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Strange Experience on io and Bread Flour


 

Well this is a potpourri of topics, but here goes.

1.? The Groups.io site was down this morning, just presenting a log in page, but it wouldn't accept my login.? I decided to attempt to log in with my gmail account, which I don't use often.? Because it's a different email addy from my usual sewgood5 email, it treated me as a applicant for membership.? I then went back to my gmail and it was "down for maintenance" which was the message I received on groups.io last night.

Went to io. to have them send me a link to log in.? Unsuccessful again.? Went back to their link to log in and it magically worked.? All my groups in place, no problem.? So, Jaya, if you see a member request from me with an easley gmail account, just forget it.? I think it's all de-bugged at this point.

2.? Bread Flour:? I found the discussion of shortage of bread flour and sourcing really interesting.? I no longer bake bread much, but we certainly do crank out the pizza dough for every Friday night's pizza extravaganza.? Out of curiosity,? I decided to see if my Lowe's Foods in Southport had bread flour and it is sold out. In fact I almost mistook the entire flour section as the section for disinfectants b/c it was so bare. Today I'm in Raleigh to fulfill some appointments and I thought I'd check Wegman's:? No Bread Flour.? None.?

A nationwide shortage of bread flour. I am amazed.? Are Americans really baking that much bread?? Certainly more brean than the customary 40-50 hour work week plus commute time would allow, but enough to cause a shortage?? It's impressive.

No shortage of meats in Raleigh, not even the lamb or veals.? NC has lots of pork and chicken processors in rural counties and I read today that some of the pork producers have been hit hard with the virus.? That's frightening.

I'm heading back to Southport tomorrow, but it was like a tonic to lay eyes upon my son and daughter.? I've missed them so much.? It just felt so good to be able to talk and laugh with them.? We humans are not wired to be without live human interaction.? This is so shallow in light of the gravity of the times, but I was amazed to find that my son had actually kept all of my plants alive.? I wasn't expecting that.

Our infection curve is still rising, but flattening out, yet we are slowly opening back up, and I am very nervous about it.? I'll be the old fogey staying home.? However, it is reassuring that most everyone is wearing masks.?
The outliers tend to get the "stink eye" from those wearing masks and are given a wide berth as they pass.? It makes me think of this funny, simple, but crude way of explaining just why masks work:?

?1.? Two men face each other a few feet apart. Neither is wearing pants. Both pee. Each is peed on by the other.
?2.? Two men face each other a few feet apart. One is wearing pants and the other is not. Both pee. The man wearing pants is peed on by the other man.
?3. Two men face each other a few feet apart. Both are wearing pants. Both pee. Neither is peed on by the other.

A very direct analogy indeed.

One of my girlfriends lives in Oakwood, a downtown Raleigh neighborhood near the Gov's Mansion.? Last week the neighborhood had all of these men in army gear with machine guns (AR 15?) and side arms rolling through their neighborhoods in trucks, shouting and honking horns.?? My friend said it really put her on edge and was scary. No police anywhere. The same day,? one of the OpenNC people led a group to crash through the SW gate of the Gov's Mansion.? That's pretty unbelievable.? Strange times.

Mary


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That’s a fascinating update on what is happening in your area. Much appreciated.

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What they say here about the flour is that there was a sudden spike in flour sales at the point where bread was hard to come by, and many people were stocking up on foodstuffs which would keep for weeks or even months in case they felt it was just too dangerous to go out. This spike used up all the ?flour pre-bagged in standard shop-size bags (which here are 1.5kg, about 3 and ? pounds). There was still plenty of flour in the warehouses but it was all in 7kg/15lb bags or bigger. Also because of social distancing regulations they couldn’t get enough staff in to re-bag it in smaller quantities (and indeed had not enough of the bags on hand).

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The small suppliers are willing to send out bags of various sizes, but only a few people can go into their packing areas at once so they can only take a limited number of orders per day. So this route is not available to most people.

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Basically there is plenty of wheat to mill, and plenty of flour, it’s an issue with getting it to people. Lots of people are baking cakes and cookies in lockdown as activities especially with children so demand is a little higher than usual anyway. Eventually it will sort itself out.

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What you say about the guys with machine guns is terrifying. I’m amazed it was allowed, though I suppose it would take the military to go against something like that.

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I much fear that the USA will shortly learn what happens if you unlock while there are still such high numbers of infections. Educational as it will be for us all,? I’m so sorry for the pain which will ensue.

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Though as my DH and I were saying at breakfast, when it’s a choice of risk possibly catching something which might not make you individually very ill, or starve and see your kids starve, there’s no doubt what almost anyone would choose. People just hope they as individuals won’t be part of the higher price which will be paid overall. Africa and India are going to get caught the same way.

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Hoping everyone is staying safe and well

Jenny

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of mary_007usa via groups.io
Sent: 06 May 2020 17:19
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yarnmongers] Strange Experience on io and Bread Flour

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Well this is a potpourri of topics, but here goes.

1.? The Groups.io site was down this morning, just presenting a log in page, but it wouldn't accept my login.? I decided to attempt to log in with my gmail account, which I don't use often.? Because it's a different email addy from my usual sewgood5 email, it treated me as a applicant for membership.? I then went back to my gmail and it was "down for maintenance" which was the message I received on groups.io last night.

Went to io. to have them send me a link to log in.? Unsuccessful again.? Went back to their link to log in and it magically worked.? All my groups in place, no problem.? So, Jaya, if you see a member request from me with an easley gmail account, just forget it.? I think it's all de-bugged at this point.

2.? Bread Flour:? I found the discussion of shortage of bread flour and sourcing really interesting.? I no longer bake bread much, but we certainly do crank out the pizza dough for every Friday night's pizza extravaganza.? Out of curiosity,? I decided to see if my Lowe's Foods in Southport had bread flour and it is sold out. In fact I almost mistook the entire flour section as the section for disinfectants b/c it was so bare. Today I'm in Raleigh to fulfill some appointments and I thought I'd check Wegman's:? No Bread Flour.? None.?

A nationwide shortage of bread flour. I am amazed.? Are Americans really baking that much bread?? Certainly more brean than the customary 40-50 hour work week plus commute time would allow, but enough to cause a shortage?? It's impressive.

No shortage of meats in Raleigh, not even the lamb or veals.? NC has lots of pork and chicken processors in rural counties and I read today that some of the pork producers have been hit hard with the virus.? That's frightening.

I'm heading back to Southport tomorrow, but it was like a tonic to lay eyes upon my son and daughter.? I've missed them so much.? It just felt so good to be able to talk and laugh with them.? We humans are not wired to be without live human interaction.? This is so shallow in light of the gravity of the times, but I was amazed to find that my son had actually kept all of my plants alive.? I wasn't expecting that.

Our infection curve is still rising, but flattening out, yet we are slowly opening back up, and I am very nervous about it.? I'll be the old fogey staying home.? However, it is reassuring that most everyone is wearing masks.?
The outliers tend to get the "stink eye" from those wearing masks and are given a wide berth as they pass.? It makes me think of this funny, simple, but crude way of explaining just why masks work:?

?1.? Two men face each other a few feet apart. Neither is wearing pants. Both pee. Each is peed on by the other.

?2.? Two men face each other a few feet apart. One is wearing pants and the other is not. Both pee. The man wearing pants is peed on by the other man.

?3. Two men face each other a few feet apart. Both are wearing pants. Both pee. Neither is peed on by the other.

A very direct analogy indeed.

One of my girlfriends lives in Oakwood, a downtown Raleigh neighborhood near the Gov's Mansion.? Last week the neighborhood had all of these men in army gear with machine guns (AR 15?) and side arms rolling through their neighborhoods in trucks, shouting and honking horns.?? My friend said it really put her on edge and was scary. No police anywhere. The same day,? one of the OpenNC people led a group to crash through the SW gate of the Gov's Mansion.? That's pretty unbelievable.? Strange times.

Mary


Mary.


 

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When I saw Stephen Colbert discussing sourdough starter with one of his guests last week (can’t remember who it was, but I think it was an actor I didn’t know could sing but can), I knew that the sourdough craze was truly out of hand.? I think it’s become a bit of a viral thing, to be honest, and part of the same social media culture that pre-pandemic had gobs of people eating out every night during the week and tackling massive complicated recipes are recreation/social media post fodder on the weekends.

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I’m just about to break into my 50 lb bag of flour but will confess I haven’t looked at grocery store shelves for flour or yeast for weeks since I found it elsewhere.? I’m going to need more white sugar soon (down to the last 5 lb bag) so I’ll report back. ?Won’t have any opinion or knowledge about meat because we don’t eat it.

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We’ve always baked a lot and I’ve been baking my own bread for years so other than embarking on sourdough with Ezra, nothing new for me other than difficulty getting ingredients.?

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New Jersey is one of the states that has not really begun to reopen and since the things that I’m truly interested in doing will be late in the game (my dog training club is starting to plan for what eventual reopening will look like), I’m surprisingly OK with the status quo.? The other thing I miss a whole lot is seeing my Dad, but I’m going to be cautious about that too.

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Melisande

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of mary_007usa via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 12:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yarnmongers] Strange Experience on io and Bread Flour

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Well this is a potpourri of topics, but here goes.

1.? The Groups.io site was down this morning, just presenting a log in page, but it wouldn't accept my login.? I decided to attempt to log in with my gmail account, which I don't use often.? Because it's a different email addy from my usual sewgood5 email, it treated me as a applicant for membership.? I then went back to my gmail and it was "down for maintenance" which was the message I received on groups.io last night.

Went to io. to have them send me a link to log in.? Unsuccessful again.? Went back to their link to log in and it magically worked.? All my groups in place, no problem.? So, Jaya, if you see a member request from me with an easley gmail account, just forget it.? I think it's all de-bugged at this point.

2.? Bread Flour:? I found the discussion of shortage of bread flour and sourcing really interesting.? I no longer bake bread much, but we certainly do crank out the pizza dough for every Friday night's pizza extravaganza.? Out of curiosity,? I decided to see if my Lowe's Foods in Southport had bread flour and it is sold out. In fact I almost mistook the entire flour section as the section for disinfectants b/c it was so bare. Today I'm in Raleigh to fulfill some appointments and I thought I'd check Wegman's:? No Bread Flour.? None.?

A nationwide shortage of bread flour. I am amazed.? Are Americans really baking that much bread?? Certainly more brean than the customary 40-50 hour work week plus commute time would allow, but enough to cause a shortage?? It's impressive.

No shortage of meats in Raleigh, not even the lamb or veals.? NC has lots of pork and chicken processors in rural counties and I read today that some of the pork producers have been hit hard with the virus.? That's frightening.

I'm heading back to Southport tomorrow, but it was like a tonic to lay eyes upon my son and daughter.? I've missed them so much.? It just felt so good to be able to talk and laugh with them.? We humans are not wired to be without live human interaction.? This is so shallow in light of the gravity of the times, but I was amazed to find that my son had actually kept all of my plants alive.? I wasn't expecting that.

Our infection curve is still rising, but flattening out, yet we are slowly opening back up, and I am very nervous about it.? I'll be the old fogey staying home.? However, it is reassuring that most everyone is wearing masks.?
The outliers tend to get the "stink eye" from those wearing masks and are given a wide berth as they pass.? It makes me think of this funny, simple, but crude way of explaining just why masks work:?

?1.? Two men face each other a few feet apart. Neither is wearing pants. Both pee. Each is peed on by the other.

?2.? Two men face each other a few feet apart. One is wearing pants and the other is not. Both pee. The man wearing pants is peed on by the other man.

?3. Two men face each other a few feet apart. Both are wearing pants. Both pee. Neither is peed on by the other.

A very direct analogy indeed.

One of my girlfriends lives in Oakwood, a downtown Raleigh neighborhood near the Gov's Mansion.? Last week the neighborhood had all of these men in army gear with machine guns (AR 15?) and side arms rolling through their neighborhoods in trucks, shouting and honking horns.?? My friend said it really put her on edge and was scary. No police anywhere. The same day,? one of the OpenNC people led a group to crash through the SW gate of the Gov's Mansion.? That's pretty unbelievable.? Strange times.

Mary


Mary.


 

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What I’m most concerned about in the US is that different approaches that various states, and to some extent, areas of the country are taking.? Some of the governors have formed coalitions to coordinate reopening, most notably a set of western states, a bunch of states in the northeast/mid-Atlantic region, and I believe one set of states in the Midwest.? Those coalitions seem to be more cautious overall than some of the states I’m seeing reopen now.?

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What happens if my area is cautious and attempts to keep the curve declining (as I believe it finally is in NJ) while other areas increase the number of infections?? Despite what some governors have said, there are no restrictions on travel within the US and I don’t know what any of this looks like.

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Or whether my sons will be able to go back to school in the fall, which is one of the biggest things I am worrying about personally right now.

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Melisande

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jenny Swanson
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 12:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yarnmongers] Strange Experience on io and Bread Flour

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[trimmed a bit]

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Though as my DH and I were saying at breakfast, when it’s a choice of risk possibly catching something which might not make you individually very ill, or starve and see your kids starve, there’s no doubt what almost anyone would choose. People just hope they as individuals won’t be part of the higher price which will be paid overall. Africa and India are going to get caught the same way.

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Hoping everyone is staying safe and well

Jenny

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The flour section in TN stores still looks like the disinfectant aisle. Two days ago, I broken down and ordered 100lb of flour because I cannot cope with continuing to use all-purpose (which I sort of view as junk food). Sugar is fine. Yeast is absent at standard grocery stores but Trader Joe’s had plenty.?
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jacqui

We don't know who we are until we see what we can do.
-Martha Grimes

On May 6, 2020, at 12:39 PM, Melisande R. Wolf via <melisanderwolf@...> wrote:

I’m just about to break into my 50 lb bag of flour but will confess I haven’t looked at grocery store shelves for flour or yeast for weeks since I found it elsewhere.? I’m going to need more white sugar soon (down to the last 5 lb bag) so I’ll report back. ?Won’t have any opinion or knowledge about meat because we don’t eat it.



 

Mary,
Are you sure you don’t want your gmail address added to the group for future problems?

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 12:18 PM mary_007usa via <sewgood5=[email protected]> wrote:
Well this is a potpourri of topics, but here goes.

1.? The Groups.io site was down this morning, just presenting a log in page, but it wouldn't accept my login.? I decided to attempt to log in with my gmail account, which I don't use often.? Because it's a different email addy from my usual sewgood5 email, it treated me as a applicant for membership.? I then went back to my gmail and it was "down for maintenance" which was the message I received on last night.

Went to io. to have them send me a link to log in.? Unsuccessful again.? Went back to their link to log in and it magically worked.? All my groups in place, no problem.? So, Jaya, if you see a member request from me with an easley gmail account, just forget it.? I think it's all de-bugged at this point.

2.? Bread Flour:? I found the discussion of shortage of bread flour and sourcing really interesting.? I no longer bake bread much, but we certainly do crank out the pizza dough for every Friday night's pizza extravaganza.? Out of curiosity,? I decided to see if my Lowe's Foods in Southport had bread flour and it is sold out. In fact I almost mistook the entire flour section as the section for disinfectants b/c it was so bare. Today I'm in Raleigh to fulfill some appointments and I thought I'd check Wegman's:? No Bread Flour.? None.?

A nationwide shortage of bread flour. I am amazed.? Are Americans really baking that much bread?? Certainly more brean than the customary 40-50 hour work week plus commute time would allow, but enough to cause a shortage?? It's impressive.

No shortage of meats in Raleigh, not even the lamb or veals.? NC has lots of pork and chicken processors in rural counties and I read today that some of the pork producers have been hit hard with the virus.? That's frightening.

I'm heading back to Southport tomorrow, but it was like a tonic to lay eyes upon my son and daughter.? I've missed them so much.? It just felt so good to be able to talk and laugh with them.? We humans are not wired to be without live human interaction.? This is so shallow in light of the gravity of the times, but I was amazed to find that my son had actually kept all of my plants alive.? I wasn't expecting that.

Our infection curve is still rising, but flattening out, yet we are slowly opening back up, and I am very nervous about it.? I'll be the old fogey staying home.? However, it is reassuring that most everyone is wearing masks.?
The outliers tend to get the "stink eye" from those wearing masks and are given a wide berth as they pass.? It makes me think of this funny, simple, but crude way of explaining just why masks work:?

?1.? Two men face each other a few feet apart. Neither is wearing pants. Both pee. Each is peed on by the other.
?2.? Two men face each other a few feet apart. One is wearing pants and the other is not. Both pee. The man wearing pants is peed on by the other man.
?3. Two men face each other a few feet apart. Both are wearing pants. Both pee. Neither is peed on by the other.

A very direct analogy indeed.

One of my girlfriends lives in Oakwood, a downtown Raleigh neighborhood near the Gov's Mansion.? Last week the neighborhood had all of these men in army gear with machine guns (AR 15?) and side arms rolling through their neighborhoods in trucks, shouting and honking horns.?? My friend said it really put her on edge and was scary. No police anywhere. The same day,? one of the OpenNC people led a group to crash through the SW gate of the Gov's Mansion.? That's pretty unbelievable.? Strange times.

Mary


Mary.

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Jaya


 

No, I don't think so.? That gmail address is laden with junk and I'm too lazy to clean it up.? At least I stay on top of the aol address.

Thank you, though,

Mary.


 

OK. I deleted the approval request
Jaya

On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 11:54 AM mary_007usa via <sewgood5=[email protected]> wrote:
No, I don't think so.? That gmail address is laden with junk and I'm too lazy to clean it up.? At least I stay on top of the aol address.

Thank you, though,

Mary.



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Jaya