Samuel Roberts Yates 1862-1923

16 March 2023

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Hi Ronald. I am the daughter of John Haskins Yates (1897 – 1962). My paternal grandfather is Samuel Robert Yates,(1862-1923) and my paternal great grandfather is John Milton Yates. I have been trying to determine who my great, great grandfather is.

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I see you have him in your tree as John Yates, married to Therissa Magdallen Newton (1824-1899). Others have my great, great grandfather listed as Michael Yates who married Rachel Briggs. Is there any documentation that has John Milton Yates birth family on it? I have searched and searched.

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Also, I don’t see you showing up as a DNA match. have you taken the DNA test? And if so, where? We should be matching as cousins, right? Thanks a bunch! Cheryl XXX (born Yates)

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16 March 2023

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Hello Cheryl,

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I am conducting a study now based on Yates cousins and suggested ancestral lines to advance beyond the brick-walls.. It is based on the theory that if many of my Yates cousins are connected to an ancestral line then it suggests that I may be too.? Here are more details how I am doing this…?

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Michael Wayne XXX is a Yates cousin sharing 22 cM’s through one of my Yates cousins: a link to Mike data.

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Glenn Leroy XXX is my Yates cousin: here is how he and I connect:

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I am telling you this because Michael’s ancestral line flows through John Yates and Newton.? This is abbreviated but this is the line:

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I47549RichardAshendon1440+JohnHyde1471+ThomasWhyte1509+FrancisTichborne1541+ThomasStephens1570+JohnTattersall1612+GeorgeWells1639+GeorgeWarfield1674+GeorgeGuiney1693+GeorgeLewis1727+JohnGaines1750+JohnMitchell1775+JohnNewton1820+JohnCox1849+SarahYatesBowles1872+ClintonBowling1897+AgnesBowlesGrissom1921+Mike1947

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If you study the details, you could replicate the process; I also would be pleased to take a look at your matches. I hope this helps.? Regards, Ron

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16 March 2023

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Cheryl, remember these are the ancestral lines of your Yates DNA cousins; doesn’t it make sense that if several of your cousins have specific Yates ancestors and you are their DNA cousin then wouldn’t it suggest that you also could-likely are DNA related to the same ancestors.

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I quickly looked at about 15 of your Yates matches and pulled out their ancestral lines; your job is to identify those cousins who may share the same ancestral lines.? This is not foolproof but does give you a guidepost to further your research for your older ancestors which I understand is your interest.

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This approach has been transformative for our group of cousin researchers.

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I hope this helps just a little bit.? With kind regards, Ron Yates

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Sarah Yates was born in 1775 in Culpepper, Virginia (daughter of John Yates and Elizabeth Betsey Gaines); died in 1834 in Adair, Kentucky. Sarah married Peter Estes on 26 May 1792 in Culpepper, Virginia. Peter (son of John Estes and Mary Marshall) was born on 5 Sep 1771 in Caroline, Virginia; died in 1838 in Bridgeport, Adair, Kentucky. Children: John Yates Estes was born in 1793 in Culpepper, Virginia; died on 7 Apr 1855 in Adair, Kentucky. Mary

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Martin Yates, Jr. was born in 1700 in St. Mary’s, Maryland (son of Martin Yates, Sr. and Elizabeth Dabridgecourt); died in 1776 in St. Mary’s, Maryland. Martin married Anna Maria French in 1725 in Maryland. Anna was born in 1702 in Maryland. Children: Edward Yates was born in 1729 in St. Mary’s, Maryland; died on 9 Nov 1809. Martin Yates was born in 1735 in St. Mary’s, Maryland; died on 11 May 1803 in St. Mary’s, Maryland.

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Isaac John Yates was born in 1852 in Henderson, Kentucky (son of George Washington Yates and Priscilla Durham); died in 1916. Isaac married Annie Marie Shelton on 24 Apr 1872 in Webster, Kentucky. Annie (daughter of George Bailey Shelton) was born on 10 Jul 1855; died on 27 Jan 1940. Children: Uriel Bailey Yates was born on 19 Sep 1874; died on 12 Sep 1934. Dillie Bell Yates was born on 2 Jan 1877; died on 18 Jun 1962. Issac Finley Yates was born

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John Yates was born on 2 Jul 1750 in Caroline, Virginia (son of George Yates, 4th and Frances Fielding Lewis); died on 4 Jul 1823 in Adair, Kentucky. John married Elizabeth Betsey Gaines in 1772 in Culpepper, Virginia. Elizabeth (daughter of Francis Gaines and Dorothy Boswell) was born in 1757 in Caroline, Virginia; died in 1820 in Adair, Kentucky. Children: George Woodford Yates, Sr. was born on 2 Jul 1773 in Culpepper, Virginia; died in 1835 in

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John Yates was born on 2 Jul 1750 in Caroline, Virginia (son of George Yates, 4th and Frances Fielding Lewis); died on 4 Jul 1823 in Adair, Kentucky. John married Elizabeth Betsey Gaines in 1772 in Culpepper, Virginia. Elizabeth (daughter of Francis Gaines and Dorothy Boswell) was born in 1757 in Caroline, Virginia; died in 1820 in Adair, Kentucky. Children: George Woodford Yates, Sr. was born on 2 Jul 1773 in Culpepper, Virginia; died in 1835 in

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Martha L. Yates was born in 1759 in Caroline, Virginia (daughter of Michael Yates, MD and Martha Patsy Marshall); died in 1820 in Kentucky. Martha married William Marshall Estes in 1778 in Culpepper, Virginia. William (son of John Estes and Mary Marshall) was born on 6 Aug 1755 in Culpepper, Virginia; died on 29 Aug 1810 in Barren, Kentucky. Children: Mary Ann Estes was born in 1778 in Culpepper, Virginia. James Estes was born in 1781 in Kentucky

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Samuel Robert Yates was born on 9 Dec 1862 in Green Co., Kentucky (son of John Milton Yates and Therissa Magdallen Newton); died on 1 May 1923 in Butler, Ohio; was buried in Middletown Historical Pioneer Cemetery, Butler, Ohio. Family/Spouse: Idell Hogland. Idell was born in 1870 in Kentucky. Children: Willie Yates was born in Nov 1888 in Kentucky. Mattie S. Yates was born on 2 Jun 1890 in Taylor, Kentucky; died on 21 Apr 1976 in Lincoln, Kentuck

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John Yates, Sr. was born in Mar 1753 in Pittsylvania, Virginia (son of John Yates and Elizabeth Kilgore); died on 16 Dec 1835 in Wilkes, North Carolina. John married Jemima Roper on 8 Mar 1779 in Caswell, North Carolina. Jemima (daughter of James David Roper and Sarah Ann Yates) was born on 22 Oct 1755 in Orange, North Carolina; died on 2 May 1853 in Wilkes, North Carolina. Children: John Yates, Jr. was born in 1780 in Wilkes, North Carolina; die

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Catherine Yates was born on 24 Jun 1706 in Virginia (daughter of Rev Bartholomew Yates and Sarah Stanard); died on 5 Oct 1738 in Virginia. Catherine married John Walker on 10 May 1733 in Virginia. John was born about 1706; died in 1745 in Virginia. Children: Sarah Walker was born on 30 Jun 1734 in Virgina. Clara Walker was born on 7 Sep 1737 in Virgina. Generation: 2 2. Rev Bartholomew Yates was born on 24 Aug 1676 in Donnington, Telford and

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Catherine Yates was born on 24 Jun 1706 in Virginia (daughter of Rev Bartholomew Yates and Sarah Stanard); died on 5 Oct 1738 in Virginia. Catherine married John Walker on 10 May 1733 in Virginia. John was born about 1706; died in 1745 in Virginia. Children: Sarah Walker was born on 30 Jun 1734 in Virgina. Clara Walker was born on 7 Sep 1737 in Virgina. Generation: 2 2. Rev Bartholomew Yates was born on 24 Aug 1676 in Donnington, Telford and

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Martha L. Yates was born in 1759 in Caroline, Virginia (daughter of Michael Yates, MD and Martha Patsy Marshall); died in 1820 in Kentucky. Martha married William Marshall Estes in 1778 in Culpepper, Virginia. William (son of John Estes and Mary Marshall) was born on 6 Aug 1755 in Culpepper, Virginia; died on 29 Aug 1810 in Barren, Kentucky. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart] Children: Mary Ann Estes was born in 1778 in Culpepper, Virginia. James Estes was born in 1781 in Kentucky

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Mary A. Yates was born on 17 Jul 1863 in Maryland (daughter of Anthony Mattey Sanders Yates and Mary Frances Drury); died on 6 Jan 1927 in Maryland. Family/Spouse: Thomas David Raley. Thomas was born in 1860 in Maryland; died in 1950 in Maryland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart] Generation: 2 2. Anthony Mattey Sanders Yates was born on 18 Feb 1838 in Maryland (son of Martin Yates and Mary E. Hayden); died on 3 Mar 1889 in Maryland. Anthony married Mary Frances Drury. Mary wa

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Mary A. Yates was born on 17 Jul 1863 in Maryland (daughter of Anthony Mattey Sanders Yates and Mary Frances Drury); died on 6 Jan 1927 in Maryland. Family/Spouse: Thomas David Raley. Thomas was born in 1860 in Maryland; died in 1950 in Maryland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart] Generation: 2 2. Anthony Mattey Sanders Yates was born on 18 Feb 1838 in Maryland (son of Martin Yates and Mary E. Hayden); died on 3 Mar 1889 in Maryland. Anthony married Mary Frances Drury. Mary wa

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Lydia Yates was born in 1712 in North Carolina (daughter of James Yates, Speculation). Family/Spouse: Thomas Kilgore. Thomas was born in 1715; died in 1822 in Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart] Children: Elizabeth Kilgore was born in 1718 in Bedford, Virginia; died on 3 Feb 1793 in Pittsylvania, Virginia. Robert Kilgore was born in 1735; died on 21 Dec 1782. Lydia Ann Kilgore was born in 1770 in North Carolina; died on 25 Jan 1853 in Robertson, Tennessee. Generation: 2 2. James Ya

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17 March 2023

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Thanks Ron, this helps tremendously! You really created this fast. Thanks again… Cheryl

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Sunday 19 March 2023

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This may be an advancement in the evaluation process; as Cheryl mentioned, I was able to do it quickly. The key was I already had researched each of her lines in question and had the data in my database. Creating the line is the time consumer; so, if we can make progress riding on the work already done, that’s great!

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