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Re: PTT locking up
开云体育Paul;This leads to a few questions - when is EEPROM written? Are there triggers, if so, what? I have a specific sequence for powering off my station - Power off the K3s (both with KIO3As), then power off the supplies. I have two Astron 35A linear supplies, one for each K3 station, which includes KPA500 and KAT500, BPFs, etc. The supplies are wire-ORed using a 20A dual schottky diode device which allows for either supply to power the common devices. The output of this device feeds power to the SO2R+ box, Elecraft W2 Power/SWR box and a few other things. ?Since most things are powered down before the SO2R+ box, it makes sense that there is a very slow voltage decay. I have had very few issues with the SO2R+ box for many years until just a few months ago, which is about the time I actually started using it in SO2R mode. The problem manifested itself as Mike describes, SO2R+ unit holding PTT low, but to just one radio. Using the SO2R+ utility to reset EEPROM fixed it both times it occurred. I changed my power-down process to switch off the SO2R+ box when I power off the K3s, and have not seen a recurrence since. If you need some testing done, I am willing, but not until after CW WW.? Thanks! Jack, W6FB
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N1MM configuration of SO2R with 2 Yaesu 101MP
I have difficulties with configuration of my SO2R station with 2 Yaesu 101MP radios and I am wondering if N1MM allows 2 radios with 2 receivers. Every time I try to sync the two receivers on one of the radios, both radios change to the same frequency, which becomes a conflict. I can set the configuration in DXLog to work but not in N1MM. If anybody could give me a hint I would appreciate.? Thank you,? Alex AK1MD |
Re: PTT locking up
Hi Mike, I suspect that under some circumstances if the voltage drops slowly the microprocessor gets into a state where it is running but there is not enough voltage to properly write EEPROM.? If it happens to be writing EEPROM when the power supply voltage is dropping it can corrupt EEPROM.? It doesn't happen often enough that I can diagnose it. If it happens to you fairly often then I might be able to write some diagnostic code that would run in the microprocessor and give me more data.? With that information I might be able to figure out why the brownout circuit isn't preventing this. ??? Paul, K1XM On Fri, Nov 15, 2024 at 3:54?AM Mike W9RE via <mjwetzel=[email protected]> wrote:
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PTT locking up
Paul,
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on Nov 11 I ran into this situation:
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I was setting up vm (dvr voice messages) on two K4Ds on Saturday. ?Using TRLinux and a YCCC SO2R Box + (this right probably only applies to two or three stations). ?VM were set up and I was testing what would stop a vm if I got a response on a radio. ?Normally an Alt-R would do this and it did fine. ?So I am remembering how if you hit the PTT (foot switch) with a K4D that will stop a vm. ?Well I tried that. ?What happened had me puzzled for 1/2 an hour. ?I lost audio on both radios. ?I was in Test Mode and when I hit M1 on either radio the radio would swing wildly in/out of transmit but I could not hear any audio (monitor was turned up) and still no rx audio. ?I tried rebooting the radios with the same thing happening. Finally after a while I found that the PTT was held low by my SO2R Box to both radios. ?Rebooting the SO2R Box fixed the problem.?
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Now tonight Nov 14 I had this happen:
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I was in a little bit of a hurry tonight getting things turned on and then ran into a big problem.? Whenever I would key a radio they would go into transmit and not come out.? I ran into this thing last week before the SSB Sprint and corrected it by rebooting the? SO2R box but this time it didn't work.? I guess I will have to reflash my SO2R box
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W6FB replied:
I had this issue with my SO2R+ box a few weeks ago. I believe it was caused by killing power on the box instead of flipping the front panel power switch to off.
The solution was to bring up the SO2R Utility and reset the box, which resets the eeprom to default values. It worked until the next time I powered it off by?
killing the main +12V supply. I again reset the EEPROM with the utility and it has worked fine ever since.?
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I learned my lesson, I now power it on and off with the front power switch, then when it is off, power off the main 12V supply.
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73!
Jack,W6FB
So before I reflash is there anything I should look for using the utility so I can pinpoint what happened?? I have always just killed power and I have not used the switch on the SO2R Box.
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Thanks,
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Mike W9RE
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Re: SO2R box utility bug
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Hi Paul,
All seems to be good.? I looks like the PSU went to protection / Vout goes to zero and would not recover unless the load was removed.
Very strange but this one was not a cheap switching PSU, rather a 317 or 7812 type for the regulation.
Thanks everybody?for the advice!
Markku
OG2A
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Paul Young <k1xm@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2024 7:51 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [yccc-so2r] SO2R box utility bug ?
Intermittent failures are the most difficult to find.? I'm glad you got it.
??? Paul
On Wed, Oct 9, 2024 at 11:09?AM Markku Oksanen <markku.a.oksanen@...> wrote:
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Re: SO2R box utility bug
Intermittent failures are the most difficult to find.? I'm glad you got it. ??? Paul On Wed, Oct 9, 2024 at 11:09?AM Markku Oksanen <markku.a.oksanen@...> wrote:
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Re: SO2R box utility bug
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Aand..
As is traditional, the problem is never the actual device.
My apologies for taking the BW.
The "wall wart" PSU had a strange, intermittent failure, all was good for over 10 years but now it glitches to either 0 volts or something and then the YCCC box goes nuts.
Markku
OG2A/OH2RA/WW1C
ps
I probably find out that this is not true in the morning....?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Markku Oksanen <markku.a.oksanen@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 7:49 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [yccc-so2r] SO2R box utility bug ?
I got back to this.
I re-did my N1MM setup with all the necessary SW pieces in between the YCCC box and and N1MM.
It takes some tens of minutes and then the connection is again lost.? Power OFF/ON fixes it.
Next, must check PSU....? This is HW problem from the looks of it.
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Markku
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Re: SO2R box utility bug
If you conclude that the SO2R Box has a hardware problem let me know what you find and I'll try to help debug it. ??? Paul On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 12:49?PM Markku Oksanen <markku.a.oksanen@...> wrote:
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Re: SO2R box utility bug
I got back to this.
I re-did my N1MM setup with all the necessary SW pieces in between the YCCC box and and N1MM.
It takes some tens of minutes and then the connection is again lost.? Power OFF/ON fixes it.
Next, must check PSU....? This is HW problem from the looks of it.
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Markku |
Re: PTT assertion
I'm not sure I understand.? What is activating PTT when you send the phone message?? It may be possible to add something to the SO2R Box program but I need to understand it better.? If it is mode specific that may be a problem because the SO2R Box doesn't know the mode. ??? Paul On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 10:17?AM Mike W9RE via <mjwetzel=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: SO2R box utility bug
SO2R state 0x07 means that TX2 is selected, RX2 is selected, and Stereo is selected.? That is what you are setting so it is correct. The only things I can think of are that the SO2R Box firmware is corrupt or that something is wrong with the computer.? I suggest you re-install the firmware on the SO2R Box.? You can do this with the utility.? If that doesn't work can you try it with another computer? ??? Paul, K1XM On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 3:05?AM Markku Oksanen <markku.a.oksanen@...> wrote:
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Re: SO2R box utility bug
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Hi
Now I can see what the OTHER HW glitch is.? When I press Stereo, PTT is set and this is seen in my other interface card based control HW.
IT is NOT a HID device conflict as the control HW is connected to another PC, however it watches PTT.? This is PTT that goes first to the radio from the SO2R box and then my own HW.
Now, I can consistently make the SO2R box lose connection by pushing Stereo, in verbose it says received SO2R state 0x07, then device removed.? Every 3-4 disconnects the connection recovers on its own, I mean the device removed is followed by device added.?
Pressing connect recovers funtion.
I failed to mention that I am running WIN7 Ultimate X64.
Thanks
Markku
OG2A
From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Paul Young <k1xm@...>
Sent:?Thursday, September 26, 2024 12:52 AM To:[email protected] <[email protected]> Subject:?Re: [yccc-so2r] SO2R box utility bug ?
I don't think the utility has a way to save the log.? It is pretty old.? The best thing to do is to take a snapshot of the window.
??? Paul
On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 12:05?PM Markku Oksanen <markku.a.oksanen@...> wrote:
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Re: SO2R box utility bug
I don't think the utility has a way to save the log.? It is pretty old.? The best thing to do is to take a snapshot of the window. ??? Paul On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 12:05?PM Markku Oksanen <markku.a.oksanen@...> wrote:
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Re: SO2R box utility bug
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Really looks like I must have an other HID device on my system that "likes not" the SO2R box connection.
How could I figure out ?what it is??
Markku
From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Markku Oksanen <markku.a.oksanen@...>
Sent:?Wednesday, September 25, 2024 5:44 PM To:[email protected] <[email protected]> Subject:?Re: [yccc-so2r] SO2R box utility bug ?
Hi
Just turned things OFF.
Did verbose
However the SW is not supporting copy/paste for this email.
Is there a log to send?
Click RX R2, TX R2.
Click Stereo
HOWever, I see that one OTHER SW on my setup sees a glitch with recovery for that HW and all is well afterwards.
This is a interface card by velleman.
Perhaps this is a particular local issue.
Is there a way to make sure the the HID devices for sure have different addrs/whatever??
Markku
From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Paul Young <k1xm@...>
Sent:?Wednesday, September 25, 2024 5:27 PM To:[email protected] <[email protected]> Subject:?Re: [yccc-so2r] SO2R box utility bug ?
I just tried the same steps and it worked with my SO2R Box.? I am running the same utility and firmware versions.
Could you click verbose Output on the SO2R Box Utility and then try those steps agan?? You can send the output directly to me rather than to the group.
??? Paul, K1XM
On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 10:18?AM Markku Oksanen <markku.a.oksanen@...> wrote:
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Re: SO2R box utility bug
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Hi
Just turned things OFF.
Did verbose
However the SW is not supporting copy/paste for this email.
Is there a log to send?
Click RX R2, TX R2.
Click Stereo
HOWever, I see that one OTHER SW on my setup sees a glitch with recovery for that HW and all is well afterwards.
This is a interface card by velleman.
Perhaps this is a particular local issue.
Is there a way to make sure the the HID devices for sure have different addrs/whatever??
Markku
From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Paul Young <k1xm@...>
Sent:?Wednesday, September 25, 2024 5:27 PM To:[email protected] <[email protected]> Subject:?Re: [yccc-so2r] SO2R box utility bug ?
I just tried the same steps and it worked with my SO2R Box.? I am running the same utility and firmware versions.
Could you click verbose Output on the SO2R Box Utility and then try those steps agan?? You can send the output directly to me rather than to the group.
??? Paul, K1XM
On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 10:18?AM Markku Oksanen <markku.a.oksanen@...> wrote:
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Re: SO2R box utility bug
I just tried the same steps and it worked with my SO2R Box.? I am running the same utility and firmware versions. Could you click verbose Output on the SO2R Box Utility and then try those steps agan?? You can send the output directly to me rather than to the group. ??? Paul, K1XM On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 10:18?AM Markku Oksanen <markku.a.oksanen@...> wrote:
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Re: SO2R box utility bug
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Hi Paul,
Well this is what IT support should look?like ?:
I am using firmware 1.6.0 and the utility says version 1.8.0.
I just did the reset, it says
Device removed
Device attached
And when I click "connect" I get connected + SO2R box version 1.6.0.
I click on RX Radio 2
TX Radio 2
Then click Stereo.
I get Device removed.
Trying "connect" says Not Connected.
Turning the HW off allows me to get the Connected SO2RBox Version 2..6.-0.
I changed a bit of wiring such that my remote AC switch turns off ALSO this box, so I am OK for now.
Thanks!
Markku
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Re: SO2R box utility bug
开云体育
Hi Paul,
Well this is what IT support should look?like ?:
I am using firmware 1.6.0 and the utility says version 1.8.0.
I just did the reset, it says
Device removed
Device attached
And when I click "connect" I get connected + SO2R box version 1.6.0.
I click on RX Radio 2
TX Radio 2
Then click Stereo.
I get Device removed.
Trying "connect" says Not Connected.
Turning the HW off allows me to get the Connected SO2RBox Version 2..6.-0.
I changed a bit of wiring such that my remote AC switch turns off ALSO this box, so I am OK for now.
Thanks!
Markku
From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Paul Young <k1xm@...>
Sent:?Wednesday, September 25, 2024 3:29 PM To:[email protected] <[email protected]> Subject:?Re: [yccc-so2r] SO2R box utility bug ?
I just tried this with an SO2R Box.? Clicking Stereo causes it to receive from both radios.? So I cannot reproduce this problem.
What version of the SO2R Box firmware are you using?
You might try resetting the SO2R Box to the default settings using the Reset button at the bottom right of the SO2R Box Utility window.
Another thing to try is using the SO2R Box program.? If you do not check the SO2R, Pipes, or TCP/IP boxes it will show a set of? check boxes which can be used to select the receiver and transmitter.? Does it work if you select Stereo
this way?
??? Paul, K1XM
??? Paul, K1XM
On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 8:23?AM Markku Oksanen <markku.a.oksanen@...> wrote:
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PTT assertion
Paul,
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Here is a situation that I just ran into and I am sure I am the only one with it.? Setup: TRLinux 0.49, SO2R Box +, K4D, using voice memories in K4D, foot switch connected to SO2R Box (PTT).
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Works 100% on CW when using a foot switch/PTT to initiate memories? (foot switch can be selected in TRLinux to act as hitting F1, swapping radios, enter key, etc.).? But since the K4D stops the voice memory from playing when a PTT signal is seen using a foot switch won't start a voice memory? (because of the strobe PTT closure signal that is seen by the radio).? If I unplug the PTT line going to the radio it works fine.? I have been in contact with Tree and TVBob on this issue.? I believe it worked fine with a K3 but the addition of interrupting a vm with a closure from a foot switch on the K4D is what has caused this happening.?
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By chance you don't have any suggestions on this?? Is there anything in the SO2R utility that could change the operation on ssb?
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Tnx for your quick and continued support,
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Mike W9RE |
Re: SO2R box utility bug
I just tried this with an SO2R Box.? Clicking Stereo causes it to receive from both radios.? So I cannot reproduce this problem. What version of the SO2R Box firmware are you using? You might try resetting the SO2R Box to the default settings using the Reset button at the bottom right of the SO2R Box Utility window. Another thing to try is using the SO2R Box program.? If you do not check the SO2R, Pipes, or TCP/IP boxes it will show a set of? check boxes which can be used to select the receiver and transmitter.? Does it work if you select Stereo this way? ??? Paul, K1XM ??? Paul, K1XM On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 8:23?AM Markku Oksanen <markku.a.oksanen@...> wrote:
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