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CS80 Vanishing voices mystery
My CS80 had this problem for some time now and I'm starting to think it might be heat-related. So some voices tend to randomly go dead especially in the bank 1. It is difficult to diagnose because when I take the card out to inspect they sometimes come back....When I screw the card back sometimes they go dead again. Also when I leave my synth on ant it's hot some voices die and come back again when cold..... I live with it but I would like to get rid of this issue once for all. Did you guys had the same problem before? Maybe it is not M card problem at all but TRG board for example? |
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Looking for at least nine orders for reproduction CS-80 chrome legs from Rosen Sound
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Re: WTB: CS-80
开云体育It’s just possible. I haven’t gotten any real use out of it lately, and we may have to move from this house in the next couple of years but sadly I wouldn’t be able to take it along. I know I’m gonna have to sell the beast at some point. Contact me offline if you want to discuss.?-Tim
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Re: CS80 for sell
Daniel Forró
I have to depart with my CS80.
Good shape, everything works. Some maintenance, tuning and setting can make it even better. Original stand, pedal, score stand, wheels in original soft case. Original Owner’s manual, Service Manual & big folders full of other documents printed from internet. 11111 USD, buyer has to arrange pick up and delivery. I’m in Japan near Nagoya. Best regards. Daniel Forro |
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Re: Need A Black Key - CS80
Scott Rodriguez
Hi David, and thanks for the reply. And thanks for your website, it's been invaluable! I gave the nice guys at Studio Electronics a call, they had the keys but they seem to have recently disappeared. :( Oh well! Best, Scott On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 4:07 PM, David Rogoff david@... [yamahacs80] <yamahacs80@...> wrote:
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Re: Need A Black Key - CS80
开云体育Hi Scott.Welcome to the group! ?When I read your question, my first reaction was “not a chance!”. ? However, I thought of a couple of possibilities. ?First, the guys at Studio Electronics () dismantled / dismembered a CS80 many years ago for a project to portablize it. ?It was never finished and they sold most of the guts on eBay about a year ago. ?They might still have some of the keys around. ?Another idea, assuming you’re just talking about the plastic key top, is to get a cheap 3-D printer and make a new one! ?If you scanned the existing ones and could print up new ones, you might even have a nice, little business! Good luck, ? David
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Need A Black Key - CS80
Hello all, Scott here (synthRodriguez) and new to the group. I recently bought a CS80 project machine which will soon receive attention.?One of the black keys took a hit at some point; it has a pretty good chunk out of it. Would someone have a spare they would be willing to sell? Thanks! Scott in Ohio |
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Re: L'il help needed..
Hi Martin. please sent me too, the Excel sheet? ?my email: tommysalsero@...? Thanks?
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Re: L'il help needed..
Here are the current resistances I'm getting between all power rails on my CS-80 and ground:
+15V = 70.3 Ohms -15V = 64.5 Ohms +8.5V = 337 Ohms -6.5V = 878 Ohms +10.6V = 540 Ohms These tests were done with the power off. The -6.5V is low at 878 ohms compared to another owner's 3.95 Kohms on his currently working unit, as well as my 337 ohms compared to his 456 ohms on the +8.5 rail. |
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Re: L'il help needed..
Hey Martin,
Thanks for the additional info! My email address is: jonathan401@... I can take all the info and help I can get on this thing, so send away! I jiggled the wires on the rear keyboard PCB's and the ones toward the middle of the card riser. There are a couple of heavier-guage brown ones in particular that I was touching when I heard the popping noise. I also noticed the screw holding the TWS board to the riser was missing, which could've been another causal factor, especially if the PCB chassis was touching and detaching from the power rail. Glad to hear your poly AT is back up and running, despite the unorthodox repair - whatever works, I say! Cheers, Jonathan |
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Re: L'il help needed..
开云体育I am sorry to hear about that unfortunate event, as I mentioned on my previous post I have had to revive mine a few times and have learned a lot in the process. ?The last time it died I chased my tail for 2 years and went through just about everything and took measurments card by card and board by board, do you have an email address I could sent you my excel sheet to? ?Who knows you might find it helpful! ?As for the AT, I had to rebuild mine COMPLETELY… ?Not pretty but it works. ?A lot of my pads were entirely worn out, I applied a copper tape to the pad and the ones I replaced work better than the ones with the original coating!I don’t know if I would turn it back on just yet though, if you haven’t found out what the problem might be (did I get this right?) I doubt it would be any better now… ?Which wires did you jiggled? Let me know where to send the Excel sheet. Martin
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Re: L'il help needed..
Martin: I was fixing an issue with the polyphonic aftertouch on my CS-80. A cluster of notes was going full volume no matter how softly I played, and I'd traced to the problem to an open on the +15V aftertouch sensor rail, which I fixed with a jumper, and while I was in there removed all the keys and poly AT sensors and cleaned everything. As a side note: I found out later from a local tech here outside of Philadelphia (he services CS-80's, Paige Hamilton's CS-60 and a local GX-1), that one should be careful with what kind of cleaner you use on these, if any, as they are infused with a resistive material that can be drawn out. I used Tascam RC-1 rubber pinch roller cleaner, and am hoping I didn't do any damage.
So long story short, I forgot to pull the keyboard chassis forward before lowering the card riser, and the metal 15V rail crunched into the PCB's at the rear of the keyboard chassis. No big deal at the time, I thought, but when I powered the CS-80 back up, all the oscillators were firing, and when I started jiggling a few wires I heard a pop, which was likely the 500mA fuse blowing, and then silence. I powered it up a few times thereafter, but all I heard was a high-pitched wine and a white noise hum, and haven't turned it on since, but now that you've validated the resistance I should expect to see between the card rail and ground, I'm going to recalibrate the power supply and fire it up and see what happens. D T: I think I'm guilty of both on M-Wiggle! I expect to continue to be confused by the engineering of the CS-80, but I am enjoying learning how it works. I haven't heard about Old Crow's voice card project, but did hear back from him recently about a KAS board YM26600 retrofit he's been working on. |
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Re: L'il help needed..
Going against the grain opinion-wise or being confused are two things that do not seem to be tolerated on M-Wiggle… which is why I don’t post there. But it’s a community and they have their own thing going… doesn’t have to be everyone’s community. Still a great source of info in the end.
I love that CS-track Jonathan! This should be on another thread - but does anyone know whatever happened to Old Crow’s CS voice card project? Seems to have POOF vanished…. best - DT |
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Re: L'il help needed..
开云体育You are welcome Jonathan, sorry it took so long…Tell me, what is the actual issue with your Yamaha? ?I can’t seem to be able to find the original thread on the forum. I am no expert but I have brought mine back to life a couple times, let me know if I can help. ?Two people scratching their heads are usually better than one! Martin
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Re: L'il help needed..
开云体育Hi Jonathan,everyone has made valid points, but you are right it’s not much to ask and I finally took the time to do it. ?My measurment shows 69 ohms. ?I hope it helps. Martin?
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