Return TNC From KISS Mode ???

Michael WA7SKG All Messages By This Member #1366 Any more thoughts on getting out of KISS mode? Michael WA7SKG Michael WA7SKG wrote on 2/3/22 4:47 PM: toggle quoted message Show quoted text TNC MFJ-1274 with updated TAPR firmware 1.1.8 Computer is a Dell with actual motherboard serial port (not USB adapter) Linux Mint OS I believe this used to work, but I haven't fooled with it for a couple years. Now, I need to switch between APRS and WinLink. I've been struggling with pat, so I have an A/B switch to toggle between the Linux computer running YAAC and the Windows computer running WinLink Express. I can't get WinLink to work with the KISS mode for some reason. I'm dealing with that separately. I'm hoping that if I can get the TNC to switch back out of KISS mode, then maybe WinLink will work. In all likelihood, I'll just end up putting in another radio and use direwolf or something for Winlink. Michael WA7SKG Andrew P. wrote on 2/3/22 4:33 PM: Hmmm.... What make and model of TNC are you using? And what make/model of serial port to connect it to your computer? Also, what operating system and version thereof are you using? Windows 11? Ubuntu Linux? etc... ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2022 7:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Return TNC From KISS Mode Okay, if I am looking at the right things... Port Type Serial_TNC Command string: KISS ON\r\wRESTART\r I was closing YAAC with the X at the upper right corner. I tried with File > Exit Program but it appears the TNC remains in KISS mode. I double checked there were no extra YAAC windows open anywhere. I just upgraded from 164 to 170 to be sure I didn't miss anything, no change. Next idea? Thanks for your time, Michael Andrew P. wrote on 2/3/22 3:37 PM: If you shut down YAAC properly, and have the Serial_TNC port configured with a non-blank (not the KISS-only TNC mode) command string to switch the TNC to KISS mode, YAAC should send the KISS command to exit KISS mode. If you did not let YAAC automatically put the TNC into KISS mode, then it won't take it out. Note that killing YAAC with the Linux "kill" command or with Windows Task Manager does not give YAAC a chance to send the "exit KISS" command to the TNC. Also, YAAC has to be completely down (no iconified windows still lurking on the desktop). ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2022 6:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [yaac-users] Return TNC From KISS Mode When I launch YAAC, it puts my TNC into KISS mode. If I want to do something else with my TNC after closing YAAC, how do I get it out of KISS mode? I'm trying to run WinLink and it does not seem to work with my TNC in KISS mode. I seem to remember a discussion about this a long time ago, but don't remember how it works. I really don't want to have to open the TNC and pull the battery to get it out of KISS mode. Thanks for any ideas. -- 73, Michael WA7SKG "Any day you do not learn one new thing is a wasted day."
Andrew P. All Messages By This Member #1367 Actually, no, not yet. With your configuration, YAAC should be sending a KISS protocol frame with the command code 0xFF as the first and only byte in the frame. By the KISS protocol specification, this should tell a TNC to come out of KISS mode. The question is, is the command frame getting fully sent before the serial port connection is closed? There may be a serial port buffer flushing issue, depending on how the JSSC library handles a serial port write immediately followed by a close. There certainly isn't a mechanism presently in JSSC to force the application to wait until all the queued bytes are transmitted. I'll try implementing a timed wait after the "exit KISS" command is sent before closing the serial port, to ensure there is enough time for the three bytes of the command to actually get "on the wire" and over to the TNC before the operating system closes the serial port (and possibly discards queued but unsent bytes). Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> Sent: Friday, February 4, 2022 1:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Return TNC From KISS Mode ??? Any more thoughts on getting out of KISS mode? Michael WA7SKG Michael WA7SKG wrote on 2/3/22 4:47 PM: TNC MFJ-1274 with updated TAPR firmware 1.1.8 Computer is a Dell with actual motherboard serial port (not USB adapter) Linux Mint OS I believe this used to work, but I haven't fooled with it for a couple years. Now, I need to switch between APRS and WinLink. I've been struggling with pat, so I have an A/B switch to toggle between the Linux computer running YAAC and the Windows computer running WinLink Express. I can't get WinLink to work with the KISS mode for some reason. I'm dealing with that separately. I'm hoping that if I can get the TNC to switch back out of KISS mode, then maybe WinLink will work. In all likelihood, I'll just end up putting in another radio and use direwolf or something for Winlink. Michael WA7SKG Andrew P. wrote on 2/3/22 4:33 PM: Hmmm.... What make and model of TNC are you using? And what make/model of serial port to connect it to your computer? Also, what operating system and version thereof are you using? Windows 11? Ubuntu Linux? etc... ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2022 7:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Return TNC From KISS Mode Okay, if I am looking at the right things... Port Type Serial_TNC Command string: KISS ON\r\wRESTART\r I was closing YAAC with the X at the upper right corner. I tried with File > Exit Program but it appears the TNC remains in KISS mode. I double checked there were no extra YAAC windows open anywhere. I just upgraded from 164 to 170 to be sure I didn't miss anything, no change. Next idea? Thanks for your time, Michael Andrew P. wrote on 2/3/22 3:37 PM: If you shut down YAAC properly, and have the Serial_TNC port configured with a non-blank (not the KISS-only TNC mode) command string to switch the TNC to KISS mode, YAAC should send the KISS command to exit KISS mode. If you did not let YAAC automatically put the TNC into KISS mode, then it won't take it out. Note that killing YAAC with the Linux "kill" command or with Windows Task Manager does not give YAAC a chance to send the "exit KISS" command to the TNC. Also, YAAC has to be completely down (no iconified windows still lurking on the desktop). ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2022 6:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [yaac-users] Return TNC From KISS Mode When I launch YAAC, it puts my TNC into KISS mode. If I want to do something else with my TNC after closing YAAC, how do I get it out of KISS mode? I'm trying to run WinLink and it does not seem to work with my TNC in KISS mode. I seem to remember a discussion about this a long time ago, but don't remember how it works. I really don't want to have to open the TNC and pull the battery to get it out of KISS mode. Thanks for any ideas. -- 73, Michael WA7SKG "Any day you do not learn one new thing is a wasted day."
Brian Webster All Messages By This Member #1368 In the mfj manual for a 1270/1274 manual it mentions that you can issue the command "parm ax0 255" from TCPIP/JNOS program to exit kiss mode from the JNOW prompt. I seem to recall another keyboard sequence to exit kiss back in the day but that may be for another brand. The manual also says you can remove jumper 5 for a bit then reinstall it. You might want to install an external switch for that jump point. If you have the proper type of kiss port set up (in this case serial_TNC) you would use the "TNC2 kiss" type and not kiss only! That should tell the TNC to exit kiss mode when closing the program. Brian N2KGC toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael WA7SKG Sent: Friday, February 4, 2022 1:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Return TNC From KISS Mode ??? Any more thoughts on getting out of KISS mode? Michael WA7SKG Michael WA7SKG wrote on 2/3/22 4:47 PM: TNC MFJ-1274 with updated TAPR firmware 1.1.8 Computer is a Dell with actual motherboard serial port (not USB adapter) Linux Mint OS I believe this used to work, but I haven't fooled with it for a couple years. Now, I need to switch between APRS and WinLink. I've been struggling with pat, so I have an A/B switch to toggle between the Linux computer running YAAC and the Windows computer running WinLink Express. I can't get WinLink to work with the KISS mode for some reason. I'm dealing with that separately. I'm hoping that if I can get the TNC to switch back out of KISS mode, then maybe WinLink will work. In all likelihood, I'll just end up putting in another radio and use direwolf or something for Winlink. Michael WA7SKG Andrew P. wrote on 2/3/22 4:33 PM: Hmmm.... What make and model of TNC are you using? And what make/model of serial port to connect it to your computer? Also, what operating system and version thereof are you using? Windows 11? Ubuntu Linux? etc... ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2022 7:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Return TNC From KISS Mode Okay, if I am looking at the right things... Port Type Serial_TNC Command string: KISS ON\r\wRESTART\r I was closing YAAC with the X at the upper right corner. I tried with File > Exit Program but it appears the TNC remains in KISS mode. I double checked there were no extra YAAC windows open anywhere. I just upgraded from 164 to 170 to be sure I didn't miss anything, no change. Next idea? Thanks for your time, Michael Andrew P. wrote on 2/3/22 3:37 PM: If you shut down YAAC properly, and have the Serial_TNC port configured with a non-blank (not the KISS-only TNC mode) command string to switch the TNC to KISS mode, YAAC should send the KISS command to exit KISS mode. If you did not let YAAC automatically put the TNC into KISS mode, then it won't take it out. Note that killing YAAC with the Linux "kill" command or with Windows Task Manager does not give YAAC a chance to send the "exit KISS" command to the TNC. Also, YAAC has to be completely down (no iconified windows still lurking on the desktop). ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2022 6:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [yaac-users] Return TNC From KISS Mode When I launch YAAC, it puts my TNC into KISS mode. If I want to do something else with my TNC after closing YAAC, how do I get it out of KISS mode? I'm trying to run WinLink and it does not seem to work with my TNC in KISS mode. I seem to remember a discussion about this a long time ago, but don't remember how it works. I really don't want to have to open the TNC and pull the battery to get it out of KISS mode. Thanks for any ideas. -- 73, Michael WA7SKG "Any day you do not learn one new thing is a wasted day."
Michael WA7SKG All Messages By This Member #1369 Well, most of that went over my head, sorry. Is the TCPIP/JNOS program an app that I can run? I've never seen a JNOW prompt. Do I see that in the TCPIP/JNOS program? The way equipment is configured, it is not at all easy to get into the TNC to do anything with jumpers. An added switch may ultimately be necessary, though. Of course if I could get WinLink Express to work with the TNC in KISS mode, then it wouldn't be an issue. What I am actually doing here is, I have YAAC 24/7 running on a Linux Mint computer. Occasionally, I have to use Winlink, so I have an A/B switch box to switch the serial connection from the Linux computer to the Windows computer to run WinLink Express. So, I close YAAC, flip the switch, change frequency, launch WinLink Express, and do the Winlink thing. When done, I close Winlink, flip the switch, back to the APRS frequency, launch YAAC, and everything is back to normal. At least, that is the plan. Not a lot of luck so far. I can connect to the TNC with PuTTY and see traffic, but Winlink does not seem to connect. I am assuming it is because the TNC is still in KISS mode. The struggle continues. Michael WA7SKG Brian Webster via groups.io wrote on 2/4/22 2:47 PM: toggle quoted message Show quoted text In the mfj manual for a 1270/1274 manual it mentions that you can issue the command "parm ax0 255" from TCPIP/JNOS program to exit kiss mode from the JNOW prompt. I seem to recall another keyboard sequence to exit kiss back in the day but that may be for another brand. The manual also says you can remove jumper 5 for a bit then reinstall it. You might want to install an external switch for that jump point. If you have the proper type of kiss port set up (in this case serial_TNC) you would use the "TNC2 kiss" type and not kiss only! That should tell the TNC to exit kiss mode when closing the program. Brian N2KGC -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael WA7SKG Sent: Friday, February 4, 2022 1:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Return TNC From KISS Mode ??? Any more thoughts on getting out of KISS mode? Michael WA7SKG Michael WA7SKG wrote on 2/3/22 4:47 PM: TNC MFJ-1274 with updated TAPR firmware 1.1.8 Computer is a Dell with actual motherboard serial port (not USB adapter) Linux Mint OS I believe this used to work, but I haven't fooled with it for a couple years. Now, I need to switch between APRS and WinLink. I've been struggling with pat, so I have an A/B switch to toggle between the Linux computer running YAAC and the Windows computer running WinLink Express. I can't get WinLink to work with the KISS mode for some reason. I'm dealing with that separately. I'm hoping that if I can get the TNC to switch back out of KISS mode, then maybe WinLink will work. In all likelihood, I'll just end up putting in another radio and use direwolf or something for Winlink. Michael WA7SKG Andrew P. wrote on 2/3/22 4:33 PM: Hmmm.... What make and model of TNC are you using? And what make/model of serial port to connect it to your computer? Also, what operating system and version thereof are you using? Windows 11? Ubuntu Linux? etc... ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2022 7:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Return TNC From KISS Mode Okay, if I am looking at the right things... Port Type Serial_TNC Command string: KISS ON\r\wRESTART\r I was closing YAAC with the X at the upper right corner. I tried with File > Exit Program but it appears the TNC remains in KISS mode. I double checked there were no extra YAAC windows open anywhere. I just upgraded from 164 to 170 to be sure I didn't miss anything, no change. Next idea? Thanks for your time, Michael Andrew P. wrote on 2/3/22 3:37 PM: If you shut down YAAC properly, and have the Serial_TNC port configured with a non-blank (not the KISS-only TNC mode) command string to switch the TNC to KISS mode, YAAC should send the KISS command to exit KISS mode. If you did not let YAAC automatically put the TNC into KISS mode, then it won't take it out. Note that killing YAAC with the Linux "kill" command or with Windows Task Manager does not give YAAC a chance to send the "exit KISS" command to the TNC. Also, YAAC has to be completely down (no iconified windows still lurking on the desktop). ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2022 6:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [yaac-users] Return TNC From KISS Mode When I launch YAAC, it puts my TNC into KISS mode. If I want to do something else with my TNC after closing YAAC, how do I get it out of KISS mode? I'm trying to run WinLink and it does not seem to work with my TNC in KISS mode. I seem to remember a discussion about this a long time ago, but don't remember how it works. I really don't want to have to open the TNC and pull the battery to get it out of KISS mode. Thanks for any ideas. -- 73, Michael WA7SKG "Any day you do not learn one new thing is a wasted day."
Andrew P. All Messages By This Member #1370 Ah, what does this traffic you see in the PUTTY session to the TNC look like? Complete readable TNC2-format frames, or garbled text (i.e., actual KISS-encapsulated AX.25 frames)? ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> Sent: Friday, February 4, 2022 8:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Return TNC From KISS Mode ??? Well, most of that went over my head, sorry. Is the TCPIP/JNOS program an app that I can run? I've never seen a JNOW prompt. Do I see that in the TCPIP/JNOS program? The way equipment is configured, it is not at all easy to get into the TNC to do anything with jumpers. An added switch may ultimately be necessary, though. Of course if I could get WinLink Express to work with the TNC in KISS mode, then it wouldn't be an issue. What I am actually doing here is, I have YAAC 24/7 running on a Linux Mint computer. Occasionally, I have to use Winlink, so I have an A/B switch box to switch the serial connection from the Linux computer to the Windows computer to run WinLink Express. So, I close YAAC, flip the switch, change frequency, launch WinLink Express, and do the Winlink thing. When done, I close Winlink, flip the switch, back to the APRS frequency, launch YAAC, and everything is back to normal. At least, that is the plan. Not a lot of luck so far. I can connect to the TNC with PuTTY and see traffic, but Winlink does not seem to connect. I am assuming it is because the TNC is still in KISS mode. The struggle continues. Michael WA7SKG Brian Webster via groups.io wrote on 2/4/22 2:47 PM: In the mfj manual for a 1270/1274 manual it mentions that you can issue the command "parm ax0 255" from TCPIP/JNOS program to exit kiss mode from the JNOW prompt. I seem to recall another keyboard sequence to exit kiss back in the day but that may be for another brand. The manual also says you can remove jumper 5 for a bit then reinstall it. You might want to install an external switch for that jump point. If you have the proper type of kiss port set up (in this case serial_TNC) you would use the "TNC2 kiss" type and not kiss only! That should tell the TNC to exit kiss mode when closing the program. Brian N2KGC -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael WA7SKG Sent: Friday, February 4, 2022 1:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Return TNC From KISS Mode ??? Any more thoughts on getting out of KISS mode? Michael WA7SKG Michael WA7SKG wrote on 2/3/22 4:47 PM: TNC MFJ-1274 with updated TAPR firmware 1.1.8 Computer is a Dell with actual motherboard serial port (not USB adapter) Linux Mint OS I believe this used to work, but I haven't fooled with it for a couple years. Now, I need to switch between APRS and WinLink. I've been struggling with pat, so I have an A/B switch to toggle between the Linux computer running YAAC and the Windows computer running WinLink Express. I can't get WinLink to work with the KISS mode for some reason. I'm dealing with that separately. I'm hoping that if I can get the TNC to switch back out of KISS mode, then maybe WinLink will work. In all likelihood, I'll just end up putting in another radio and use direwolf or something for Winlink. Michael WA7SKG Andrew P. wrote on 2/3/22 4:33 PM: Hmmm.... What make and model of TNC are you using? And what make/model of serial port to connect it to your computer? Also, what operating system and version thereof are you using? Windows 11? Ubuntu Linux? etc... ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2022 7:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Return TNC From KISS Mode Okay, if I am looking at the right things... Port Type Serial_TNC Command string: KISS ON\r\wRESTART\r I was closing YAAC with the X at the upper right corner. I tried with File > Exit Program but it appears the TNC remains in KISS mode. I double checked there were no extra YAAC windows open anywhere. I just upgraded from 164 to 170 to be sure I didn't miss anything, no change. Next idea? Thanks for your time, Michael Andrew P. wrote on 2/3/22 3:37 PM: If you shut down YAAC properly, and have the Serial_TNC port configured with a non-blank (not the KISS-only TNC mode) command string to switch the TNC to KISS mode, YAAC should send the KISS command to exit KISS mode. If you did not let YAAC automatically put the TNC into KISS mode, then it won't take it out. Note that killing YAAC with the Linux "kill" command or with Windows Task Manager does not give YAAC a chance to send the "exit KISS" command to the TNC. Also, YAAC has to be completely down (no iconified windows still lurking on the desktop). ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2022 6:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [yaac-users] Return TNC From KISS Mode When I launch YAAC, it puts my TNC into KISS mode. If I want to do something else with my TNC after closing YAAC, how do I get it out of KISS mode? I'm trying to run WinLink and it does not seem to work with my TNC in KISS mode. I seem to remember a discussion about this a long time ago, but don't remember how it works. I really don't want to have to open the TNC and pull the battery to get it out of KISS mode. Thanks for any ideas. -- 73, Michael WA7SKG "Any day you do not learn one new thing is a wasted day."
Michael WA7SKG All Messages By This Member #1372 Far from readable. All garbled special characters, with readable bits and pieces, like callsigns, locations, names, etc. That's why I assumed it was still in KISS mode. Remember, I'm from the old days, when we just had a TNC and a dumb terminal. I'm fairly familiar with what "normal" packet traffic through a TNC looks like, despite my age and memory issues. I had hoped there was some way I could drop out of KISS from the PuTTY session. If there is, I haven't found it yet. To add to the confusion, I have a scanner feeding a sound card usually used for ISS SSTV, weather stuff, etc. I loaded up direwolf on that to monitor traffic and see if any of my stuff is going out. Mostly using axlisten (until I broke that, too). Traffic looked "normal" on that, while all garbled up from the TNC. Michael WA7SKG Andrew P. wrote on 2/4/22 5:59 PM: toggle quoted message Show quoted text Ah, what does this traffic you see in the PUTTY session to the TNC look like? Complete readable TNC2-format frames, or garbled text (i.e., actual KISS-encapsulated AX.25 frames)? ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> Sent: Friday, February 4, 2022 8:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Return TNC From KISS Mode ??? Well, most of that went over my head, sorry. Is the TCPIP/JNOS program an app that I can run? I've never seen a JNOW prompt. Do I see that in the TCPIP/JNOS program? The way equipment is configured, it is not at all easy to get into the TNC to do anything with jumpers. An added switch may ultimately be necessary, though. Of course if I could get WinLink Express to work with the TNC in KISS mode, then it wouldn't be an issue. What I am actually doing here is, I have YAAC 24/7 running on a Linux Mint computer. Occasionally, I have to use Winlink, so I have an A/B switch box to switch the serial connection from the Linux computer to the Windows computer to run WinLink Express. So, I close YAAC, flip the switch, change frequency, launch WinLink Express, and do the Winlink thing. When done, I close Winlink, flip the switch, back to the APRS frequency, launch YAAC, and everything is back to normal. At least, that is the plan. Not a lot of luck so far. I can connect to the TNC with PuTTY and see traffic, but Winlink does not seem to connect. I am assuming it is because the TNC is still in KISS mode. The struggle continues. Michael WA7SKG Brian Webster via groups.io wrote on 2/4/22 2:47 PM: In the mfj manual for a 1270/1274 manual it mentions that you can issue the command "parm ax0 255" from TCPIP/JNOS program to exit kiss mode from the JNOW prompt. I seem to recall another keyboard sequence to exit kiss back in the day but that may be for another brand. The manual also says you can remove jumper 5 for a bit then reinstall it. You might want to install an external switch for that jump point. If you have the proper type of kiss port set up (in this case serial_TNC) you would use the "TNC2 kiss" type and not kiss only! That should tell the TNC to exit kiss mode when closing the program. Brian N2KGC -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael WA7SKG Sent: Friday, February 4, 2022 1:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Return TNC From KISS Mode ??? Any more thoughts on getting out of KISS mode? Michael WA7SKG Michael WA7SKG wrote on 2/3/22 4:47 PM: TNC MFJ-1274 with updated TAPR firmware 1.1.8 Computer is a Dell with actual motherboard serial port (not USB adapter) Linux Mint OS I believe this used to work, but I haven't fooled with it for a couple years. Now, I need to switch between APRS and WinLink. I've been struggling with pat, so I have an A/B switch to toggle between the Linux computer running YAAC and the Windows computer running WinLink Express. I can't get WinLink to work with the KISS mode for some reason. I'm dealing with that separately. I'm hoping that if I can get the TNC to switch back out of KISS mode, then maybe WinLink will work. In all likelihood, I'll just end up putting in another radio and use direwolf or something for Winlink. Michael WA7SKG Andrew P. wrote on 2/3/22 4:33 PM: Hmmm.... What make and model of TNC are you using? And what make/model of serial port to connect it to your computer? Also, what operating system and version thereof are you using? Windows 11? Ubuntu Linux? etc... ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2022 7:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Return TNC From KISS Mode Okay, if I am looking at the right things... Port Type Serial_TNC Command string: KISS ON\r\wRESTART\r I was closing YAAC with the X at the upper right corner. I tried with File > Exit Program but it appears the TNC remains in KISS mode. I double checked there were no extra YAAC windows open anywhere. I just upgraded from 164 to 170 to be sure I didn't miss anything, no change. Next idea? Thanks for your time, Michael Andrew P. wrote on 2/3/22 3:37 PM: If you shut down YAAC properly, and have the Serial_TNC port configured with a non-blank (not the KISS-only TNC mode) command string to switch the TNC to KISS mode, YAAC should send the KISS command to exit KISS mode. If you did not let YAAC automatically put the TNC into KISS mode, then it won't take it out. Note that killing YAAC with the Linux "kill" command or with Windows Task Manager does not give YAAC a chance to send the "exit KISS" command to the TNC. Also, YAAC has to be completely down (no iconified windows still lurking on the desktop). ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2022 6:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [yaac-users] Return TNC From KISS Mode When I launch YAAC, it puts my TNC into KISS mode. If I want to do something else with my TNC after closing YAAC, how do I get it out of KISS mode? I'm trying to run WinLink and it does not seem to work with my TNC in KISS mode. I seem to remember a discussion about this a long time ago, but don't remember how it works. I really don't want to have to open the TNC and pull the battery to get it out of KISS mode. Thanks for any ideas. -- 73, Michael WA7SKG "Any day you do not learn one new thing is a wasted day."

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