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Resend of earlier query:


 

Having received no reply to my earlier message, I now am
editting and reposting it:



I use a weather packet server path of??to send
out weather information packets from my QTH.?

My K4OAM-13 station shows up fine, with all weather data, on?

However, my K4OAM-13 weather station is not shown on my YAAC map,
unless I change my weather server path to any tier2 aprs server -
such as?. Then, K4OAM-13 becomes visible on YAAC

Returning to the CWOP server (), my K4OAM-13 weather
station disappears from the YAAC map.

(All YACC filters are cleared)

Is this normal for the YAAC map displlay?

Jerry - K4OAM


 

Bear in mind that the CWOP network is for weather stations _without_ amateur radio licenses, so they will not be forwarded to the regular APRS-IS network (which could be re-transmitted to RF by transmit-capable I-gates). Note that aprs.fi (which is _not_ the APRS-IS backbone, but merely a client of the backbone) is also a client of the CWOP network and several other non-amateur-radio networks (such as the marine AIS network), which is why aprs.fi can display CWOP stations.

So this is fully expected behavior if your YAAC instance is connected to the amateur-radio APRS-IS backbone but your weather station isn't.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jerry Rector - K4OAM via groups.io <kb4oam@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2025 2:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Resend of earlier query:

Having received no reply to my earlier message, I now am
editting and reposting it:



I use a weather packet server path of cwop.aprs.net<> to send
out weather information packets from my QTH.

My K4OAM-13 station shows up fine, with all weather data, on aprs.fi<>

However, my K4OAM-13 weather station is not shown on my YAAC map,
unless I change my weather server path to any tier2 aprs server -
such as soam.aprs2.net<>. Then, K4OAM-13 becomes visible on YAAC

Returning to the CWOP server (cwop.aprs.net<>), my K4OAM-13 weather
station disappears from the YAAC map.

(All YACC filters are cleared)

Is this normal for the YAAC map displlay?

Jerry - K4OAM


 

OK Andrew...thanks for the detailed explanation.

73,
Jerry

On Sun, Jan 19, 2025 at 4:16?PM Andrew P. via <andrewemt=[email protected]> wrote:
Bear in mind that the CWOP network is for weather stations _without_ amateur radio licenses, so they will not be forwarded to the regular APRS-IS network (which could be re-transmitted to RF by transmit-capable I-gates). Note that (which is _not_ the APRS-IS backbone, but merely a client of the backbone) is also a client of the CWOP network and several other non-amateur-radio networks (such as the marine AIS network), which is why can display CWOP stations.

So this is fully expected behavior if your YAAC instance is connected to the amateur-radio APRS-IS backbone but your weather station isn't.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jerry Rector - K4OAM via <kb4oam=[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2025 2:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Resend of earlier query:

Having received no reply to my earlier message, I now am
editting and reposting it:



I use a weather packet server path of <> to send
out weather information packets from my QTH.

My K4OAM-13 station shows up fine, with all weather data, on <>

However, my K4OAM-13 weather station is not shown on my YAAC map,
unless I change my weather server path to any tier2 aprs server -
such as <>. Then, K4OAM-13 becomes visible on YAAC

Returning to the CWOP server (<>), my K4OAM-13 weather
station disappears from the YAAC map.

(All YACC filters are cleared)

Is this normal for the YAAC map displlay?

Jerry - K4OAM







 

The CWOP network was originally named APRSWXNET when it was formed in Sept 2000.? The purpose was to provide amateur radio operators a way to send their real-time weather data to NOAA.? This effort was successful and soon non-hams became interested and the network was renamed CWOP (Citizen Weather Observer Program) and a way for non-hams to send in weather data was provided.? It was?recommended that the :@ packet format be used to send weather data to CWOP.? You can see the previous ten days of traffic from CWOP members using the :@ packet format here:


and the traffic from hams using the :@ packet format?here,


Note that many hams send their weather data to CWOP servers.? Also, many hams use different?packet formats to send in their weather data and you can see them here (note that hams here also send data to CWOP servers):


Other received (supposedly erroneous) packets are here,


More information about CWOP traffic from hams and non-hams is here,


and information about?the CWOP solar radiation data base here,


All the CWOP weather data flows directly from the CWOP and APRS core servers to NCEP (National Center for Environmental Prediction).

Russ
KB0TVJ



On Sun, Jan 19, 2025 at 12:16?PM Andrew P. via <andrewemt=[email protected]> wrote:
Bear in mind that the CWOP network is for weather stations _without_ amateur radio licenses, so they will not be forwarded to the regular APRS-IS network (which could be re-transmitted to RF by transmit-capable I-gates). Note that (which is _not_ the APRS-IS backbone, but merely a client of the backbone) is also a client of the CWOP network and several other non-amateur-radio networks (such as the marine AIS network), which is why can display CWOP stations.

So this is fully expected behavior if your YAAC instance is connected to the amateur-radio APRS-IS backbone but your weather station isn't.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jerry Rector - K4OAM via <kb4oam=[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2025 2:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Resend of earlier query:

Having received no reply to my earlier message, I now am
editting and reposting it:



I use a weather packet server path of <> to send
out weather information packets from my QTH.

My K4OAM-13 station shows up fine, with all weather data, on <>

However, my K4OAM-13 weather station is not shown on my YAAC map,
unless I change my weather server path to any tier2 aprs server -
such as <>. Then, K4OAM-13 becomes visible on YAAC

Returning to the CWOP server (<>), my K4OAM-13 weather
station disappears from the YAAC map.

(All YACC filters are cleared)

Is this normal for the YAAC map displlay?

Jerry - K4OAM







 

Russ - Thanks for the added clarification on CWOP.? I was certain it was for hams initially,
and I understand the addition of non-ham submitters to CWOP would cause problems
if their weather data was propagated by ham digipeaters.

Yours and Andrew's replies to my query makes the subject crystal clear.

Tnx and 73
Jerry

On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 4:06?PM Russ Chadwick via <russ4cwop=[email protected]> wrote:
The CWOP network was originally named APRSWXNET when it was formed in Sept 2000.? The purpose was to provide amateur radio operators a way to send their real-time weather data to NOAA.? This effort was successful and soon non-hams became interested and the network was renamed CWOP (Citizen Weather Observer Program) and a way for non-hams to send in weather data was provided.? It was?recommended that the :@ packet format be used to send weather data to CWOP.? You can see the previous ten days of traffic from CWOP members using the :@ packet format here:


and the traffic from hams using the :@ packet format?here,


Note that many hams send their weather data to CWOP servers.? Also, many hams use different?packet formats to send in their weather data and you can see them here (note that hams here also send data to CWOP servers):


Other received (supposedly erroneous) packets are here,


More information about CWOP traffic from hams and non-hams is here,


and information about?the CWOP solar radiation data base here,


All the CWOP weather data flows directly from the CWOP and APRS core servers to NCEP (National Center for Environmental Prediction).

Russ
KB0TVJ



On Sun, Jan 19, 2025 at 12:16?PM Andrew P. via <andrewemt=[email protected]> wrote:
Bear in mind that the CWOP network is for weather stations _without_ amateur radio licenses, so they will not be forwarded to the regular APRS-IS network (which could be re-transmitted to RF by transmit-capable I-gates). Note that (which is _not_ the APRS-IS backbone, but merely a client of the backbone) is also a client of the CWOP network and several other non-amateur-radio networks (such as the marine AIS network), which is why can display CWOP stations.

So this is fully expected behavior if your YAAC instance is connected to the amateur-radio APRS-IS backbone but your weather station isn't.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jerry Rector - K4OAM via <kb4oam=[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2025 2:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Resend of earlier query:

Having received no reply to my earlier message, I now am
editting and reposting it:



I use a weather packet server path of <> to send
out weather information packets from my QTH.

My K4OAM-13 station shows up fine, with all weather data, on <>

However, my K4OAM-13 weather station is not shown on my YAAC map,
unless I change my weather server path to any tier2 aprs server -
such as <>. Then, K4OAM-13 becomes visible on YAAC

Returning to the CWOP server (<>), my K4OAM-13 weather
station disappears from the YAAC map.

(All YACC filters are cleared)

Is this normal for the YAAC map displlay?

Jerry - K4OAM