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I don't understand some people!

Javier Perez All Messages By This Member #15422
Michael Khan All Messages By This Member #15423 I suppose it is an almost genuine Contax. :-) Just that it's made in Kiev after the war.? I am not aware that bona fide Contax IIs had the Zeiss Logo engraved below the focusing wheel.. And anyway, why would the engraving be "Carl Zeiss Jena"? The Contax II came from Dresden.? Then the logo engraved on the lens cap differs from that on the camera body. And what's with the focal length of that "Sonnar"? "f=5sm"? sentimeters?
Steve All Messages By This Member #15424 开云体育 Looking in my 1939 copy of 'Contax Photography', some early Contaxes had the 'ZEISS IKON' logo to the right of the RF window.? I can only assume this person is trying to fake a Jena Contax (in which case the Carl Zeiss Jena logo should be in the accessory shoe.)? But the 'donor' camera is a Kiev 4a from what I can see with the revised back locks etc.? Unfortunately someone may be taken in by it.... Cheers, Steve
Michael Khan All Messages By This Member #15425 This article by Henry Scherer is of relevance in the context of this discussion: Someone should fix a "nice try" comment to the ebay ad. Perhaps the seller is genuinely unaware of the true pedigree of the camera he is trying to sell.? If he insists, then he should be reported to ebay.
Michael Khan All Messages By This Member #15426 PS, note that the seller has a positive feedback rate on ebay of only 95%, which is frankly terrible. Buyers should be aware of the risks (all they have to do is to click on the profile) and if they are not, they will learn the hard way. I see that there are numerous instances of complaints that the seller tried to conclude deals outside of ebay. This normally constitutes grounds for ebay to terminate the contract they have with him.?
Javier Perez All Messages By This Member #15427 I sent him a 5 dollar offer with a note saying "You realize that's a Kiev" He sent me a counter offer for 369! He sells shutter curtains and other photo related stuff. On Monday, March 2, 2020, 06:20:53 AM EST, Michael Khan <mkk707@...> wrote: PS, note that the seller has a positive feedback rate on ebay of only 95%, which is frankly terrible. Buyers should be aware of the risks (all they have to do is to click on the profile) and if they are not, they will learn the hard way. I see that there are numerous instances of complaints that the seller tried to conclude deals outside of ebay. This normally constitutes grounds for ebay to terminate the contract they have with him.?
gphemy All Messages By This Member #15428 To judge by some of the other items that seller has on offer which are marked "Cambridgeworld", he is either 1) linked to [the former] Cambridge Camera in New York; or 2) is stealing images from them. In either case, he is unaware that Cambridge Camera has a stellar reputation for underhand sales tactics, of which switch and bait is probably the least unsavoury. Oh and by the way, that user name "Blatworld"? - "blat" is Russian criminal slang for "connections" of the type which get you undeserved advantage. Stay well away - I would be surprised if any buyer received so much as a Kiev camera from this listing!
Mike Cohen All Messages By This Member #15429 You should have countered with $4. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Mon, 2 Mar 2020, 13:34 Javier Perez via Groups.Io, <summarex=[email protected]> wrote: I sent him a 5 dollar offer with a note saying "You realize that's a Kiev" He sent me a counter offer for 369! He sells shutter curtains and other photo related stuff. On Monday, March 2, 2020, 06:20:53 AM EST, Michael Khan <mkk707@...> wrote: PS, note that the seller has a positive feedback rate on ebay of only 95%, which is frankly terrible. Buyers should be aware of the risks (all they have to do is to click on the profile) and if they are not, they will learn the hard way. I see that there are numerous instances of complaints that the seller tried to conclude deals outside of ebay. This normally constitutes grounds for ebay to terminate the contract they have with him.?
Javier Perez All Messages By This Member #15430 I know! I'm thinking maybe the guy doesn't read the comments attached to the offers. Javier On Monday, March 2, 2020, 12:06:17 PM EST, Mike Cohen <mike.cohen44@...> wrote: You should have countered with $4. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Mon, 2 Mar 2020, 13:34 Javier Perez via Groups.Io, <summarex=[email protected]> wrote: I sent him a 5 dollar offer with a note saying "You realize that's a Kiev" He sent me a counter offer for 369! He sells shutter curtains and other photo related stuff. On Monday, March 2, 2020, 06:20:53 AM EST, Michael Khan <mkk707@...> wrote: PS, note that the seller has a positive feedback rate on ebay of only 95%, which is frankly terrible. Buyers should be aware of the risks (all they have to do is to click on the profile) and if they are not, they will learn the hard way. I see that there are numerous instances of complaints that the seller tried to conclude deals outside of ebay. This normally constitutes grounds for ebay to terminate the contract they have with him.?
Michael Moffatt All Messages By This Member #15431 Stuff like this makes me mad. I just wonder whether he had no idea and overpaid for it himself. Now just trying to offload the thing... Here it is again (same lens serial). A higher asking price and this time under "Cambridgeworld". You get a top down photo: Regards, Michael Moffatt. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 2/03/20 6:25 pm, Javier Perez via Groups.Io wrote: I know! I'm thinking maybe the guy doesn't read the comments attached to the offers. Javier On Monday, March 2, 2020, 12:06:17 PM EST, Mike Cohen <mike.cohen44@...> wrote: You should have countered with $4. On Mon, 2 Mar 2020, 13:34 Javier Perez via Groups.Io, <summarex@... <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I sent him a 5 dollar offer with a note saying "You realize that's a Kiev" He sent me a counter offer for 369! He sells shutter curtains and other photo related stuff. On Monday, March 2, 2020, 06:20:53 AM EST, Michael Khan <mkk707@... <mailto:mkk707@...>> wrote: PS, note that the seller has a positive feedback rate on ebay of only 95%, which is frankly terrible. Buyers should be aware of the risks (all they have to do is to click on the profile) and if they are not, they will learn the hard way. I see that there are numerous instances of complaints that the seller tried to conclude deals outside of ebay. This normally constitutes grounds for ebay to terminate the contract they have with him.
Javier Perez All Messages By This Member #15432 Hi I'm betting this guy is aware of what he's doing. I sent him a message indicating it wasn't a Contax but he didn't reply. Javier On Monday, March 2, 2020, 04:06:56 PM EST, Michael Moffatt <groups.io@...> wrote: Stuff like this makes me mad. I just wonder whether he had no idea and overpaid for it himself. Now just trying to offload the thing... Here it is again (same lens serial). A higher asking price and this time under "Cambridgeworld". You get a top down photo: Regards, Michael Moffatt. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 2/03/20 6:25 pm, Javier Perez via Groups.Io wrote: > > I know! > I'm thinking maybe the guy doesn't read the comments attached to the offers. > Javier > On Monday, March 2, 2020, 12:06:17 PM EST, Mike Cohen > <mike.cohen44@...> wrote: > > > You should have countered with $4. > > On Mon, 2 Mar 2020, 13:34 Javier Perez via Groups.Io, > <summarex=[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > >? ? I sent him a 5 dollar offer with a note saying "You realize that's a >? ? Kiev" >? ? He sent me a counter offer for 369! > >? ? He sells shutter curtains and other photo related stuff. >? ? On Monday, March 2, 2020, 06:20:53 AM EST, Michael Khan >? ? <mkk707@... <mailto:mkk707@...>> wrote: > > >? ? PS, note that the seller has a positive feedback rate on ebay of >? ? only 95%, which is frankly terrible. Buyers should be aware of the >? ? risks (all they have to do is to click on the profile) and if they >? ? are not, they will learn the hard way. I see that there are numerous >? ? instances of complaints that the seller tried to conclude deals >? ? outside of ebay. This normally constitutes grounds for ebay to >? ? terminate the contract they have with him. > >
Maes Dirk All Messages By This Member #15433 To all decent and honest people out there.? It is no use making our selfs mad. even if you get the seller off ?the Internet within 10 seconds it will be advertised on 200 different accounts .? And for all the people who get? scammed , sorry but ignorance in not an excuse, consider it a lesson learned, and move on. We just have to except that honest people? are getting very few and are far in between. The only weapon we have is knowledge and instead of putting energy in complaining, lets start educating our selfs and make sure others get educated. In that way these vultures whom pray on the ignorant? ? will no longer have a chance.? ? I know harsh words? but that is how the world is these days.? Been there done that. Vriendelijke Groet? Dirk Maes toggle quoted message Show quoted text ------ Original Message ------ From: "Javier Perez via Groups.Io" <summarex@...> To: [email protected] Sent: 3/3/2020 12:02:09 AM Subject: Re: [ZICG] I don't understand some people! Hi I'm betting this guy is aware of what he's doing. I sent him a message indicating it wasn't a Contax but he didn't reply. Javier On Monday, March 2, 2020, 04:06:56 PM EST, Michael Moffatt <groups.io@...> wrote: Stuff like this makes me mad. I just wonder whether he had no idea and overpaid for it himself. Now just trying to offload the thing... Here it is again (same lens serial). A higher asking price and this time under "Cambridgeworld". You get a top down photo: Regards, Michael Moffatt. On 2/03/20 6:25 pm, Javier Perez via Groups.Io wrote: > > I know! > I'm thinking maybe the guy doesn't read the comments attached to the offers. > Javier > On Monday, March 2, 2020, 12:06:17 PM EST, Mike Cohen > <mike.cohen44@...> wrote: > > > You should have countered with $4. > > On Mon, 2 Mar 2020, 13:34 Javier Perez via Groups.Io, > <summarex=[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > >? ? I sent him a 5 dollar offer with a note saying "You realize that's a >? ? Kiev" >? ? He sent me a counter offer for 369! > >? ? He sells shutter curtains and other photo related stuff. >? ? On Monday, March 2, 2020, 06:20:53 AM EST, Michael Khan >? ? <mkk707@... <mailto:mkk707@...>> wrote: > > >? ? PS, note that the seller has a positive feedback rate on ebay of >? ? only 95%, which is frankly terrible. Buyers should be aware of the >? ? risks (all they have to do is to click on the profile) and if they >? ? are not, they will learn the hard way. I see that there are numerous >? ? instances of complaints that the seller tried to conclude deals >? ? outside of ebay. This normally constitutes grounds for ebay to >? ? terminate the contract they have with him. > >
Michael Khan All Messages By This Member #15434 I don't think such exaggerations are helpful. It's not true that "honest people are few and far between". That is not my experience at all, not even on ebay.? That said, the motto is "caveat emptor", as always. The PC sync terminal on a pre-war camera design such as that offered "Contax II from Jena" should be a dead giveaway to anyone who knows even a bit about vintage cameras. If any collector of vintage cameras doesn't even know that much he deserves to be duped.? But I'd be surprised if there were any takers for that camera. So in the end no real harm is done. I find that clumsy forgery rather amusing.?

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