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Re: Hydralics On 4 X 6 Cheap
Richard Albers
--- In 4x6bandsaw@..., "rangerod" <rangerod@n...> wrote:
RAI'll certainly try. I hope you all understand that this is not yet quite at the top of my "to do" list, so it will be a while before you see anything. The site I purchased the unit from says its a air unit but itThat is good information to have. It may encourage others to try this item, even though it is advertised as an "air cylinder". I suppose this means you did not need to do any of the plumbing on the cylinder or the control valve? Pre-plumbed could be a good selling point for some 4x6 owners. I know it would be for me, if I didn't already have my parts. If I have too much trouble with getting the oil in and the air out, it still may be... ;-) RA |
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HF bandsaw for $99.99
I am a new member to this board, and I was reading where people got a
bandsaw from HF for the Homier price. I looked in the files and all I could find was a list of tools offered by Homier. When I tried to click on the link by the bandsaw, it wouldn't work. Is this list the thing you guys have been taking into the HF store? If not, could somebody email me the flier. I am planning on going up to the store tomorrow, so a quick response would be appreciated. Also if the list is what you are taking into the store, how does that work since there is no date on it. Thanks |
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Re: Gear Oil
Hi Bill - I just joined the other day...I'm planning on picking up a
HF 4x6 this weekend - $149 on sale! Woohoo! Regarding the gear oil change, is it pretty intuitive how much replacement oil to add? I'm planning on draining the gearbox and filling it back up with....90W? 75/140W? What's everyone recommend? Also, is there a a "fill line" or do I need to measure how much to replace in advance. Thanks! Jason --- In 4x6bandsaw@..., "Bill Jones" <WBJones@u...> wrote: Hi, I just joined last week right after I purchased a HF 4x6 at thechop saw.check mine out. It was about 30 degrees in the garage at the time. When Ithe consistency of grease gun grease. I used a putty knife to removemost of it then used a hair dryer to liquify the rest so it would draingear oil. Saw runs much smoother now and I feel a lot better about the |
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Re: Coolant system
thumbtrap43
--- In 4x6bandsaw@..., "rswooley49" <rsw49@B...> wrote:
I am in the process of building a new stand and adding a coolantI saw his plans too. The local welding shop sold me 16ga sheet that ran about $2 for the bandsaw stand and $6 for the mill/drill. I was going to attempt the 20 degree notches like he did - but that didn't work too well. I just clamped the sheet to the 2" sq tube stand I had welded up, and used a couple pieces of angle iron for a brake. Results were horrible. Then I found out a farm down the road had a big brake (and I'm learning all these farmers in the neighborhood are usually VERY happy to help out the guy in the neighborhood who just got a mill. :) Hope I'm not going too far in debt on favors here.) I had to notch my corners square because of the brake, but it bent up real purty. Fixing to go get some 16ga scrap to close em back up now. I considered piecing together a coolant system, but the HF one you guys are talking about is cheaper than almost any pump I've seen except the aquarium air pumps - and this doesn't look like I'd have enough vertical lift to make good use of an air lift system. I might cut the tube and add a manifold in later - but it looks like a good starting place. |
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Re: Hydralics On 4 X 6 Cheap
Allen Sparks
It's a oil filled unit
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Re: Hydralics On 4 X 6 Cheap
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýRA
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O.K. I understand what you are talking about,
sounds like a good idea. If you go that route can you give details & pics if
possible. The site I purchased the unit from says its a air unit but it really
sounds like there is hydro fluid in it & when I close the valve the head
stops suddenly with no "bounce". Glad to be of assistance.
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Rod
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Gear Oil
Hi, I just joined last week right after I purchased a HF 4x6 at the
Ft Collins, CO store. So far I am real happy with it. Cut up about 100 ft of 1/4 HR rod over the weekend and it really beats my 6" chop saw. Anyway after reading the posts about gear oil I decided I would check mine out. It was about 30 degrees in the garage at the time. When I opened the cover I found the most awful looking stuff I ever saw. A brown substance with what looked like white foam mixed in. It was the consistency of grease gun grease. I used a putty knife to remove most of it then used a hair dryer to liquify the rest so it would drain and wipe out. Then I filled the box with Amsoil 75-140 synthetic gear oil. Saw runs much smoother now and I feel a lot better about the gears lasting. Also new bi-metal 10-14 on order to arrive Monday. Great list with lots of useful information. Thanks...Bill |
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Re: Hydralics On 4 X 6 Cheap
Richard Albers
--- In 4x6bandsaw@..., "rangerod" <rangerod@n...> wrote:
RAMaybe I wasn't clear. I mean to mount the cylinder just the same as you did, but mount the control valve at or near the end of the saw with the vise wheel using flexible hoses. (Do they make them that small?) I hadn't checked the source before I replied, and I was assuming you used a hydraulic cylinder, not an air cylinder. The remote control mounting would work on either, but there is fewer messy details with air. Hydraulics will give a firmer (less bounce) control, however. I traded for a "real" hydraulic cylinder which I intend to use. Someday... Thanks for getting me thinking about this project. RA |
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Re: Hydralics On 4 X 6 Cheap
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýRA
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I don't know too much about hydraulic systems but I
do not believe it matters how the unit is orientated (vertical, horizontal,
angled ect...) All the saws that come with hydraulics are mounted on the
motor?end of the saw head.
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Rod
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Re: lennox 10-14 blades
way2phastphil
Try your local welding supply shop. The one I deal with gets the
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blades from a vendor, whatever length I want. It's not Lenox ( even thought they are made in the next town over) but they will not sell junk. I don't know what brand it is, but they are good. --- In 4x6bandsaw@..., "Steve Hebert" <swh@t...> wrote:
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Re: lennox 10-14 blades
BOB & CINDY WRIGHT
www.countrysaw.com This is where buy mine..Bob
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--- In 4x6bandsaw@..., "Steve Hebert" <swh@t...> wrote:
Where can these be purchased reasonably? |
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Re: Hydralics On 4 X 6 Cheap
Richard Albers
--- In 4x6bandsaw@..., Alan Rothenbush <alan@s...> wrote:
I think that the reason the cylinder is mounted the way it is, in most cases, is to get the air out of the system. It leaves the cylinder at either end through the upward-oriented fittings, and is removed at one of the fittings at the highest point in the system. (Would the originator (rangerod?) comment on this?) I would try to mount the control at the end of the saw instead, (near the wheel for the vise) using some flexible hoses to connect it to the cylinder. That may make it more convenient to adjust even if you (I) don't need the extra clearance. I'm getting excited about putting one of these on my own saw! RA |
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Re: Hydralics On 4 X 6 Cheap
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIn a message dated 1/28/2004 1:52:44 AM US Mountain Standard Time, rralbers@... writes:
? I think that the reason the cylinder is mounted the way it is, ***
I don't think these units are actually hydraulic, but an air spring, like the hood and hatch units on cars. The difference is it has external plumbing to allow the gas to bypass the piston rather than being compressed. As described on the website it was made for an exercise machine. It really doesn't make any difference, except it would work in any position.
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Nice project and great refinement for the machine IMHO.
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As a newcomer to the list, a little info:
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I actually use a Milwaukee "Portaband" (I know that is a Porter Cable name) on a table mount wt. pipe legs. The restriction of course is it is horiz. only and has a capacity of 4.25" X 4.25". So far it serves my purpose. May have to join the big boys someday.
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Jim, Glendale, AZ
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Re: Hydralics On 4 X 6 Cheap
Kerry Pinkerton
You're welcome Rod. I ordered two of these cylinders, one for my HF 4x6 and
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one for a large wellsaw. I haven't gotten either mounted yet. Kerryp KaP Imperial Services - Patch Panels, Metalshaping, Restoration Manufacturer of high quality Wheeling Machines ----- Original Message -----
From: "rangerod1" <rangerod@...> To: <4x6bandsaw@...> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 10:02 PM Subject: [4x6bandsaw] Hydralics On 4 X 6 Cheap Hey guys just uploaded some pics of the hydralic unit I just added to --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (). Version: 6.0.564 / Virus Database: 356 - Release Date: 1/20/04 |
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Re: Hydralics On 4 X 6 Cheap
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýSteve
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The hydraulic unit just regulates the amount weight
of the saw head that you want to allow?on to the blade, the unit does not
create any kind of pressure.
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Rod
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Re: Hydralics On 4 X 6 Cheap
Steve Hebert
thanks, Rod
Another basic question. Does the hydraulic unit actually put the pressure on the blade or allow control of weight placed on the sawhead. TIA, Steve --- In 4x6bandsaw@..., "rangerod" <rangerod@n...> wrote: Stevework on getting one. The hydraulic unit is what is used for sporting equipment like stair steppers, I'll post the site I purchased it from below. Definitely get a Lennox 10-14 bi-metal blade you won't regret it. They cut way faster & last longer than the carbon steel blade the saw came with.
UID=2004010606153329&catname=&qty=1&item=1-1554 Is that hydraulic cyl a door closer? sorry to be so out of it, but Iblades cut faster or just last longer than the one that came on the saw?to work pretty good.wrote: > Hey guys just uploaded some pics of the hydralic unit I justadded tome onNext the---------- Yahoo! Groups LinksService. |
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Re: Hydralics On 4 X 6 Cheap
Alan Rothenbush
On Sunday 25 January 2004 22:18, rangerod wrote:
3. The reason you can't mount it that way is the hydro unit will beAhh, yes, of course. My stand looks a little bit like only without the upper tray (and not nearly so pretty). It's made from 2" x 2" x 3/16" angle iron, meaning the stand weigh about as much as the saw; what possessed me to use such material is entirely beyond me. The saw simply sits on the end rails. I have a plastic tupperware tray right underneath to catch all the badness. I might take a crack at rotating the cylinder 90 degrees, so the plumbing is out of the way, but still above the top of the stand. The adjustment will then be facing down, but a bit of Rube Goldberg might fix that. I have seen the hydro units mounted in front by using the bolts onThe cylinder is then vertical ? Alan -- Alan Rothenbush Academic Computing Services Simon Fraser University Burnaby, B.C., Canada Before me things create were none, save things Eternal, and eternal I endure. All hope abandon ye who enter here. |
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