase . -- Snag
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Re: lubrication of worm gear box
I don't have definitive answers on oil yet but here's what I know from literature and the testing I've done. The worm drive gearbox is a high friction device so needs good oil, and enough of it, or it heats up more quickly and wears the gears more rapidly.
1. Type of oil matters: ? ? a) 75W-90 full synthetic Polyalkene glycol (PAG) based oil is probably the best.? ? ? ? ? ?i) Literature indicates full synthetic gear oil reduces the friction?in worm?drives by 30%+ and reduces operating?temperatures by 70degF+ (20degC+) over mineral oils.? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ii) PAG synthetics effectively do not degrade with time (30x as stable as mineral oil) .? Once you change to it you never need to replace it. Synthetic Hydrocarbon? (SHC) based oils, (like Mobil1 SHC 600 series gear oils) are ~10x more stable than mineral oils, but not as good at lubricating nor as stable? as PAG's. ? ? ? ?iii) 75W-140 full synthetic?gear oil (Lucas Oil Products GL5) is too thick and foams.? I've got a clear plastic cover on my gearbox and the 75W-140 oil turned white almost instantly, where the 75W-90 (Red Line MT90 GL4) remained as oil with no entrainment of air.? Air/oil foam does not lubricate well.? Never would have known if hadn't had a clear cover. ? ? ? ?iv) 75W-90 gear oil is the same viscosity (flow when you pour it) as SAE15W to 20W engine oils while 75W-140 is closer to SAE60 engine oil .? There is no sensible reason why the engine oil and gear oil SAE viscosity scales are so different - they just are.? ? ? ? ? v) Red Line MT90 75W90 is the only fully PAG synthetic that I know of, but there are probably others. ? ? ? ?vi)
Red Line MT90
is about the same viscosity as?
Mobil1 SHC 626 or 627? ?? ? ? ? vii) Lucas Oil 75W-140 is about the viscosity of Mobil1 SHC 632 to 634 - so maybe these Mobil grades foam in the gearbox?too?? ?
2. The amount of oil matters.?? ? ? ? ? i) I used to use ~90ml of gear oil (mineral based GL4) and, when doing continuous cutting tests, the wear on the gear set got noticeably worse?
in the space of a day or two
(blade free up and down movement went from?5mm (~3/16") to 7mm), which started me experimenting with other oils and the amount of oil. ? ? ? ? ii) OEM factory fill is about 200ml, so it spills out if you take off the cover with the saw on its legs. To get 200ml in, you need to tip the saw sideways until it just about tips over. Fill to ~1/4" (6mm) below the edge of the gearbox with the rear RHS leg propped up on a dressed 2x4 (90x45mm) - NB Its almost at the tipping point - very unstable - get someone to help if possible. ? ? ? ? ii) It really helps to have a fill and drain plug in the cover? Easy to do with 3/8" (10mm) Lexan, like in the picture. Fill and drain plugs are the button-headed screws.? Fill with a 60ml syringe. ? ? ? ? ii)? I've compared the temperatures with 240ml vs 120 ml of 10W-40 engine oil and the saw
cutting continuously (as close as I could get).? The gearbox heated to 150degF (65degC) in 32min with?240ml of oil , but took only 16min to reach the same temperature with 120ml. (The heat is generated by the cutting - you can run a saw for hours without load and it heats up <10degF (<5degC)).
3. I'm no tribologist?either but I rather suspect the old days of brass-eating oils are over, at least in high spec synthetics.?? ? ? ? ? ?i) GL5 grade gear oils are not supposed to be 'yellow metal safe', where GL4's are. ? ? ? ? ii) I tested the Lucas Oil Products GL5 (which it says is a replacement for GL4 but doesn't mention 'yellow metal safe' anywhere on the bottle), by putting a piece of polished brass in a specimen jar
of oil, inside an insulated housing on top of my hot water?cylinder.? It's been at 100degF (38degC) for the last 9 months and is more tarnished above the oil level than below?it! (see pic).? No corrosion at all under the oil. ? ? ? ?iii) Be careful?about which grade you use, but it's?not all as cut&dried?as it used to be.
Hope this helps - jv
On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 10:35 AM Aaron Brace < abrace@...> wrote:
I used mobil SHC, its not cheap but the saw doesnt take much so
what the heck.
On 12/23/2020 3:50 PM, Bill in OKC too
via wrote:
I think he's asking which
lube is the best for the gear box. So far as I know, just
about any brand that meets specifications is good enough. If
you've got brass or bronze gears or bearings, the
yellow-metal safe additives are almost a necessity, but
otherwise, any lube is better than no lube. Nope, I'm not a
Tribologist. Just been doing of bit of mechanicing, on and
off, for much of the last 50 years. Automobiles,
high-performance fighter jets, home and industrial laundry
equipment, and satellite ground terminals. Lots of broad,
not much depth.?
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A
human being should be able to change a diaper,
plan an invasion,
butcher a hog,
conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet,
balance
accounts, build a
wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders,
cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a
new
problem, pitch
manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal,
fight
efficiently, die
gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG
(Robert A. Heinlein)
Consensus
on what Steve?
You've
used an old thread but there are no links back to
that thread on my screen- jv
On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 6:20 AM Steven
Greenfield AE7HD via
<alienrelics= [email protected]>
wrote:
So is
there a consensus on if either is better, or roughly
the same?
--
Steven J Greenfield?
AE7HD
|
Put a period between global and net.?
gary
On Wednesday, December 23, 2020, 05:49:58 PM CST, George Taylor, IV <gtaylor@...> wrote:
Bill, ? I¡¯m in for $10 but paypal can¡¯t find wmrmeyers@sbcglobalnet? I¡¯ll keep trying but I can use a mobile phone (so they tell me) ? George Taylor ?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of nitewatchman5
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 1:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] Upgraded the Group. ? Sent $15 ? $5 from me. ? $5 for the guy that promises and "forgets" ? $5 for the guy that wants to go to Facebook ? Have? Merry Christmas and stay safe. ? gary ? ? ? ? I was dumb enough to accept when Joe offered to make me an owner of the group. ;) Enough people have said they'd kick in $5 to keep the group going, and have more space, that I've gone ahead and upgraded. I fronted the $220 (not $200 as I thought it was) for the upgrade. Once my payment processes, we'll have 20gb of space for documents, photos, and attachments. If you want to help me out, my PayPal address is wmrmeyers@...?I can afford to pay $5, myself, so I need 43 donations of $5 via PayPal Friends and Family, or enough to cover the fees they charge if you don't want to do F&F. This gives us a year we don't have to worry too much about this, at least!
Bill in OKC
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Re: lubrication of worm gear box
John Vreede, I'm on digest, answering via the web interface. Apparently it doesn't include anything from the old thread. From the digest, there is a link to "View/Reply Online" and from there is a link to see the entire thread.
But here it is. There are two messages that started it, with two different lubricants. One half the price of the other.
/g/4x6bandsaw/topic/76503965
--
Steven J Greenfield?
AE7HD
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I'm in for 5... Best from the Great NorthLeftCoast! ap
On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 10:51 AM Bill in OKC too via <wmrmeyers= [email protected]> wrote: I was dumb enough to accept when Joe offered to make me an owner of the group. ;) Enough people have said they'd kick in $5 to keep the group going, and have more space, that I've gone ahead and upgraded. I fronted the $220 (not $200 as I thought it was) for the upgrade. Once my payment processes, we'll have 20gb of space for documents, photos, and attachments. If you want to help me out, my PayPal address is wmrmeyers@...?I can afford to pay $5, myself, so I need 43 donations of $5 via PayPal Friends and Family, or enough to cover the fees they charge if you don't want to do F&F. This gives us a year we don't have to worry too much about this, at least!
Bill in OKC
-- Allen-Paul Templet KE7PGD
Fox Island, WA
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Re: lubrication of worm gear box
I used mobil SHC, its not cheap but the saw doesnt take much so
what the heck.
On 12/23/2020 3:50 PM, Bill in OKC too
via groups.io wrote:
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I think he's asking which
lube is the best for the gear box. So far as I know, just
about any brand that meets specifications is good enough. If
you've got brass or bronze gears or bearings, the
yellow-metal safe additives are almost a necessity, but
otherwise, any lube is better than no lube. Nope, I'm not a
Tribologist. Just been doing of bit of mechanicing, on and
off, for much of the last 50 years. Automobiles,
high-performance fighter jets, home and industrial laundry
equipment, and satellite ground terminals. Lots of broad,
not much depth.?
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A
human being should be able to change a diaper,
plan an invasion,
butcher a hog,
conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet,
balance
accounts, build a
wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders,
cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a
new
problem, pitch
manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal,
fight
efficiently, die
gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG
(Robert A. Heinlein)
Consensus
on what Steve?
You've
used an old thread but there are no links back to
that thread on my screen- jv
On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 6:20 AM Steven
Greenfield AE7HD via
<alienrelics= [email protected]>
wrote:
So is
there a consensus on if either is better, or roughly
the same?
--
Steven J Greenfield?
AE7HD
|
I am in the US, ?$10.00 was $10.59 with Friends & Family.? Once I found how to send F&F.
Leon Robinson ?K5JLR
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-------- Original message -------- From: John Vreede <vreededesign@...> Date: 12/23/2020 2:32 PM (GMT-06:00) To: " [email protected] Group Moderators" < [email protected]> Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] Upgraded the Group. Wheeler - Only 9%?? I got charged 72.5%!? $10NZ + $7.25 fee and that was for the Friends option No wonder they were prepared to pay Elon that much for it Ahh... WTF - jv? On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 1:15 AM WHEELER GREEN < sparco505@...> wrote: Reason for not using paypal, a 9% surcharge to use the service. While it may not seem a lot, it adds up to the coffers of paypal.
FYI
Established in 1998 as Confinity,?PayPal?had its initial public offering in 2002. It became a wholly owned subsidiary of eBay later that year, valued at $1.5 billion.
...
PayPal.| Net?income | US$2.459 billion (2019) | | Total assets | US$51.333 billion (2019) | | Total equity | US$16.929 billion (2019) | | Number of employees | c. 21,800 (Dec. 2018 |
Wheeler
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 edge, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message -------- Date: 12/23/20 1:53 AM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] Upgraded the Group.
Sent $15
?
$5 from me.
?
$5 for the guy that promises and "forgets"
?
$5 for the guy that wants to go to Facebook
?
Have? Merry Christmas and stay safe.
?
gary
?
?
?
?
I was dumb enough to accept when Joe offered to make me an owner of the
group. ;) Enough people have said they'd kick in $5 to keep the group going,
and have more space, that I've gone ahead and upgraded. I fronted the $220 (not
$200 as I thought it was) for the upgrade. Once my payment processes, we'll
have 20gb of space for documents, photos, and attachments. If you want to help
me out, my PayPal address is wmrmeyers@...?I can afford to pay $5,
myself, so I need 43 donations of $5 via PayPal Friends and Family, or enough
to cover the fees they charge if you don't want to do F&F. This gives us a
year we don't have to worry too much about this, at least!
Bill in OKC
|
Re: lubrication of worm gear box
I think he's asking which lube is the best for the gear box. So far as I know, just about any brand that meets specifications is good enough. If you've got brass or bronze gears or bearings, the yellow-metal safe additives are almost a necessity, but otherwise, any lube is better than no lube. Nope, I'm not a Tribologist. Just been doing of bit of mechanicing, on and off, for much of the last 50 years. Automobiles, high-performance fighter jets, home and industrial laundry equipment, and satellite ground terminals. Lots of broad, not much depth.?
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, December 23, 2020, 02:36:46 PM CST, John Vreede <vreededesign@...> wrote:
Consensus on what Steve? You've used an old thread but there are no links back to that thread on my screen- jv On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 6:20 AM Steven Greenfield AE7HD via <alienrelics= [email protected]> wrote:
So is there a consensus on if either is better, or roughly the same?
--
Steven J Greenfield?
AE7HD
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Re: lubrication of worm gear box
I use this. Safe for brass/bronze and synthetic?
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Yikes! I don't know about anyone else, but I'd be perfectly happy to have to contribute what you know, and keep your money in your wallet.?
Dang, that's steep!
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, December 23, 2020, 02:33:06 PM CST, John Vreede <vreededesign@...> wrote:
Wheeler - Only 9%?? I got charged 72.5%!? $10NZ + $7.25 fee and that was for the Friends option No wonder they were prepared to pay Elon that much for it Ahh... WTF - jv?
On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 1:15 AM WHEELER GREEN < sparco505@...> wrote: Reason for not using paypal, a 9% surcharge to use the service. While it may not seem a lot, it adds up to the coffers of paypal.
FYI
Established in 1998 as Confinity,?PayPal?had its initial public offering in 2002. It became a wholly owned subsidiary of eBay later that year, valued at $1.5 billion.
...
PayPal.| Net?income | US$2.459 billion (2019) | | Total assets | US$51.333 billion (2019) | | Total equity | US$16.929 billion (2019) | | Number of employees | c. 21,800 (Dec. 2018 |
Wheeler
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 edge, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message -------- Date: 12/23/20 1:53 AM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] Upgraded the Group.
Sent $15
?
$5 from me.
?
$5 for the guy that promises and "forgets"
?
$5 for the guy that wants to go to Facebook
?
Have? Merry Christmas and stay safe.
?
gary
?
?
?
?
I was dumb enough to accept when Joe offered to make me an owner of the
group. ;) Enough people have said they'd kick in $5 to keep the group going,
and have more space, that I've gone ahead and upgraded. I fronted the $220 (not
$200 as I thought it was) for the upgrade. Once my payment processes, we'll
have 20gb of space for documents, photos, and attachments. If you want to help
me out, my PayPal address is wmrmeyers@...?I can afford to pay $5,
myself, so I need 43 donations of $5 via PayPal Friends and Family, or enough
to cover the fees they charge if you don't want to do F&F. This gives us a
year we don't have to worry too much about this, at least!
Bill in OKC
|
Re: lubrication of worm gear box
Consensus on what Steve? You've used an old thread but there are no links back to that thread on my screen- jv On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 6:20 AM Steven Greenfield AE7HD via <alienrelics= [email protected]> wrote:
So is there a consensus on if either is better, or roughly the same?
--
Steven J Greenfield?
AE7HD
|
Re: lubrication of worm gear box
It's about $24 at Grainger, which is where i last bought some. It was for work, so I don't have any at home, dangit! But it works well enough that I'd certainly buy it for my stuff once I'm ready to run the thing. I do have a Grainger's local to me, so don't have to pay for shipping. That does help.?
Bill in OKC
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Wheeler - Only 9%?? I got charged 72.5%!? $10NZ + $7.25 fee and that was for the Friends option No wonder they were prepared to pay Elon that much for it Ahh... WTF - jv?
On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 1:15 AM WHEELER GREEN < sparco505@...> wrote: Reason for not using paypal, a 9% surcharge to use the service. While it may not seem a lot, it adds up to the coffers of paypal.
FYI
Established in 1998 as Confinity,?PayPal?had its initial public offering in 2002. It became a wholly owned subsidiary of eBay later that year, valued at $1.5 billion.
...
PayPal.| Net?income | US$2.459 billion (2019) | | Total assets | US$51.333 billion (2019) | | Total equity | US$16.929 billion (2019) | | Number of employees | c. 21,800 (Dec. 2018 |
Wheeler
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 edge, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message -------- Date: 12/23/20 1:53 AM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] Upgraded the Group.
Sent $15
?
$5 from me.
?
$5 for the guy that promises and "forgets"
?
$5 for the guy that wants to go to Facebook
?
Have? Merry Christmas and stay safe.
?
gary
?
?
?
?
I was dumb enough to accept when Joe offered to make me an owner of the
group. ;) Enough people have said they'd kick in $5 to keep the group going,
and have more space, that I've gone ahead and upgraded. I fronted the $220 (not
$200 as I thought it was) for the upgrade. Once my payment processes, we'll
have 20gb of space for documents, photos, and attachments. If you want to help
me out, my PayPal address is wmrmeyers@...?I can afford to pay $5,
myself, so I need 43 donations of $5 via PayPal Friends and Family, or enough
to cover the fees they charge if you don't want to do F&F. This gives us a
year we don't have to worry too much about this, at least!
Bill in OKC
|
Should be a dot/period before the N in net.? I have almost enough in the paypal account for next year, too. I know a lot of folks are a little short, and if you're one of them, hopefully things will be better this time next year. If you still want to send $$, that's fine, and if you really shouldn't, that's fine, too.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, December 23, 2020, 02:00:45 PM CST, George Taylor, IV <gtaylor@...> wrote:
Bill, ? I¡¯m in for $10 but paypal can¡¯t find wmrmeyers@sbcglobalnet? I¡¯ll keep trying but I can use a mobile phone (so they tell me) ? George Taylor ?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of nitewatchman5
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 1:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] Upgraded the Group. ? Sent $15 ? $5 from me. ? $5 for the guy that promises and "forgets" ? $5 for the guy that wants to go to Facebook ? Have? Merry Christmas and stay safe. ? gary ? ? ? ? I was dumb enough to accept when Joe offered to make me an owner of the group. ;) Enough people have said they'd kick in $5 to keep the group going, and have more space, that I've gone ahead and upgraded. I fronted the $220 (not $200 as I thought it was) for the upgrade. Once my payment processes, we'll have 20gb of space for documents, photos, and attachments. If you want to help me out, my PayPal address is wmrmeyers@...?I can afford to pay $5, myself, so I need 43 donations of $5 via PayPal Friends and Family, or enough to cover the fees they charge if you don't want to do F&F. This gives us a year we don't have to worry too much about this, at least!
Bill in OKC
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Bill, ? I¡¯m in for $10 but paypal can¡¯t find wmrmeyers@sbcglobalnet? I¡¯ll keep trying but I can use a mobile phone (so they tell me) ? George Taylor ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of nitewatchman5
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 1:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] Upgraded the Group.? Sent $15 ? $5 from me. ? $5 for the guy that promises and "forgets" ? $5 for the guy that wants to go to Facebook ? Have? Merry Christmas and stay safe. ? gary ? ? ? ? I was dumb enough to accept when Joe offered to make me an owner of the group. ;) Enough people have said they'd kick in $5 to keep the group going, and have more space, that I've gone ahead and upgraded. I fronted the $220 (not $200 as I thought it was) for the upgrade. Once my payment processes, we'll have 20gb of space for documents, photos, and attachments. If you want to help me out, my PayPal address is wmrmeyers@...?I can afford to pay $5, myself, so I need 43 donations of $5 via PayPal Friends and Family, or enough to cover the fees they charge if you don't want to do F&F. This gives us a year we don't have to worry too much about this, at least!
Bill in OKC
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??? ??? well then , I guess I will have to monitor my dog's
internet usage more !
??? ??? animal
On 12/22/2020 9:42 PM, Bill in OKC too
via groups.io wrote:
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I disagree, Mike. I like
cat AND dogs. ;)
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A
human being should be able to change a diaper,
plan an invasion,
butcher a hog,
conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet,
balance
accounts, build a
wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders,
cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a
new
problem, pitch
manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal,
fight
efficiently, die
gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG
(Robert A. Heinlein)
On Tuesday, December 22, 2020, 06:17:43 PM CST, mike
allen <animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? dog pics can stay , no cat pics
??? ??? animal
On
12/22/2020 1:37 PM, Michael Conlee wrote:
just for fun, i added a photo to the test album.. it
worked.? now i need to delete it.? its a pic of my dog.
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John Vreede
Bill in OKC too