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Re: L'il help needed..

 

Hey D T, anytime I think of the CS-50, I think of this track. Awesome sounds and a very capable synth, indeed, as is the CS-60.




>>>> Hey! There is no “only” owning a CS-50! CS-50s are wonderful :)

Thanks to Kyle and Florian and everyone else for always helping people out on these lists...

best - DT


Re: L'il help needed..

 

Thanks for letting me know, Florian, and again for your assistance in my previous technical questions.
Kyle, you make some valid points, and lord knows I can be impatient sometimes, but speaking from someone who's been a part of the vintage synth DIY community since the early 2000's, back in the heyday when folks would generously take the time to explain every possible option and approach to resolving? technical problems, I've noticed a marked decline in support. Nowadays, it seems, and like I said, I posted this question on several other forums, it seems things have changed, and I'm wondering if I should either just drop this CS80 off at a service center and pay the $1000's to get it fixed, or just sell it as is and get a Prophet 6. I am a dedicated composer and feel blessed to even have a CS-80 in my possession, and my frustration doesn't just lie in the fact that having to deal with these technical issues is hampering my productivity, but with the egotism I've seen in the musical world in general. One forum in particular (not this group, but one that starts with an 'm' and rhymes with 'uffwiggler') have a few CS-80 owners that will sometimes respond at first, but if they receive a response that in some minuscule way could be misconstrued know-it-all-ish they seemed to get their technical panties in a bunch and just drop off. I don't think it'd take more than 5 minutes to do this test with a DMM, and it can probably done without raising the card riser if you can get a probe to the rail, and this thing was designed to have the main panel raised and lowered and it shouldn't damage anything doing so unless someone is half lit on Moscow Mules beforehand. I would gladly do the same for another CS-80 user, and if one were to do so for me, or even respond with something like 'hey, that sucks, wish I could help, good luck' I always try to offer a clear and concise thank you from my ethereal space.


Re: L'il help needed..

 

Hey! There is no “only” owning a CS-50! CS-50s are wonderful :)

Thanks to Kyle and Florian and everyone else for always helping people out on these lists...

best - DT


Re: L'il help needed..

 

I own only a CS-50, and I do take care for two CS-80ies here in town sometimes. It might take several months until I will be in front of a CS-80 again...

Am 29.01.2018 um 01:13 schrieb jonathan4051@... [yamahacs80]:


Thanks, Kyle, I'll keep that all in mind. I have this question posted on half a dozen forums, including Muffwiggler, VintageSynth.com, moogmusic.com, and the CS-80 Facebook page, and am baffled by the lack of response for such a simple question.
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Re: L'il help needed..

 

jonathan4051, I understand your frustration, but in the list members' defense, how many CS-80 owners are technically oriented enough to consider making this measurement? And even if they are, how many are willing to open their unit valued at $10k-20k, pull up the riser and make this measurement? There is a risk involved in damaging something each time the unit is opened, and the reward is just a vague thank you from the ether. The odds that a unit is open on a tech's bench and the tech saw your post and can take the time to make and report the measurement are slim.? I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm just calling it as i see it.


jkjelec

On January 28, 2018 at 7:13 PM "jonathan4051@... [yamahacs80]" <yamahacs80@...> wrote:

Thanks, Kyle, I'll keep that all in mind. I have this question posted on half a dozen forums, including Muffwiggler, VintageSynth.com, moogmusic.com, and the CS-80 Facebook page, and am baffled by the lack of response for such a simple question. Perhaps there's a reason these machines are kept from artists dedicated to the craft of creating music, only to waste away in the hands of hip hop studios and wealthy collectors. Given my financial situation, I am getting tempted to sell my CS-80 at this point if this is the kind of support I can expect in the long haul. C'est la vie, I suppose…guess I'll just muse on something the late, great Kevin Lightner said in one of his final posts: "My suggestion to someone who wants a vintage synth fixed is to have a lot of patience, research everything and have no expectations whatsoever."


Re: Cs70m for sale in Phila

 

There was a recently-serviced CS-60 on the Philly Craiglist a few weeks ago as well. I contacted the owner, but he'd just sold it on Reverb.


Cs70m for sale in Phila

 

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There’s a CS70m for sale in Phila; they’re quite uncommon... even rarer than the 80s. It’s on Phila craigslist. I also know the seller and could assist in passing on contact information. -Ron

Ron Joseph


Re: Digest Number 1470

 

There’s a CS70m for sale in Philadelphia; they’re quite uncommon even less so than the 80s-Ron

Ron Joseph
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Re: L'il help needed.. by jonathan4051
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Re: L'il help needed.. by "Kyle Jarger" jkjelec2002
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Re: L'il help needed.. by jonathan4051
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Re: L'il help needed.. by jonathan4051
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Re: WTB - Yamaha CS-70M by "V CL" virusindigo2

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Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:47 pm (PST) . Posted by:
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Don't all shout out at once..
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Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:01 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Kyle Jarger" jkjelec2002 <mailto:jkjelec@...?subject=Re%3A%20L%27il%20help%20needed%2E%2E>
Fellow CS-80 owners, with the power off, could you please do me a solid and measure the resistance between the +15V power rail on the card riser (the lower bar that the cards screw into) and ground. I am trying to figure out if the 70 ohms I'm getting is normal or if this is indicative of a partial short. Thanks! Cheers, Jonathan

I don't have one here, but 15V/70 ohms = 214 mA, which seems a low amount of current for all of those voice boards. But since it's not powered on, it might be a reasonable impedance for this situation. Certainly 70 ohms is nowhere near a short circuit, given the large amount of circuitry present. It's not clear to me if a shorted component/capacitor would NOT show a short when no power was present, but then go short when power was applied...I don't think so...

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Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:13 pm (PST) . Posted by:
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Thanks, Kyle, I'll keep that all in mind. I have this question posted on half a dozen forums, including Muffwiggler, VintageSynth.com, moogmusic.com, and the CS-80 Facebook page, and am baffled by the lack of response for such a simple question. Perhaps there's a reason these machines are kept from artists dedicated to the craft of creating music, only to waste away in the hands of hip hop studios and wealthy collectors. Given my financial situation, I am getting tempted to sell my CS-80 at this point if this is the kind of support I can expect in the long haul. C'est la vie, I suppose…guess I'll just muse on something the late, great Kevin Lightner said in one of his final posts: "My suggestion to someone who wants a vintage synth fixed is to have a lot of patience, research everything and have no expectations whatsoever."
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Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:35 pm (PST) . Posted by:
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Thank, Kyle, I'll keep that all in mind. I have this question posted on half a dozen forums, including Muffwiggler, VintageSynth.com, moogmusic.com, and the CS-80 Facebook page, and am baffled by the lack of response I'm getting. Perhaps there's a reason these machines are kept away from artists dedicated to the craft of creating music, only to waste away in the hands of hip hop studios and wealthy collectors. Given my financial situation, I am getting tempted to sell my CS-80 at this point if this is the kind of support I can expect in the long haul. C'est la vie, I suppose…guess I'll just muse on something the late, great Kevin Lightner said in one of his final posts: "My suggestion to someone who wants a vintage synth fixed is to have a lot of patience, research everything and have no expectations whatsoever."
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Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:37 pm (PST) . Posted by:
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Just thought I'd bump this post if anyone on the USA west coast has a CS-70M for sale... preferably in Oregon or Washington State, or Vancouver BC. I'm still looking to acquire one so drop me a note if you're willing to sell/trade.
Cheers
On Sunday, November 5, 2017, 9:17:12 p.m. PST, virusindigo2@... [yamahacs80] <yamahacs80@...> wrote:



Hello all,

I'm a longtime lurker but wanted to say thanks for this group -- its a treasure trove of information and resources. I love vintage Yamaha synths and have a few myself -- CS-30, CS-50/60, CS-40M, SK-30.

I've been looking to acquire a Yamaha CS-70M and was wondering if anyone might have one for sale. If so, please drop me a line to discuss. I also have a fair number of other synths I may be willing to part with if there's interest in a trade + cash deal.

I'm based in western Canada (BC) if shipping is required. If you happen to be in BC, Alberta, or Washington state/Oregon I'm also willing to drive a fair distance to acquire one.

Thanks so much... hope to hear from you.

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Re: CS-80: Output level down to nothing

 

Did this problem ever get resolved?


Re: WTB - Yamaha CS-70M

 

Just thought I'd bump this post if anyone on the USA west coast has a CS-70M for sale... preferably in Oregon or Washington State, or Vancouver BC. I'm still looking to acquire one so drop me a note if you're willing to sell/trade.

Cheers

On Sunday, November 5, 2017, 9:17:12 p.m. PST, virusindigo2@... [yamahacs80] wrote:


?

Hello all,?


I'm a longtime lurker but wanted to say thanks for this group -- its a treasure trove of information and resources.?I love vintage Yamaha synths and have a few myself -- CS-30, CS-50/60, CS-40M, SK-30.?


I've been looking to acquire a Yamaha CS-70M and was wondering if anyone might have one for sale. If so, please drop me a line to discuss. I also have a fair number of other synths I may be willing to part with if there's interest in a trade + cash deal.?


I'm based in western Canada (BC) if shipping is required. If you happen to be in BC, Alberta, or Washington state/Oregon I'm also willing to drive a fair distance to acquire one.?


Thanks so much... hope to hear from you.?



Re: L'il help needed..

 

Thanks, Kyle, I'll keep that all in mind. I have this question posted on half a dozen forums, including Muffwiggler, VintageSynth.com, moogmusic.com, and the CS-80 Facebook page, and am baffled by the lack of response for such a simple question. Perhaps there's a reason these machines are kept from artists dedicated to the craft of creating music, only to waste away in the hands of hip hop studios and wealthy collectors. Given my financial situation, I am getting tempted to sell my CS-80 at this point if this is the kind of support I can expect in the long haul. C'est la vie, I suppose…guess I'll just muse on something the late, great Kevin Lightner said in one of his final posts: "My suggestion to someone who wants a vintage synth fixed is to have a lot of patience, research everything and have no expectations whatsoever."


Re: L'il help needed..

 

Fellow CS-80 owners, with the power off, could you please do me a solid and measure the resistance between the +15V power rail on the card riser (the lower bar that the cards screw into) and ground. I am trying to figure out if the 70 ohms I'm getting is normal or if this is indicative of a partial short. Thanks! Cheers, Jonathan


I don't have one here, but 15V/70 ohms = 214 mA, which seems a low amount of current for all of those voice boards.? But since it's not powered on, it might be a reasonable impedance for this situation. Certainly 70 ohms is nowhere near a short circuit, given the large amount of circuitry present. It's not clear to me if a shorted component/capacitor would NOT show a short when no power was present, but then go short when power was applied...I don't think so...


jkjelec


Re: L'il help needed..

 

Don't all shout out at once..


Re: KAS Bd for auction on E-bay (USA Only)

 

No, it has not been tested. It was pulled from a unit that was being parted out long ago.

The unit it had been pulled from had been physically damaged.

Kyle

jkjelec@...


Sorry for the re-post; it seems most of my last post got chopped off...

On January 24, 2018 at 11:04 AM Kyle Jarger <jkjelec@...> wrote:

wrote:?

"Likely" working? So it's never been tested?


Re: KAS Bd for auction on E-bay (USA Only)

 

wrote:?

"Likely" working? So it's never been tested?


Re: KAS Bd for auction on E-bay (USA Only)

 

wrote:?

"Likely" working? So it's never been tested?


No, it has not been tested. It was pulled from a unit that was being parted out long ago.


Re: CS-80 + FC7

 

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on further reading, immediately turn off your CS80 and then remove your pedals from the back.....

read what the 2 foot jacks say....

the word pedal is not used

one jack says foot controller..... that is for the FC7
the other says Foot Switch... that is for a switch pedal....


---- On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 00:18:23 -0600 Fernando Zarone fernandozarone@... [yamahacs80] wrote ----

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I remember this, but, afair, ?it used to work. Perhaps better to eliminate that pedal, in any case…


Il giorno 23 gen 2018, alle ore 06:39, laurie laurie@... [yamahacs80] <yamahacs80@...> ha scritto:


the original CS80 volume pedal was a lightbulb and photocell with a teardrop? shaped dowser to limit light to the photo cell...

I have yet to try my FC7s on my 80 as I once had ground rail burn out with a faulty connector short on the expression jack.... there is voltage there to power a bulb...


---- On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:22:18 -0600?Fernando Zarone?fernandozarone@...?[yamahacs80] <yamahacs80@...>?wrote ----?
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Hi all.?

After one year (moved to a new house) I switched my CS-80 on and fortunately everything still works fine, but the FC-7 connected to it. The malfunction is: when I push the pedal forward ?it raises the volume /wha-wha regularly, but when I go back down to the “low “ position, the volume takes some seconds before fading. In other words, when used fot raising the volume it works, when lowering it, it is … delayed. Like a long release…?
Any clue?
Thanks

Fernando
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Re: KAS Bd for auction on E-bay (USA Only)

 

"Likely" working? So it's never been tested?


L'il help needed..

 

Fellow CS-80 owners, with the power off, could you please do me a solid and measure the resistance between the +15V power rail on the card riser (the lower bar that the cards screw into) and ground. I am trying to figure out if the 70 ohms I'm getting is normal or if this is indicative of a partial short. Thanks! Cheers, Jonathan



KAS Bd for auction on E-bay (USA Only)

 

Hi All,


I've got a likely fully working KAS Board up for auction in the US on E-bay:


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-CS80-CS-80-vintage-synth-KAS-Board-YM-26600-and-YM-26700-IC-chips/152875868286?hash=item23981ca07e:g:oYAAAOSwRLZaXp7m


Regards,


Kyle

jkjelec