Re: Tournament scenario lists
My very short 2 cents - the scenario list also provides the opportunity to prepare in advance of the?tournament.? I find that if you want to be competitive, running through your choices and playing them, even if only a few turns, really makes a difference.? The prep work also lets you plan what gear, pieces, boards you will need so you can keep your travel kit to?a minimum.
-CT
I agree with Steve and Mike, you need a well thought out scenario list to give the tourney structure, it is essential the morning/afternoon round ends on time, once you get to the night round and you both agree to go off list, then go for the gusto, just don't go crazy and choose something you will finish at 3AM, makes for a not great day after. Once you are out of the running for first place, I always see if there is something on the list I want to play that round but if not, can do something else if my opponent agrees. Tourneys can't be just about open gaming, too much chaos unless you have a whole week like ASLOK,? Vic.
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 12:56:30 AM EDT, Steven Pleva < stevenpleva@...> wrote:
Kedge,
At Albany you can go off list if your opponent agrees. I don't force anyone onto the list. If you would rather go off list then you should have your own short list of scenarios (along with the scenario cards) you would rather play handy. If you are going to go this route you need to figure it out in a reasonable amount of time. One reason there is a defined list is to accelerate the pregame process.
Cheers,
Steve
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Subject: Re: [yasl] Tournament scenario lists
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Hi Kedge,
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Still being a relative newbie to ASL tournaments, I appreciate having scenario lists, and I like the themes that some of them use. ? I’m not sure where I would start picking my own scenarios, or how matches would work. Also I think it’s good for balance.
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However, as you suggest, I agree that having the option to go “off the list”, if your opponent agrees, would solve the issue and avoid “fixing something that (IMO) ain’t broke”.
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Cheers
Len
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Hi all,
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I was at ASLOK last week (don't ask...), and talked to several guys about Nor'easter. Something I heard multiple times was guys not wanting to come to tournaments with defined scenario lists. They preferred more open tournaments, like ASLOK and Winter Offensive.?
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Which got me thinking. Maybe a defined scenario list is not such a great option.?
?
One concern I foresee is the possibility of someone choosing an unbalanced scenario.?
?
Perhaps there is a solution that lies somewhere in the middle. Rather than have defined scenario choices for each round, we specify a pool of scenarios from which players can choose. We could also allow the option of choosing outside of the pool at the TD's discretion.?
?
Thoughts?
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Kedge
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Re: Tournament scenario lists
I've only been to a couple tournaments (and in such a noob capacity that they don't really count as competitive experience), but I've assumed that a curated scenario list is intended to provide some kind of theme and give context to what the competition is testing. Is it about who's best at a particular kind of scenario, a theater of war, a type of victory condition, or an overall versatility of skills?
I've also noticed that ASL tournaments don't seem differentiate between whether you play the attacker or defender in any number of rounds -- another difference in skillset (or at least it seems that way to me so far!)
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Re: Tournament scenario lists
I agree with Steve and Mike, you need a well thought out scenario list to give the tourney structure, it is essential the morning/afternoon round ends on time, once you get to the night round and you both agree to go off list, then go for the gusto, just don't go crazy and choose something you will finish at 3AM, makes for a not great day after. Once you are out of the running for first place, I always see if there is something on the list I want to play that round but if not, can do something else if my opponent agrees. Tourneys can't be just about open gaming, too much chaos unless you have a whole week like ASLOK,? Vic.
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 12:56:30 AM EDT, Steven Pleva <stevenpleva@...> wrote:
Kedge,
At Albany you can go off list if your opponent agrees. I don't force anyone onto the list. If you would rather go off list then you should have your own short list of scenarios (along with the scenario cards) you would rather play handy. If you are going to go this route you need to figure it out in a reasonable amount of time. One reason there is a defined list is to accelerate the pregame process.
Cheers,
Steve
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-----Original Message----- From: < [email protected]> Sent: Oct 9, 2023 11:32 PM To: < [email protected]> Subject: Re: [yasl] Tournament scenario lists
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Hi Kedge,
?
Still being a relative newbie to ASL tournaments, I appreciate having scenario lists, and I like the themes that some of them use. ? I’m not sure where I would start picking my own scenarios, or how matches would work. Also I think it’s good for balance.
?
However, as you suggest, I agree that having the option to go “off the list”, if your opponent agrees, would solve the issue and avoid “fixing something that (IMO) ain’t broke”.
?
Cheers
Len
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On Oct 9, 2023, at 5:06 PM, RLJII via groups.io <wintrymix@...> wrote:
Hi all,
?
I was at ASLOK last week (don't ask...), and talked to several guys about Nor'easter. Something I heard multiple times was guys not wanting to come to tournaments with defined scenario lists. They preferred more open tournaments, like ASLOK and Winter Offensive.?
?
Which got me thinking. Maybe a defined scenario list is not such a great option.?
?
One concern I foresee is the possibility of someone choosing an unbalanced scenario.?
?
Perhaps there is a solution that lies somewhere in the middle. Rather than have defined scenario choices for each round, we specify a pool of scenarios from which players can choose. We could also allow the option of choosing outside of the pool at the TD's discretion.?
?
Thoughts?
?
Kedge
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Re: Tournament scenario lists
Kedge,
At Albany you can go off list if your opponent agrees. I don't force anyone onto the list. If you would rather go off list then you should have your own short list of scenarios (along with the scenario cards) you would rather play handy. If you are going to go this route you need to figure it out in a reasonable amount of time. One reason there is a defined list is to accelerate the pregame process.
Cheers,
Steve
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-----Original Message----- From: < [email protected]> Sent: Oct 9, 2023 11:32 PM To: < [email protected]> Subject: Re: [yasl] Tournament scenario lists
?
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Hi Kedge,
?
Still being a relative newbie to ASL tournaments, I appreciate having scenario lists, and I like the themes that some of them use. ? I’m not sure where I would start picking my own scenarios, or how matches would work. Also I think it’s good for balance.
?
However, as you suggest, I agree that having the option to go “off the list”, if your opponent agrees, would solve the issue and avoid “fixing something that (IMO) ain’t broke”.
?
Cheers
Len
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On Oct 9, 2023, at 5:06 PM, RLJII via groups.io <wintrymix@...> wrote:
Hi all,
?
I was at ASLOK last week (don't ask...), and talked to several guys about Nor'easter. Something I heard multiple times was guys not wanting to come to tournaments with defined scenario lists. They preferred more open tournaments, like ASLOK and Winter Offensive.?
?
Which got me thinking. Maybe a defined scenario list is not such a great option.?
?
One concern I foresee is the possibility of someone choosing an unbalanced scenario.?
?
Perhaps there is a solution that lies somewhere in the middle. Rather than have defined scenario choices for each round, we specify a pool of scenarios from which players can choose. We could also allow the option of choosing outside of the pool at the TD's discretion.?
?
Thoughts?
?
Kedge
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Re: Tournament scenario lists
Hi Kedge, hope you had fun at ASLOK! And thank you for the player feedback.? And for proselytizing for the NorEaster!
While unbalanced scenarios and sharking are a concern, to me the bigger concern is keeping everyone on time.? Especially for the morning rounds.? If a long game is picked for the morning round, that could mess up pairings for the afternoon round. With a smaller tourney like ours, with 5 rounds, that's more problematic than the weeklong affair of ASLOK, which has more time for catchup.
As a frequent handler of PIS sheets, guys do occasionally go offlist.? Or perhaps play a Round 1 scenario in Round 4.? I don't think our TD will ever disallow that when it was mutually agreed upon.
And I know that is much different than the open format, but it is something.
-Mike
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 05:06:12 PM EDT, RLJII via groups.io <wintrymix@...> wrote:
Hi all,
I was at ASLOK last week (don't ask...), and talked to several guys about Nor'easter. Something I heard multiple times was guys not wanting to come to tournaments with defined scenario lists. They preferred more open tournaments, like ASLOK and Winter Offensive.?
Which got me thinking. Maybe a defined scenario list is not such a great option.?
One concern I foresee is the possibility of someone choosing an unbalanced scenario.?
Perhaps there is a solution that lies somewhere in the middle. Rather than have defined scenario choices for each round, we specify a pool of scenarios from which players can choose. We could also allow the option of choosing outside of the pool at the TD's discretion.?
Thoughts?
Kedge
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Re: Tournament scenario lists
Hi Kedge,
Still being a relative newbie to ASL tournaments, I appreciate having scenario lists, and I like the themes that some of them use. ? I’m not sure where I would start picking my own scenarios, or how matches would work. Also I think it’s good for balance.
However, as you suggest, I agree that having the option to go “off the list”, if your opponent agrees, would solve the issue and avoid “fixing something that (IMO) ain’t broke”.
Cheers Len
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On Oct 9, 2023, at 5:06 PM, RLJII via groups.io <wintrymix@...> wrote:
? Hi all,
I was at ASLOK last week (don't ask...), and talked to several guys about Nor'easter. Something I heard multiple times was guys not wanting to come to tournaments with defined scenario lists. They preferred more open tournaments, like ASLOK and Winter Offensive.?
Which got me thinking. Maybe a defined scenario list is not such a great option.?
One concern I foresee is the possibility of someone choosing an unbalanced scenario.?
Perhaps there is a solution that lies somewhere in the middle. Rather than have defined scenario choices for each round, we specify a pool of scenarios from which players can choose. We could also allow the option of choosing outside of the pool at the TD's discretion.?
Thoughts?
Kedge
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Re: Tournament scenario lists
ASL and SK tournaments are the only game tournaments I’ve ever played (and I’ve played both board and miniatures games in tournaments) where there was a predetermined set of scenarios that must be adhered to (or at least, strongly suggested) and to be honest, I don’t like it at all… it’s never been an actual scenario I would have chosen (except for one a couple years ago). Seems to me, ASLOK and WO have the right idea… just my personal opinion, of course.
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On Oct 9, 2023, at 5:06 PM, RLJII via groups.io <wintrymix@...> wrote:
? Hi all,
I was at ASLOK last week (don't ask...), and talked to several guys about Nor'easter. Something I heard multiple times was guys not wanting to come to tournaments with defined scenario lists. They preferred more open tournaments, like ASLOK and Winter Offensive.?
Which got me thinking. Maybe a defined scenario list is not such a great option.?
One concern I foresee is the possibility of someone choosing an unbalanced scenario.?
Perhaps there is a solution that lies somewhere in the middle. Rather than have defined scenario choices for each round, we specify a pool of scenarios from which players can choose. We could also allow the option of choosing outside of the pool at the TD's discretion.?
Thoughts?
Kedge
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Tournament scenario lists
Hi all,
I was at ASLOK last week (don't ask...), and talked to several guys about Nor'easter. Something I heard multiple times was guys not wanting to come to tournaments with defined scenario lists. They preferred more open tournaments, like ASLOK and Winter Offensive.?
Which got me thinking. Maybe a defined scenario list is not such a great option.?
One concern I foresee is the possibility of someone choosing an unbalanced scenario.?
Perhaps there is a solution that lies somewhere in the middle. Rather than have defined scenario choices for each round, we specify a pool of scenarios from which players can choose. We could also allow the option of choosing outside of the pool at the TD's discretion.?
Thoughts?
Kedge
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Re: YASL Support Appeal - 2023
On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 09:33:37 AM EDT, Chuck Tewksbury <chuck.tewksbury@...> wrote:
Thanks fellas, truly appreciate it.
_Chuck
On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 09:00:36 AM EDT, Joseph Gochinski via <jgochinski= [email protected]> wrote:
Chuck
Will send $ today?
Thank you for the time and effort ti do this?
Joe? ?Hi Everyone - it's that time of year where I reach out and ask for your financial support to keep the YASL list up and running here on .? The fee is $20/month, which for the features we get, is very reasonable.? I hope you will consider a donation.
To pay via PayPal you can go to this link?? ? (yes - I finally got this right the first time - you'll see MY face and a pic of some ASL modules on a shelf)
Please pick the "Friend/Family" option so that I can avoid paying taxes on this stuff.? :)
If Venmo is your jam, then you can Venmo me at @Chuck-Tewksbury with your Venmo app or online from ?
Your support is GREATLY APPRECIATED!
Roll low and thank you,
Chuck
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Re: YASL Support Appeal - 2023
Thanks fellas, truly appreciate it.
_Chuck
On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 09:00:36 AM EDT, Joseph Gochinski via <jgochinski= [email protected]> wrote:
Chuck
Will send $ today?
Thank you for the time and effort ti do this?
Joe? ?Hi Everyone - it's that time of year where I reach out and ask for your financial support to keep the YASL list up and running here on .? The fee is $20/month, which for the features we get, is very reasonable.? I hope you will consider a donation.
To pay via PayPal you can go to this link?? ? (yes - I finally got this right the first time - you'll see MY face and a pic of some ASL modules on a shelf)
Please pick the "Friend/Family" option so that I can avoid paying taxes on this stuff.? :)
If Venmo is your jam, then you can Venmo me at @Chuck-Tewksbury with your Venmo app or online from ?
Your support is GREATLY APPRECIATED!
Roll low and thank you,
Chuck
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Re: YASL Support Appeal - 2023
On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 09:00:36 AM EDT, Joseph Gochinski via groups.io <jgochinski@...> wrote:
Chuck
Will send $ today?
Thank you for the time and effort ti do this?
On Oct 2, 2023, at 8:24 AM, Chuck Tewksbury <chuck.tewksbury@...> wrote:
?Hi Everyone - it's that time of year where I reach out and ask for your financial support to keep the YASL list up and running here on groups.io.? The fee is $20/month, which for the features we get, is very reasonable.? I hope you will consider a donation.
To pay via PayPal you can go to this link?? ? (yes - I finally got this right the first time - you'll see MY face and a pic of some ASL modules on a shelf)
Please pick the "Friend/Family" option so that I can avoid paying taxes on this stuff.? :)
If Venmo is your jam, then you can Venmo me at @Chuck-Tewksbury with your Venmo app or online from ?
Your support is GREATLY APPRECIATED!
Roll low and thank you,
Chuck
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Re: YASL Support Appeal - 2023
No problem Chuck, I just PayPal ed you $10.00. Well worth keeping us going, Vic.
On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 08:24:09 AM EDT, Chuck Tewksbury <chuck.tewksbury@...> wrote:
Hi Everyone - it's that time of year where I reach out and ask for your financial support to keep the YASL list up and running here on groups.io.? The fee is $20/month, which for the features we get, is very reasonable.? I hope you will consider a donation.
To pay via PayPal you can go to this link?? ? (yes - I finally got this right the first time - you'll see MY face and a pic of some ASL modules on a shelf)
Please pick the "Friend/Family" option so that I can avoid paying taxes on this stuff.? :)
If Venmo is your jam, then you can Venmo me at @Chuck-Tewksbury with your Venmo app or online from ?
Your support is GREATLY APPRECIATED!
Roll low and thank you,
Chuck
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Re: YASL Support Appeal - 2023
Chuck
Will send $ today?
Thank you for the time and effort ti do this?
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On Oct 2, 2023, at 8:24 AM, Chuck Tewksbury <chuck.tewksbury@...> wrote:
?Hi Everyone - it's that time of year where I reach out and ask for your financial support to keep the YASL list up and running here on groups.io.? The fee is $20/month, which for the features we get, is very reasonable.? I hope you will consider a donation.
To pay via PayPal you can go to this link?? ? (yes - I finally got this right the first time - you'll see MY face and a pic of some ASL modules on a shelf)
Please pick the "Friend/Family" option so that I can avoid paying taxes on this stuff.? :)
If Venmo is your jam, then you can Venmo me at @Chuck-Tewksbury with your Venmo app or online from ?
Your support is GREATLY APPRECIATED!
Roll low and thank you,
Chuck
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YASL Support Appeal - 2023
Hi Everyone - it's that time of year where I reach out and ask for your financial support to keep the YASL list up and running here on groups.io.? The fee is $20/month, which for the features we get, is very reasonable.? I hope you will consider a donation.
To pay via PayPal you can go to this link?? ? (yes - I finally got this right the first time - you'll see MY face and a pic of some ASL modules on a shelf)
Please pick the "Friend/Family" option so that I can avoid paying taxes on this stuff.? :)
If Venmo is your jam, then you can Venmo me at @Chuck-Tewksbury with your Venmo app or online from ?
Your support is GREATLY APPRECIATED!
Roll low and thank you,
Chuck
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Konigsberg Questions on Redeployment
Hello,
I requested official answers from the game designer/publisher, but I figured I’d ask if anyone here knew the answers to these two questions.
We have two Konigsberg, The Bear’s Revenge HASL questions on how to interpret redeployment during D5.132 (i), (ii) and (v).
(1) In regards to D5.132 (i) and (ii), when redeploying?must?units stop in the?nearest?FEBA location, or can they continue up to their?maximum?redeployment range?
(2) In regards to D5.132 (v), what is the definition of “产别丑颈苍诲”?the FEBA? ? Does it?include?the FEBA hex itself, or is it the hexes?behind?the FEBA hex?
Thanks, —Paul & Larry
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Re: Finally the Nor'Easter has a home for 2024
Great news Carl and Ralph, I can actually make Springfield, no problem, Vic.
On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 09:07:57 AM EDT, Joseph Gochinski via groups.io <jgochinski@...> wrote:
Carl/Ralph?
Great work as always!!?
Best
On Sep 27, 2023, at 1:39 AM, chnogueira via groups.io <Chnogueira@...> wrote:
? Folks, ? ? ? ? ?The Nor'easter will be at the La Quinta Hotel in Springfield MA from 3/14-3/17 for 2024. I am waiting for the sales manager to send a link so you guys can make your own reservations without having to go through the Phone lines. I will post all pertinent information as soon as I have it. It's a good deal for us and we are looking forward to it. It was VERY tough finding a spot after our old digs priced themselves out of consideration. We finally did it though and many thanks to Ralph MacDonald who got this location for us. Once again proving that Ralph is not a YASL HOF member just on his good looks. :-) Thanks Ralph.? ? ? ? ? ?More to come. Carl Nogueira
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Re: Finally the Nor'Easter has a home for 2024
Carl/Ralph?
Great work as always!!?
Best
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On Sep 27, 2023, at 1:39 AM, chnogueira via groups.io <Chnogueira@...> wrote:
? Folks, ? ? ? ? ?The Nor'easter will be at the La Quinta Hotel in Springfield MA from 3/14-3/17 for 2024. I am waiting for the sales manager to send a link so you guys can make your own reservations without having to go through the Phone lines. I will post all pertinent information as soon as I have it. It's a good deal for us and we are looking forward to it. It was VERY tough finding a spot after our old digs priced themselves out of consideration. We finally did it though and many thanks to Ralph MacDonald who got this location for us. Once again proving that Ralph is not a YASL HOF member just on his good looks. :-) Thanks Ralph.? ? ? ? ? ?More to come. Carl Nogueira
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Re: Fixed...RE: [yasl] Yankee gamers down?
Also, is there any chance the Albany page can be updated for 2023? ?I mean, I have my email from Steve Pleva, but it would be nice to see the information on the site for the benefit of all.
Thanks Len
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On Sep 27, 2023, at 2:06 AM, chnogueira via groups.io <Chnogueira@...> wrote:
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Hi Bruce,? ? ? ? ? ? As posted tonight, we finally have the space and date. I will contact you when all the material is in order. Also, is there anyway to change my email address on the site to carlhnogueira@...? That is my real address. I almost never check the AOL address anymore.? Thanks, Carl
On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 10:11:32 PM EDT, Bruce Carson <bcarson@...> wrote:
Our website is back up.? I had to rewrite quite a few things. Are we ready to put next year’s convention info on the site? ? Bruce ? ? ?I’ll take a look tonight. ?Php upgrade seems to have broken a few things! ?
On Aug 21, 2023, at 8:38 PM, Joseph Gochinski via groups.io <jgochinski@...> wrote:
?Same here?
On Aug 21, 2023, at 4:16 PM, Chuck Tewksbury <chuck.tewksbury@...> wrote:
?Getting an error reaching --
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Re: Fixed...RE: [yasl] Yankee gamers down?
Hi Bruce,? ? ? ? ? ? As posted tonight, we finally have the space and date. I will contact you when all the material is in order. Also, is there anyway to change my email address on the site to carlhnogueira@...? That is my real address. I almost never check the AOL address anymore.? Thanks, Carl
On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 10:11:32 PM EDT, Bruce Carson <bcarson@...> wrote:
Our website is back up.? I had to rewrite quite a few things. Are we ready to put next year’s convention info on the site? ? Bruce ?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Carson
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 6:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yasl] Yankee gamers down? ? ?I’ll take a look tonight. ?Php upgrade seems to have broken a few things! ?
On Aug 21, 2023, at 8:38 PM, Joseph Gochinski via groups.io <jgochinski@...> wrote:
?Same here?
On Aug 21, 2023, at 4:16 PM, Chuck Tewksbury <chuck.tewksbury@...> wrote:
?Getting an error reaching --
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Finally the Nor'Easter has a home for 2024
Folks, ? ? ? ? ?The Nor'easter will be at the La Quinta Hotel in Springfield MA from 3/14-3/17 for 2024. I am waiting for the sales manager to send a link so you guys can make your own reservations without having to go through the Phone lines. I will post all pertinent information as soon as I have it. It's a good deal for us and we are looking forward to it. It was VERY tough finding a spot after our old digs priced themselves out of consideration. We finally did it though and many thanks to Ralph MacDonald who got this location for us. Once again proving that Ralph is not a YASL HOF member just on his good looks. :-) Thanks Ralph.? ? ? ? ? ?More to come. Carl Nogueira
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Len Kay
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