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Another question. On my base configuration, at the bottom of the screen, there are three boxes, TO, VIA, and Message, followed by a SEND button. I can put in a callsign, a path, and some text, hit send and it goes to that station. However, on my just configured mobile, only the TO and VIA boxes are visible. The TEXT box and the SEND button are missing.
Is this a configuration issue? Or because I am using a much smaller screen (22" on base, 7" on mobile)?
Thanks,
Michael WA7SKG
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That is too bad. Perhaps I am misinformed or have misunderstood, but I thought the whole purpose of APRS was to cater to the mobile user to provide a quick and easy method of reporting position, status, and brief messages. Mobile operation, by its nature, necessitates smaller screens and demands minimal operator actions to accomplish a task. The system should be driven to meet that situation, rather than make it more difficult for the primary purpose.
Maybe I am missing the point of APRS. Perhaps further investigation is in order.
Michael WA7SKG
Andrew P. wrote on 12/27/19 6:24 PM:
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It's because your window is too small. The rightmost controls in the footer are being drawn off-screen because they don't fit in the allowed window space.
There are menu choices to get you the same functionality in a smaller window.
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Date: 12/27/19 20:16 (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Message box
Another question. On my base configuration, at the bottom of the screen,
there are three boxes, TO, VIA, and Message, followed by a SEND button.
I can put in a callsign, a path, and some text, hit send and it goes to
that station. However, on my just configured mobile, only the TO and VIA
boxes are visible. The TEXT box and the SEND button are missing.
Is this a configuration issue? Or because I am using a much smaller
screen (22" on base, 7" on mobile)?
Thanks,
Michael WA7SKG
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Michael, Andrew said menu choices will get you where you want to go on your smaller screen. Then you say too bad? Did I misunderstand this exchange?
Chris
----------------------------------------- From: "Michael WA7SKG" To: "Andrew P.", " [email protected]" Cc: Sent: Saturday December 28 2019 6:05:11AM Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Message box That is too bad. Perhaps I am misinformed or have misunderstood, but I
thought the whole purpose of APRS was to cater to the mobile user to
provide a quick and easy method of reporting position, status, and brief
messages. Mobile operation, by its nature, necessitates smaller screens
and demands minimal operator actions to accomplish a task. The system
should be driven to meet that situation, rather than make it more
difficult for the primary purpose.
Maybe I am missing the point of APRS. Perhaps further investigation is
in order.
Michael WA7SKG
Andrew P. wrote on 12/27/19 6:24 PM:
> It's because your window is too small. The rightmost controls in the
> footer are being drawn off-screen because they don't fit in the allowed
> window space.
>
> There are menu choices to get you the same functionality in a smaller
> window.
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
> Date: 12/27/19 20:16 (GMT-05:00)
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [yaac-users] Message box
>
> Another question. On my base configuration, at the bottom of the screen,
> there are three boxes, TO, VIA, and Message, followed by a SEND button.
> I can put in a callsign, a path, and some text, hit send and it goes to
> that station. However, on my just configured mobile, only the TO and VIA
> boxes are visible. The TEXT box and the SEND button are missing.
>
> Is this a configuration issue? Or because I am using a much smaller
> screen (22" on base, 7" on mobile)?
>
> Thanks,
> Michael WA7SKG
>
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Let me clarify. YAAC's screens were designed for a conventional laptop PC, with minimally 1024x768 pixels to work with. They weren't designed for low-resolution screens, because it's too hard to draw a usable map with limited pixels. So the screen layout assumed that there would be enough width to display all the messaging controls at the bottom of the map window. The menu choice Message->Station provides the same functionality in a popup dialog window, but has the fields in different lines, so it may not require as much screen width. I have been contemplating an alternate screen for low-res mobile operations (such as the 7" touchscreen for Raspberry Pi), but haven't come up with a layout I like yet that will fit in such a tiny space and still be operable with fat fingers on a touchscreen. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 11:13 AM To: ' [email protected]' Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Message box Michael, Andrew said menu choices will get you where you want to go on your smaller screen. Then you say too bad? Did I misunderstand this exchange? Chris ----------------------------------------- From: "Michael WA7SKG" To: "Andrew P.", " [email protected]" Cc: Sent: Saturday December 28 2019 6:05:11AM Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Message box That is too bad. Perhaps I am misinformed or have misunderstood, but I thought the whole purpose of APRS was to cater to the mobile user to provide a quick and easy method of reporting position, status, and brief messages. Mobile operation, by its nature, necessitates smaller screens and demands minimal operator actions to accomplish a task. The system should be driven to meet that situation, rather than make it more difficult for the primary purpose. Maybe I am missing the point of APRS. Perhaps further investigation is in order. Michael WA7SKG Andrew P. wrote on 12/27/19 6:24 PM: It's because your window is too small. The rightmost controls in the
footer are being drawn off-screen because they don't fit in the allowed
window space.
There are menu choices to get you the same functionality in a smaller
window.
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Date: 12/27/19 20:16 (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Message box
Another question. On my base configuration, at the bottom of the screen,
there are three boxes, TO, VIA, and Message, followed by a SEND button.
I can put in a callsign, a path, and some text, hit send and it goes to
that station. However, on my just configured mobile, only the TO and VIA
boxes are visible. The TEXT box and the SEND button are missing.
Is this a configuration issue? Or because I am using a much smaller
screen (22" on base, 7" on mobile)?
Thanks,
Michael WA7SKG
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Hmm, maybe I'm missing the point too - of WA7SKG's complaint. I have been using APRS or nearly
20 years, fixed station and mobile. Most of the time mobile I have been satisfied with the
non-graphic display of a Kenwood D700/710. When I needed a full graphic display of APRS-FI,
UI-View or YAAC it wasn't a big deal to use my iPad or connect a laptop. No doubt a format
suitable for a 7" display connected to an RPi would be useful but APRS has been useful without
it for a long time. If Andrew can come up with a suitable layout for use with YAAC that would
be great but it is more important to get it right than to just get it released.
Bob G0BUX/W0BUX
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Show quoted text
On 2019-12-28 17:07, Andrew P. wrote: Let me clarify.
YAAC's screens were designed for a conventional laptop PC, with
minimally 1024x768 pixels to work with. They weren't designed for
low-resolution screens, because it's too hard to draw a usable map
with limited pixels. So the screen layout assumed that there would be
enough width to display all the messaging controls at the bottom of
the map window.
The menu choice Message->Station provides the same functionality in a
popup dialog window, but has the fields in different lines, so it may
not require as much screen width.
I have been contemplating an alternate screen for low-res mobile
operations (such as the 7" touchscreen for Raspberry Pi), but haven't
come up with a layout I like yet that will fit in such a tiny space
and still be operable with fat fingers on a touchscreen.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 11:13 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Message box
Michael, Andrew said menu choices will get you where you want to go
on your smaller screen. Then you say too bad? Did I misunderstand this
exchange?
Chris
-----------------------------------------
From: "Michael WA7SKG"
To: "Andrew P.", "[email protected]"
Cc:
Sent: Saturday December 28 2019 6:05:11AM
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Message box
That is too bad. Perhaps I am misinformed or have misunderstood, but I
thought the whole purpose of APRS was to cater to the mobile user to
provide a quick and easy method of reporting position, status, and brief
messages. Mobile operation, by its nature, necessitates smaller screens
and demands minimal operator actions to accomplish a task. The system
should be driven to meet that situation, rather than make it more
difficult for the primary purpose.
Maybe I am missing the point of APRS. Perhaps further investigation is
in order.
Michael WA7SKG
Andrew P. wrote on 12/27/19 6:24 PM:
It's because your window is too small. The rightmost controls in the
footer are being drawn off-screen because they don't fit in the allowed
window space.
There are menu choices to get you the same functionality in a smaller
window.
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Date: 12/27/19 20:16 (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Message box
Another question. On my base configuration, at the bottom of the screen,
there are three boxes, TO, VIA, and Message, followed by a SEND button.
I can put in a callsign, a path, and some text, hit send and it goes to
that station. However, on my just configured mobile, only the TO and VIA
boxes are visible. The TEXT box and the SEND button are missing.
Is this a configuration issue? Or because I am using a much smaller
screen (22" on base, 7" on mobile)?
Thanks,
Michael WA7SKG
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I believe you misunderstood the intent. Perhaps you only read the first sentence and did not read and comprehend the full message thread for context. The meaning was, it is too bad the only way to update the status was to go through multiple menus requiring at least six clicks on a tiny touchscreen for a simple status change. If this was something that only changed say once a month or so, that is one thing. For something that could conceivably change a dozen times per day, it is too bad it is so complex a function.
I hope that clears it up for you.
73,
Michael WA7SKG
Christopher Rose wrote on 12/28/19 8:13 AM:
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Michael, Andrew said menu choices will get you where you want to go on your smaller screen. Then you say too bad? Did I misunderstand this exchange?
Chris
-----------------------------------------
From: "Michael WA7SKG"
To: "Andrew P.", "[email protected]"
Cc:
Sent: Saturday December 28 2019 6:05:11AM
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Message box
That is too bad. Perhaps I am misinformed or have misunderstood, but I
thought the whole purpose of APRS was to cater to the mobile user to
provide a quick and easy method of reporting position, status, and brief
messages. Mobile operation, by its nature, necessitates smaller screens
and demands minimal operator actions to accomplish a task. The system
should be driven to meet that situation, rather than make it more
difficult for the primary purpose.
Maybe I am missing the point of APRS. Perhaps further investigation is
in order.
Michael WA7SKG
Andrew P. wrote on 12/27/19 6:24 PM:
> It's because your window is too small. The rightmost controls in the
> footer are being drawn off-screen because they don't fit in the allowed
> window space.
>
> There are menu choices to get you the same functionality in a smaller
> window.
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
> Date: 12/27/19 20:16 (GMT-05:00)
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [yaac-users] Message box
>
> Another question. On my base configuration, at the bottom of the screen,
> there are three boxes, TO, VIA, and Message, followed by a SEND button.
> I can put in a callsign, a path, and some text, hit send and it goes to
> that station. However, on my just configured mobile, only the TO and VIA
> boxes are visible. The TEXT box and the SEND button are missing.
>
> Is this a configuration issue? Or because I am using a much smaller
> screen (22" on base, 7" on mobile)?
>
> Thanks,
> Michael WA7SKG
>
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I'll second the vote for a smaller footprint display, if it's possible.
In my case, I have the Pi hooked into my car's in-dash unit (back-up
camera port), which has a VGA display resolution. Mostly it seems to
affect the configuration pages, where stuff ends up below or off to the
side of the screen, but there aren't any scroll bars to access it. I
think simply triggering the scroll bars for those screens would make it
usable.
Lacking the scroll bars, what I do now is to access the Pi with VNC, and
that display is configured for 1024/768 resolution.
Greg KO6TH
rhclinton wrote:
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Hmm, maybe I'm missing the point too - of WA7SKG's complaint. I have
been using APRS or nearly
20 years, fixed station and mobile. Most of the time mobile I have
been satisfied with the
non-graphic display of a Kenwood D700/710. When I needed a full
graphic display of APRS-FI,
UI-View or YAAC it wasn't a big deal to use my iPad or connect a
laptop. No doubt a format
suitable for a 7" display connected to an RPi would be useful but APRS
has been useful without
it for a long time. If Andrew can come up with a suitable layout for
use with YAAC that would
be great but it is more important to get it right than to just get
it released.
Bob G0BUX/W0BUX
On 2019-12-28 17:07, Andrew P. wrote:
Let me clarify.
YAAC's screens were designed for a conventional laptop PC, with
minimally 1024x768 pixels to work with. They weren't designed for
low-resolution screens, because it's too hard to draw a usable map
with limited pixels. So the screen layout assumed that there would be
enough width to display all the messaging controls at the bottom of
the map window.
The menu choice Message->Station provides the same functionality in a
popup dialog window, but has the fields in different lines, so it may
not require as much screen width.
I have been contemplating an alternate screen for low-res mobile
operations (such as the 7" touchscreen for Raspberry Pi), but haven't
come up with a layout I like yet that will fit in such a tiny space
and still be operable with fat fingers on a touchscreen.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 11:13 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Message box
Michael, Andrew said menu choices will get you where you want to go
on your smaller screen. Then you say too bad? Did I misunderstand this
exchange?
Chris
-----------------------------------------
From: "Michael WA7SKG"
To: "Andrew P.", "[email protected]"
Cc:
Sent: Saturday December 28 2019 6:05:11AM
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Message box
That is too bad. Perhaps I am misinformed or have misunderstood, but I
thought the whole purpose of APRS was to cater to the mobile user to
provide a quick and easy method of reporting position, status, and brief
messages. Mobile operation, by its nature, necessitates smaller screens
and demands minimal operator actions to accomplish a task. The system
should be driven to meet that situation, rather than make it more
difficult for the primary purpose.
Maybe I am missing the point of APRS. Perhaps further investigation is
in order.
Michael WA7SKG
Andrew P. wrote on 12/27/19 6:24 PM:
It's because your window is too small. The rightmost controls in the
footer are being drawn off-screen because they don't fit in the allowed
window space.
There are menu choices to get you the same functionality in a smaller
window.
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Date: 12/27/19 20:16 (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Message box
Another question. On my base configuration, at the bottom of the
screen,
there are three boxes, TO, VIA, and Message, followed by a SEND button.
I can put in a callsign, a path, and some text, hit send and it goes to
that station. However, on my just configured mobile, only the TO and
VIA
boxes are visible. The TEXT box and the SEND button are missing.
Is this a configuration issue? Or because I am using a much smaller
screen (22" on base, 7" on mobile)?
Thanks,
Michael WA7SKG
|
Okay, I am new to this. I am happy you have $600 for a new radio for APRS, I do not. To begin with, I have to use existing or low cost equipment. For my desired purpose, I am using equipment dedicated to the purpose, in place and in use all the time. The goal is to provide position and status reporting in real time, as well as to send and receive short messages. I would also be interested in seeing other stations in my vicinity. When I originally brought this up on various forums, the overwhelming reply was to use YAAC for the purpose, even after explaining my equipment configuration.
My biggest complaint with ham radio operators today, is they don't understand why their particular solution is the only one and if it works for them, then everybody should accept that is the way to go. If your solution works for you, that is great. However, if your particular solution does not fit my need, there is no need to chastise me for wanting something different than you do.
At this time, a larger, higher resolution screen is not an option for me. Granted, I may have to consider that option in the future, but it would require a significant restructuring of my installation. To arrive at a location and need to change my status a bunch of times per day, I don't have time to connect a laptop in the vehicle, fire it up, launch programs, run through menus and make a status update.
If there is a non-graphical client for APRS that will provide the information I need and able to quickly update status and message information, and run on my existing hardware, that would be fine. As of now, I have yet to find such software.
rhclinton wrote on 12/28/19 9:26 AM:
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Show quoted text
Hmm,? maybe I'm missing the point too - of WA7SKG's complaint.? I have been using APRS or nearly
20 years, fixed station and mobile.? Most of the time mobile I have been satisfied with the
non-graphic display of a Kenwood D700/710.? When I needed a full graphic display of APRS-FI,
UI-View or YAAC it wasn't a big deal to use my iPad or connect a laptop.? No doubt? a format
suitable for a 7" display connected to an RPi would be useful but APRS has been useful without
it for a long time.? If Andrew can come up with a suitable layout for use with YAAC that would
be great but it is more important to get it right than? to? just get it released.
Bob? G0BUX/W0BUX
On 2019-12-28 17:07, Andrew P. wrote:
Let me clarify.
YAAC's screens were designed for a conventional laptop PC, with
minimally 1024x768 pixels to work with. They weren't designed for
low-resolution screens, because it's too hard to draw a usable map
with limited pixels. So the screen layout assumed that there would be
enough width to display all the messaging controls at the bottom of
the map window.
The menu choice Message->Station provides the same functionality in a
popup dialog window, but has the fields in different lines, so it may
not require as much screen width.
I have been contemplating an alternate screen for low-res mobile
operations (such as the 7" touchscreen for Raspberry Pi), but haven't
come up with a layout I like yet that will fit in such a tiny space
and still be operable with fat fingers on a touchscreen.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 11:13 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Message box
Michael, Andrew said menu choices will get you where you want to go
on your smaller screen. Then you say too bad? Did I misunderstand this
exchange?
Chris
-----------------------------------------
From: "Michael WA7SKG"
To: "Andrew P.", "[email protected]"
Cc:
Sent: Saturday December 28 2019 6:05:11AM
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Message box
That is too bad. Perhaps I am misinformed or have misunderstood, but I
thought the whole purpose of APRS was to cater to the mobile user to
provide a quick and easy method of reporting position, status, and brief
messages. Mobile operation, by its nature, necessitates smaller screens
and demands minimal operator actions to accomplish a task. The system
should be driven to meet that situation, rather than make it more
difficult for the primary purpose.
Maybe I am missing the point of APRS. Perhaps further investigation is
in order.
Michael WA7SKG
Andrew P. wrote on 12/27/19 6:24 PM:
It's because your window is too small. The rightmost controls in the
footer are being drawn off-screen because they don't fit in the allowed
window space.
There are menu choices to get you the same functionality in a smaller
window.
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Date: 12/27/19 20:16 (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Message box
Another question. On my base configuration, at the bottom of the screen,
there are three boxes, TO, VIA, and Message, followed by a SEND button.
I can put in a callsign, a path, and some text, hit send and it goes to
that station. However, on my just configured mobile, only the TO and VIA
boxes are visible. The TEXT box and the SEND button are missing.
Is this a configuration issue? Or because I am using a much smaller
screen (22" on base, 7" on mobile)?
Thanks,
Michael WA7SKG
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I’ve been following this topic with interest as I have been using APRS
since it started in ‘92 and downloaded it from BBS’s! It sounds to me that
Bob Bruninga’s original APRS would suit your purpose fine. It is low
resolution and easy to use for messaging etc as that was one of his
original concepts
You can still get APRS876 from Bob’s site and then run it under QEMU on the
RPi.
Also wanted to say that Andrew is doing a great job meeting the various
constituencies within amateur radio with YAAC and many kudos to him for
doing this and also for free!
Bob AB2NE
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I’ve been following this topic with interest as I have been using APRS
since it started in ‘92 and downloaded it from BBS’s! It sounds to me that
Bob Bruninga’s original APRS would suit your purpose fine. It is low
resolution and easy to use for messaging etc as that was one of his
original concepts
You can still get APRS876 from Bob’s site and then run it under QEMU on the
RPi.
Also wanted to say that Andrew is doing a great job meeting the various
constituencies within amateur radio with YAAC and many kudos to him for
doing this and also for free!
Bob AB2NE
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 16:19 Michael WA7SKG < wa7skg@...> wrote: Okay, I am new to this. I am happy you have $600 for a new radio for
APRS, I do not. To begin with, I have to use existing or low cost
equipment. For my desired purpose, I am using equipment dedicated to the
purpose, in place and in use all the time. The goal is to provide
position and status reporting in real time, as well as to send and
receive short messages. I would also be interested in seeing other
stations in my vicinity. When I originally brought this up on various
forums, the overwhelming reply was to use YAAC for the purpose, even
after explaining my equipment configuration.
My biggest complaint with ham radio operators today, is they don't
understand why their particular solution is the only one and if it works
for them, then everybody should accept that is the way to go. If your
solution works for you, that is great. However, if your particular
solution does not fit my need, there is no need to chastise me for
wanting something different than you do.
At this time, a larger, higher resolution screen is not an option for
me. Granted, I may have to consider that option in the future, but it
would require a significant restructuring of my installation. To arrive
at a location and need to change my status a bunch of times per day, I
don't have time to connect a laptop in the vehicle, fire it up, launch
programs, run through menus and make a status update.
If there is a non-graphical client for APRS that will provide the
information I need and able to quickly update status and message
information, and run on my existing hardware, that would be fine. As of
now, I have yet to find such software.
rhclinton wrote on 12/28/19 9:26 AM:
> Hmm,? maybe I'm missing the point too - of WA7SKG's complaint.? I have
> been using APRS or nearly
> 20 years, fixed station and mobile.? Most of the time mobile I have been
> satisfied with the
> non-graphic display of a Kenwood D700/710.? When I needed a full graphic
> display of APRS-FI,
> UI-View or YAAC it wasn't a big deal to use my iPad or connect a
> laptop.? No doubt? a format
> suitable for a 7" display connected to an RPi would be useful but APRS
> has been useful without
> it for a long time.? If Andrew can come up with a suitable layout for
> use with YAAC that would
> be great but it is more important to get it right than? to? just get it
> released.
>
> Bob? G0BUX/W0BUX
>
>
> On 2019-12-28 17:07, Andrew P. wrote:
>> Let me clarify.
>>
>> YAAC's screens were designed for a conventional laptop PC, with
>> minimally 1024x768 pixels to work with. They weren't designed for
>> low-resolution screens, because it's too hard to draw a usable map
>> with limited pixels. So the screen layout assumed that there would be
>> enough width to display all the messaging controls at the bottom of
>> the map window.
>>
>> The menu choice Message->Station provides the same functionality in a
>> popup dialog window, but has the fields in different lines, so it may
>> not require as much screen width.
>>
>> I have been contemplating an alternate screen for low-res mobile
>> operations (such as the 7" touchscreen for Raspberry Pi), but haven't
>> come up with a layout I like yet that will fit in such a tiny space
>> and still be operable with fat fingers on a touchscreen.
>>
>> Andrew, KA2DDO
>> author of YAAC
>> ________________________________________
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
>> Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 11:13 AM
>> To: '[email protected]'
>> Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Message box
>>
>> Michael, Andrew said menu choices will get you where you want to go
>> on your smaller screen. Then you say too bad? Did I misunderstand this
>> exchange?
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> -----------------------------------------
>>
>> From: "Michael WA7SKG"
>> To: "Andrew P.", "[email protected]"
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Saturday December 28 2019 6:05:11AM
>> Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Message box
>>
>> That is too bad. Perhaps I am misinformed or have misunderstood, but I
>> thought the whole purpose of APRS was to cater to the mobile user to
>> provide a quick and easy method of reporting position, status, and brief
>> messages. Mobile operation, by its nature, necessitates smaller screens
>> and demands minimal operator actions to accomplish a task. The system
>> should be driven to meet that situation, rather than make it more
>> difficult for the primary purpose.
>>
>> Maybe I am missing the point of APRS. Perhaps further investigation is
>> in order.
>>
>> Michael WA7SKG
>>
>>
>> Andrew P. wrote on 12/27/19 6:24 PM:
>>> It's because your window is too small. The rightmost controls in the
>>> footer are being drawn off-screen because they don't fit in the allowed
>>> window space.
>>>
>>> There are menu choices to get you the same functionality in a smaller
>>> window.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
>>> Date: 12/27/19 20:16 (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: [yaac-users] Message box
>>>
>>> Another question. On my base configuration, at the bottom of the screen,
>>> there are three boxes, TO, VIA, and Message, followed by a SEND button.
>>> I can put in a callsign, a path, and some text, hit send and it goes to
>>> that station. However, on my just configured mobile, only the TO and VIA
>>> boxes are visible. The TEXT box and the SEND button are missing.
>>>
>>> Is this a configuration issue? Or because I am using a much smaller
>>> screen (22" on base, 7" on mobile)?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Michael WA7SKG
>>>
>>
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I want to make one thing absolutely clear here. I most certainly am not putting down Andrew or discrediting his work in any way. Yes, I have had a hard time understanding parts of it, but that is more my fault than his.
Let me go on record that I highly regard Andrew and his work on this subject. He has gone far and above the call in his endeavors and is to be commended. I think he is really bending over backward in his patience with me and working these issues both on and off the forum.
I may not always communicate things well, and often, especially in a new (to me) subject area, I may not necessarily describe things in a manner that those who have been using the system for years may recognize. I think Andrew recognizes this and I greatly appreciate his patience and willingness to work with me on this. Whether this results in a successful implementation of YAAC for my mobile operation remains to be seen. If it does not and I need to follow another route, so be it. However, for my base operation, it seems to be meeting the needs nicely and, as Andrew continues to work with me, should result in a robust system that meets by objectives.
Thank you for your time.
Michael WA7SKG
Bob Evans wrote on 12/28/19 1:41 PM:
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Also wanted to say that Andrew is doing a great job meeting the various
constituencies within amateur radio with YAAC and many kudos to him for
doing this and also for free!
Bob AB2NE
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Michael WA7SKG