The Yates name and all it's variances world-wide

Re: I AM DONE! Behold the "DNA Cousin Surname App":

john.yates@... (John H. Yates) — Mon, 09 Oct 2023 08:57:42 -0700

Great work Ron! If you do a Zoom, I'm in! I am suffering from retirement
advanced ADD with too many projects open and too few completed! :-)
Otherwise, all is well!

John

Re: I AM DONE! Behold the "DNA Cousin Surname App":

cgirtain@... (Christine Girtain) — Sun, 08 Oct 2023 12:16:39 -0700

I would love to schedule a zoom for you to walk me through this. So proud of your work!!

I AM DONE! Behold the "DNA Cousin Surname App":

yatesvilleron@... (Ron Yates) — Sun, 08 Oct 2023 11:57:17 -0700

The "DNA Cousin Surname App" provides a streamlined link to trace the intricate Yates lineage. Utilizing modern DNA match analysis combined with traditional genealogical research, the app offers an in-depth look into ancestry up to five generations back with suggested linkage to lines of the Medieval period created by historical research and solid traditional genealogy processes.

DNA match technology aids in identifying potential descendants of these lines, particularly within the 5th generation bracket. It is important to note that this begins with a DNA match then a sub-sort for a surname. Each study participant will have their DNA Yates matches with associated distant ancestors. Thereafter, these same matches are grouped together for comparative recursive sorting to aid in identifying the greater sense of how Yates lines developed and migrated.

Every individual within the Yates ancestral line is assigned a unique ID, which also serves as a direct link to the supporting genealogy website for the Yates one-name study. Additionally, each match now contains the amount of shared centimorgans and a streamlined ancestral line only containing the direct Yates ancestor.

A score is currently showing but I may remove it; it is an algorithm I created to score and dilute out the specific Yates line from all the different family branches.

We currently have 400 lines showing and with this App I am working on going up to 1,000. Why, volume matters when making suggestions and when doing something unconventional. "Maybe he is right"?

In any case, I am using it daily and often. Me? I think it is beautiful, but that's me...lol

https://yates.one-name.net/gengen/yates-dna-ancestral-index.htm

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Ron Yates #9019
Yates name registrant
Guild of one-name-studies
London, England

on-going work update via an email to a UK researcher

yatesvilleron@... (Ron Yates) — Thu, 13 Jul 2023 09:52:17 -0700

Hello Christopher,

(https://berksfhs.org/events/use-of-dna-in-medieval-research/)

Thank you for your response. I appreciate your interest in breaking through brick walls in genealogical research and your understanding of the effort required to do so. Your email has inspired me to add a new section to my Yates one-name-study, where I will clarify the study's aim and declare the known understandings and limitations of autosomal DNA testing. By focusing on my own study and its applicability, I hope to provide meaningful insights that could also benefit others.

I wholeheartedly acknowledge and embrace all the known and unknown limitations of autosomal testing. I would add that some lines in genealogical research can be fictional, while others may have ill intentions, such as phishing scams targeting amateur family genealogists.

The primary goal of the Yates Cousin Study is to apply data analytics techniques to a specific dataset. I have been exploring the possibility of using an analytical approach on a vast set of DNA matches to uncover any valuable insights. I must clarify that I am not an exceptional research genealogist or a data expert. My background lies in being a retired hospital administrator with a master's in public health. However, I draw inspiration from a consulting project I previously conducted with the Fair Isaac Corporation, renowned for their utilization of "Big Data" and mathematical algorithms to predict consumer behavior, which has transformed entire industries.

The Fair Isaac staff once shared an intriguing finding from a deep dive into "Best Buy" sales data. Through an inexplicable algorithm, they accurately predicted customers' future purchases and provided recommendations that led to a 20% increase in sales the following year. This experience from two decades ago sparked my curiosity—could a similar approach be applied to overcome the brick walls in my own research?

I was uncertain but decided to give it a try. What you have seen so far are the preliminary results of my first-generation analysis. Admittedly, the data is complex and messy. My objective was not to make predictions, but rather to discover connections and correlations within the existing data.

All participants in the testing phase who granted access to their DNA matches have USA-based lineage. Interestingly, 74% of the 375 ancestral lines in the dataset connect to the Yate(s) family of Berkshire, UK. An important question that needs addressed by a data analyst is how much data frequency (number of ancestral lines) within a dataset is necessary to filter out false data interference, considering the known understandings and limitations of autosomal DNA testing. The answer remains elusive at this stage, but it is certainly more than the 375 lines included in the current index.

The question of frequency defines the aim of the ongoing second-generation work. To address the limitations of consumer autosomal testing, we are working on a Python scripting solution that will allow the automatic generation of unique ancestral lines from any GEDCOM file.

We plan to add an additional element—a lone source item in each applicable record of a software program—to the GEDCOM, which can be edited by the user. This addition will likely be a numerical value representing different DNA testing services, such as 1 for an agnostic DNA match, 2 for an Ancestry DNA match, 3 for a 23&Me DNA match, 4 for an FTDNA DNA match, and so on.

Upon successful implementation of this scripting solution, several benefits will be realized. Firstly, processing a complete GEDCOM will take only about 25 seconds, a significant improvement compared to the six months of manual labor previously required. Secondly, a GEDCOM file with the aforementioned numbering scheme will allow for the coding and sorting of all contents, enabling the user to cross-reference multiple family lines based on their imagination alone. Furthermore, this approach eliminates the restriction of relying solely on Ancestry.com matches, as GEDCOMs from various sources can be processed. However, the quality of the research and sourcing within the GEDCOM remains the responsibility of the user—garbage in, garbage out.

Looking ahead, the third generation of our study will involve exploring the concept of Most Distant Ancestors. With numerous descendants, determining the number of authentic lines leading to Most Distant Ancestors becomes a significant question. Additionally, we are considering the creation of an index comprising impeccably researched ancestral family lines to serve as a guidepost for future research.

During my six months of line development, I frequently encountered DNA matches with incomplete family trees, requiring me to reconstruct them to the best of my abilities. As I progressed, it became apparent that I could identify ancillary lines and that the line I was constructing often led to a Most Distant Ancestor already developed by another researcher. If done accurately and based on meticulously researched lines, this approach could assist future DNA matches in considering the correct ancestral line—a spin-off concept similar to Ancestry.com's Hint system.

I hope this provides you with a review of my work and the direction I am taking. If you have any further questions or would like additional information, please do not hesitate to ask.

Best regards,

Ron Yates

Charlotte, North Carolina

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Ron Yates #9019
Yates name registrant
Guild of one-name-studies
London, England

Re: The formal part of the Yates Cousin DNA Study has concluded.

Wishccr@... (Pamela) — Mon, 05 Jun 2023 15:52:09 -0700

Hello Ron,

What an accomplishment! I look forward to digging into this more fully in the coming months. Thank you so much for all of your hard work and dedication!

Warm regards,

Pamela Wishard Tremblay

The formal part of the Yates Cousin DNA Study has concluded.

yatesvilleron@... (Ron Yates) — Thu, 01 Jun 2023 13:26:29 -0700

Hello everyone!

The formal part of the Yates Cousin DNA Study has concluded. I am grateful and want to thank the twenty cousins and others who gave me access to their DNA matches generating 375 unduplicated Yates ancestral lines to study. We have achieved much more than anticipated with this study.

Although the formal part is over, the effort to improve and extend what we have started will never truly be done if someone is willing to work on it. The effort began with a thought borne out of desperation as to not having useful actionable DNA information.

We now have the basis of a “Yates Cousin DNA Ancestral Index��. The purpose of this index is to assist you in connecting your Yates ancestor tree. If you find your ancestor in either the MDA column (most distant ancestor) or the LCA column (last common ancestor) you will be able to connect your Yates line based on DNA connections. A LUNY# (Line Unique Number Yates) has been assigned to each line of Yates ancestors and their descendants which allows for referencing this Index and specifically your ancestral line.

The index has been created in such a way that newly unmasked ancestral lines can be added and assigned their own LUNY#. The other features include that this index is accessible world-wide and will be preserved forever by the Guild of one-name-studies.

I will add an image showing your name code and the LUNY#’s associated with your DNA matches. More importantly, if you access the index with the provided link you will be able to also see how you and your DNA matches fit into the overall pattern of Yates ancestral lines, please try the sorting.

In the immediate future there will be an effort to audit the lines to ensure correctness to the best of our ability and revise the white paper draft now that we have learned more and have a usable final project.

Please accept my personal thanks for helping me do this crazy project!

tinyurl.com/Yates-Cousin-DNA-Index

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Ron Yates #9019
Yates name registrant
Guild of one-name-studies
London, England

Re: England-Saturday 30 March 2024-Saturday 13 April 2024

john.yates@... (John H. Yates) — Fri, 26 May 2023 11:56:34 -0700

Enjoy, and good luck hunting!

Just a reminder: the passenger goes in the driver's seat,
and the car goes on the wrong side of the road!

John

England-Saturday 30 March 2024-Saturday 13 April 2024

yatesvilleron@... (Ron Yates) — Fri, 26 May 2023 07:38:14 -0700

Saturday 30 March 2024-Saturday 13 April 2024

These dates are now confirmed for Tim and Ron Yates. We have also confirmed our lodging for the full period at Long House Farm in Charney Bassett, England. Charney Bassett and nearby Lyford, England is considered the ancestral home for most of the Yates family in our DNA pool.

We will have a small 4-passenger vehicle for transportation. It is our intent to soak up the environment leisurely, visit several historic and interesting places and do a handful of touristy activities. Geographically we will be in a triangle area roughly out west from London, Oxford, Stratford-upon-Avon, and south to Bath and Portsmouth. So, day trips galore!

We know of one person who may join us for part of the time. We are publishing our intent should you also be interested in sharing some of your time with us. We have listed lodging options on our trip webpage:

https://yates.one-name.net/people/12.htm

We will have one or more GO-Pro cameras as well as the usual iPhone snaps and videos. No promises on quantity or quality…lol

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Ron Yates #9019
Yates name registrant
Guild of one-name-studies
London, England

Yates, one-name-study- now on Cyndi's list

yatesvilleron@... (Ron Yates) — Tue, 09 May 2023 13:26:18 -0700

Dear Ron Yates,

Thank you for choosing CyndisList.com. This email is to inform you that the link you submitted, https://yates.one-name.net/, has been approved. Your submission is appreciated. I hope you will tell others about the directory, as well as submit more sites in the future.

Now that your site is included in Cyndi's List please consider adding a reciprocal link on your site. https://www.CyndisList.com/create-a-link-to-cyndis-list/

Thank you for using Cyndi's List,

Cyndi Ingle
Owner, Cyndi's List
cyndi@...
https://www.CyndisList.com

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Ron Yates #9019
Yates name registrant
Guild of one-name-studies
London, England

Lt. Bartholomew Yates Birth: 1759 Gloucester County Virginia, USA Death: Jan. 9, 1777, Princeton

yatesvilleron@... (Ron Yates) — Wed, 03 May 2023 10:36:19 -0700

Ancestor’s: https://tinyurl.com/2o7k9qry

Lt. Bartholomew Yates Birth: 1759 Gloucester County Virginia, USA Death: Jan. 9, 1777, Princeton Mercer County New Jersey, USA

By the end of December 1776, Washington's immediate army had shrunk from casualties, disease, desertion, and the termination of enlistments to about 2,500 men fit for duty. In the hope of seizing another morale victory, if not a strategic one, Washington decided on a daring attack on Hessian troops at Trenton, New Jersey.

In the early morning hours of December 26, Washington's small band, including the First Virginia, crossed the Delaware River, reaching the outskirts of Trenton about 8:00 am. The surprised Hessians tried in vain to hold off the Americans, but by 9:45 am the Germans were forced to surrender. Within a few days of the American victory at Trenton, British troops marched to the town to engage Washington's small army. The two armies began firing on each other across a creek, but darkness soon put an end to the fighting.

When dawn arrived the next morning, the British were surprised to find that Washington's army had quietly pulled out in the dark. The Continentals had marched all night to the village of Princeton where they stumbled into a British force just setting out for Trenton. The Americans were divided into two groups, with the Virginians part of Green's division under Gen. Hugh Mercer, guarding the road to Trenton.

The remaining Americans proceeded to attack Princeton from the west. Col. Mawhood's two British regiments had already departed Princeton when Mercer's troops were spotted behind them. The British turned back toward Princeton and engaged Mercer's troops. With about 300 men on each side facing one another, the British soon charged with bayonets. Mercer was one of the first to fall victim to the bayonet charge.

Twenty-one-year-old Captain John Fleming of the First Virginia rallied the Regiment but was soon killed, and 18-year-old 2nd Lieutenant Bartholomew Yates was mortally wounded on January 3, 1777, and died 6 days later.

Family links: Parents: Robert Yates (1715 - 1761) Mary Elizabeth Randolph Yates (1729 - 1768) Sibling: Bartholomew Yates (1759 - 1777) Catharine Randolph Yates Wellford (1760 �� 1831)

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Ron Yates #9019
Yates name registrant
Guild of one-name-studies
London, England

Photos, PDF's and GEDCOM's, Oh My!!

yatesvilleron@... (Ron Yates) — Tue, 25 Apr 2023 12:49:02 -0700

If you want to add content, simply contact me. Technology allows you to send me a GEDCOM, photos, files and PDF's. If you send it, I understand you are sharing to allow me to use it in the study, either as knowledge or display.

The TNG system can host several GEDCOMs allowing you to access your own tree line using these features. This data will also be preserved forever. Information and photos can be nicely put into a web page that might help others and be interesting. The blog feature is a nice place to create a story or remembrance to share with others. Again, preserved forever.

GEDCOMS (Genealogical Data Communication) are special output of Ancestry.com trees or of your genealogy software. They are created by either downloading from Ancestry.com or by the process of exporting in your software, these are two main examples. They are current as of the last time you created it; to add more recent information you simply create a new GEDCOM. It can be important to share and preserve your genealogy information using software techniques; these processes are substitutes for the hand-written family trees someone always had at those family reunions.

The Yates one-name-study will agree to add your valuable work into its collection using this GEDCOM process. A separate tree will be created in the TNG software to host and display your GEDCOM. In this way you will preserve, share and display your valuable work using all the features of the website. There are many features of TNG that prove helpful in understanding our ancestor's lives.

Easy Share and Manage GEDCOMS Process

To successfully accomplish this goal of helping preserve your work and do it in a way that is easy, predictable, routine and recoverable a simple procedure has been created:

1. You create and save a GEDCOM deciding what information will be included. TNG automatically protects the living and marked private individuals.

2. A tree will be created for you on the TNG system and the tree will be named as follows: yates-?. You can specify what other name is meaningful to you. For example, we have a tree for James Yates and Agnes Webster and the tree name is yates-webster.

3. A TNG administrator will import your submitted GEDCOM into your named tree. In the background we will save your tree in a folder on the Yates one-name-study website to preserve your current GEDCOM and provide for the ability to recover, if needed.

4. To give you the ability to upload and attach photos to people in your GEDCOM relevant to this study would require access to the administrative panel of the website. It can be assured that doing so creates an unwanted exponential level of complexity for all. The compromise is this, if you have a Yates relevant image, I will need to add it to the base tree. The reason for this is the image is associated with the person and the media links are imported via GEDCOM. If you want to send one item with a file name including the person and individual ID# I will add it as time allows.

5. If you want to have a tree via GEDCOM, you must be a subscriber to the Yates io group. It is planned that we will update all GEDCOM's quarterly, if needed. An alert will be sent to all Yates io members that if they want to update their tree it is time to prepare and share their GEDCOM. And the easiest way to do that is via the share function below as many GEDCOM will not move over email because of size.

As with many things, this process sounds complicated and stuffy; we are trying to keep it easy for all. If you have a question just pop it on over and we will do our best to help.

To send me something, https://yates.one-name.net/contribute.htm

It is our name, not mine; everything you see here, or you contribute, will be preserved and accessible forever, by the Guild. This preservation feature is the number 1 reason you might contribute. Many times, our years of collecting are lost when we die. This is your chance to avoid that.

Teacher of the Year in the Rose Garden Today

yatesvilleron@... (Ron Yates) — Mon, 24 Apr 2023 15:02:59 -0700

Yates_familyGrpSheets

yatesvilleron@... (Ron Yates) — Sun, 23 Apr 2023 11:07:29 -0700

Hello, several years ago I purchased all the Yates family group sheets that had been completed by family members and provided to William Yates of the Yates Publishing Co. He mined many of these things and compiled them into other booklets that could be purchased. The family group sheets were the source documents and they are available here for you now: https://yates.one-name.net/imagealbums/Yates_familyGrpSheets/album/index.html All 650 pages in an accessible manner.

Regards, Ron

Adlai Robin Yates, Special Collections, Clemson University

yatesvilleron@... (Ron Yates) — Sun, 23 Apr 2023 07:50:51 -0700

I live in Charlotte, North Carolina so Clemson University is not too far from me. In my Yates quest for better information, I discovered and visited the Adlai Robin Yates collection. I took my trusty scanner, and they allowed me to scan to my heart’s content. The answer is 354 pages; the question was how many pages could Ron scan in two days?

Adlai was a model researcher, and the collection has many tips and clues about things that we now pursue. While scanning I couldn’t wait to get home and study what I had scanned. It may have been 5-7 years ago now and I still haven’t mined it for information. The format was not helpful to grab my attention.

So, this is my way of making it easier and accessible to others: https://yates.one-name.net/imagealbums/AdlaiRobinYates/album/album/index.html

Regards, Ron

https://yates.one-name.net/index.htm

Yates one-name-study genealogy website

yatesvilleron@... (Ron Yates) — Wed, 19 Apr 2023 18:30:13 -0700

I am letting you know we have a temporary glitch under repair with the TNG genealogy website which holds our database at Yates one-name-study. This is the first of this kind of problem I have encountered after 20 years of using the website software. Currently I have it in maintenance status until open for business again.

Fortunately, the website I used over the 20 years is maintained and is a 100% identical content with a little bit of different look. For any of you who might have some kind of search emergency, you can find what you need at: https://yatesville.net/tng/

Ron Yates

Re: Yates in 38th Indiana Volunteers Infantry

cgirtain@... (Christine Girtain) — Tue, 18 Apr 2023 13:26:31 -0700

That is very cool.

Yates in 38th Indiana Volunteers Infantry

yatesvilleron@... (Ron Yates) — Tue, 18 Apr 2023 10:29:53 -0700

Bless our record keepers! We are fortunate to have Roberta Toby as a member; we have worked together on Crawford, Indiana matters for many years.

She is the Crawford, Indiana County Historian and has been integral in their archives. She always amazes me with what she can find. Today’s find is no exception.

When the US Civil War began, recruitment began, and large groups of men signed up developing the pattern of many family members served in the same regiments. The best comparison now, I think, is how members of a community join and serve in a local reserve unit. When those units are activated, they then find themselves serving in harm’s way with friend and family members. This pattern of serving provides some unique opportunities and downsides. Think of how this affected communities during the multiple unit activations during the recent conflicts with US involvement in the Middle East.

In today’s case, Roberta has sent important records filed with the county by the veteran as to their service. Brothers John Yates (1825) and Daniel Yates (1822) traveled like many others to Alton, Indiana on the shores of the Ohio river and enlisted together. The two records are source documents for 1863 just after the retaking of Chattanooga by the Union and in 1865 with Daniel’s final discharge home.

Daniel’s brother John (my GG Grandfather likely filed a similar record for 1863. John did not survive the war. Because of an administrative oversight, he was arrested in August 1863 and was court martialed for desertion. He was permanently discharged for medical reasons and sent home. But his military command structure was not told of the discharge. Fortunately, he was wise enough to file his discharge papers with the County records department and all was resolved by this filing:

Headquarters Louisville

Barracks, Louisville, KY

January 7^th, 1863

The bearor thereof, John Yates, a Private of Capt. Sexton's Company "K" 38th Regiment Indiana Volunteers,age 37 years, 6 feet high, fair complexion, blue eyes, brown hair, and by profession a farmer born in the state of Indiana and enlisted at Camp Noble in the State of Indiana on the __ day ___ eighteen hundred and sixtyone, to serve for the period of three years, having filed at these Headquarters Certificates of disability, approved by the Medical Director of this Department, for his discharge from the service of the United States, which cannot be hereafter for want of Descriptive Roll and account of pay and clothing; the said at his own request and by order of Brigadier General Hugh Boyle Ewing Commanding Western Division of KY is permitted to go to his his home at Grantsburg in the County of Crawford Sate of Indiana. And there to remain until his discharge can be completed which will be duly transmitted to him through the mail. Subsistence has been furnished to the said John Yates to the 7th day January 1863, And, transportation from _______ to _________.

Given under my hand at Louisville Kentucky, this 7th day of January 1863.

Marcellus Mundy

Colonel 23rd Kentucky Volunteers

Commanding Post

I have compared this with the original in the hands of John Yates and certify that it is a true copy.

J.B. Merriweather,

Provost Marshall

2nd District Indiana

Your access to the on-line database

yatesvilleron@... (Ron Yates) — Tue, 18 Apr 2023 09:15:22 -0700

I am giving the group immediate access to the features of our on-line website database.

https://yates.one-name.net/tng/index.php

Username: guest-user

Password: i@T@LSswK82I

Allow to view abbreviated names of living individuals;

Allow to download GEDCOMs;

Allow to download PDFs;

Allow to view LDS information;

Allow CSV downloads for reports;

Create many versions of ancestors, descendants, calculate relationships from tabs found on the individual page.

Everyone in the database is associated with an ID number; for example, I am I1, my father is I3 and my mother is I7, all created by software. You are likely in this database, or can be, so look yourself up.

Regards, Ron

Re: Joseph Yates, a ship’s carpenter, b. 1750, who married Sarah Atmar

yatesvilleron@... (Ron Yates) — Mon, 17 Apr 2023 10:20:30 -0700

Completely understandable, I also must look at the data and ask myself what this stuff tells me…lol

I have attached your file to Joseph in our master on-line genealogy program available at this link:

https://yates.one-name.net/tng/getperson.php?personID=I24411&tree=010

This on-line program is part of the hosting and preservation program of the Guild. It means that whatever we save and upload to it will be there for all access as long as the Guild exists.

I plan to do a Beta Test on possibly hosting many trees with the on-line program. The advantage is the preservation aspect but also leaves it under your control versus hoping your tree will be around after you die at the whim of a retail company such as Ancestry, Heritage, Geni, etc. Although technically capable of hosting many GEDCOMs I need to understand how it might feel to have that many and what you as the user can do. That’s why we are doing a Beta test. I have asked someone to be the Beta user; whenever I get agreement and start the test, I will alert everyone about the test so you can give it a spin as well. What you may not realize is we have three GEDCOM’s on the system already.

If you already know you would be interested in having a GEDCOM uploaded for access and safekeeping, let me know.

Regards, Ron Yates

Re: Joseph Yates, a ship’s carpenter, b. 1750, who married Sarah Atmar

john.yates@... (John H. Yates) — Mon, 17 Apr 2023 08:07:47 -0700

Ron,

The line sometimes blurs (for me) between when we are talking about
my Y-DNA focus and your Autosomal focus. My focus was building a tree
for Joseph Yates, as I always try to do for new suspects. I was
thinking one or more of your suspects did have a known paper trail
to Joseph.

Anyway, I did find Joseph Yates' Revolutionary War record in fold3.
It is attached.

John