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Water issues, again.


 

I just upgraded to YAAC 1.0-beta158 and I'm seeing water issues again. Attached is a picture of Eastern North Carolina showing the Albemarle and Pamlico Sounds as vast areas of white. I removed all the downloaded tiles and redownloaded them using the "Pre-Imported Tiles".

73,
Eric WG3K


 

I don't know if what you're referring to is the same as what I've
noticed, but YAAC is failing to show the lakes near my QTH (Anoka
County, Minnesota). Some lakes do appear, but the Rice Creek Chain of
Lakes nearby are all blank spots for me.

Are you saying that by removing all tiles and re-downloading you solved
the problem, or that's when you noticed the problem?

73, KD0KZE / Paul

On 10/30/2020 2:18 PM, Eric H. Christensen via groups.io wrote:
I just upgraded to YAAC 1.0-beta158 and I'm seeing water issues again. Attached is a picture of Eastern North Carolina showing the Albemarle and Pamlico Sounds as vast areas of white. I removed all the downloaded tiles and redownloaded them using the "Pre-Imported Tiles".

73,
Eric WG3K






 

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Which version of the map data are you using? I ask because I generally try to fix issues with map import on every import (since it takes so long to do a full-planet import), so identifying the map version you have will allow me to see what fixes you have (versus what I still need to fix).

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC


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From: Paul Bramscher <pfbram@...>
Date: 10/31/20 02:36 (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Water issues, again.

I don't know if what you're referring to is the same as what I've
noticed, but YAAC is failing to show the lakes near my QTH (Anoka
County, Minnesota).? Some lakes do appear, but the Rice Creek Chain of
Lakes nearby are all blank spots for me.

Are you saying that by removing all tiles and re-downloading you solved
the problem, or that's when you noticed the problem?

73, KD0KZE / Paul

On 10/30/2020 2:18 PM, Eric H. Christensen via groups.io wrote:
> I just upgraded to YAAC 1.0-beta158 and I'm seeing water issues again.? Attached is a picture of Eastern North Carolina showing the Albemarle and Pamlico Sounds as vast areas of white.? I removed all the downloaded tiles and redownloaded them using the "Pre-Imported Tiles".
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> Eric WG3K
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On Saturday, October 31st, 2020 at 10:21 AM, Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:

Which version of the map data are you using? I ask because I generally try to fix issues with map import on every import (since it takes so long to do a full-planet import), so identifying the map version you have will allow me to see what fixes you have (versus what I still need to fix).
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Which version of the map data are you using? I ask because I generally try to fix issues with map import on every import (since it takes so long to do a full-planet import), so identifying the map version you have will allow me to see what fixes you have (versus what I still need to fix).

<div><br></div><div>Andrew, KA2DDO</div><div>author of YAAC</div><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Paul Bramscher &lt;pfbram@...&gt; <br>Date: 10/31/20 02:36 (GMT-05:00) <br>To: [email protected] <br>Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Water issues, again. <br><br>I don't know if what you're referring to is the same as what I've<br>noticed, but YAAC is failing to show the lakes near my QTH (Anoka<br>County, Minnesota).&nbsp; Some lakes do appear, but the Rice Creek Chain of<br>Lakes nearby are all blank spots for me.<br><br>Are you saying that by removing all tiles and re-downloading you solved<br>the problem, or that's when you noticed the problem?<br><br>73, KD0KZE / Paul<br><br>On 10/30/2020 2:18 PM, Eric H. Christensen via groups.io wrote:<br>&gt; I just upgraded to YAAC 1.0-beta158 and I'm seeing water issues again.&nbsp; Attached is a picture of Eastern North Carolina showing the Albemarle and Pamlico Sounds as vast areas of white.&nbsp; I removed all the downloaded tiles and redownloaded them using the "Pre-Imported Tiles".<br>&gt; <br>&gt; 73,<br>&gt; Eric WG3K<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br><br><br><br><br><br><br>

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OK, I found out what was wrong with Pamlico Sound and related areas in North Carolina.

Whoever entered those areas into OpenStreetMap listed them as natural=water, but didn't provide a water tag to indicate what type of water body it was (a pond, a reservoir, a lake, a bay, etc.). So the YAAC importer threw relation#11190230 (Pamlico Sound) away because it didn't have a type telling YAAC how to render it.

I have a fix for the importer in the next build of YAAC that will recognize items marked as natural=water, and, if it doesn't have a water=something tag to specify the type of water body, tag it as an unknown type of waterway. This corrects the problem with Pamlico Sound, and also with the rivers feeding into the Sound.

It will take me a couple days to rerun the OpenStreetMap planet-wide data set with the updated code and release the new build of YAAC.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC


 

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On Wednesday, November 11th, 2020 at 12:28 PM, Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:

OK, I found out what was wrong with Pamlico Sound and related areas in North Carolina.

Whoever entered those areas into OpenStreetMap listed them as natural=water, but didn't provide a water tag to indicate what type of water body it was (a pond, a reservoir, a lake, a bay, etc.). So the YAAC importer threw relation#11190230 (Pamlico Sound) away because it didn't have a type telling YAAC how to render it.
Yep, that was me. OSM doesn't have a tag for "Sound" so it was questionable as to which tag to use for the Albemarle and Pamlico Sounds. But they were both water so...

I have a fix for the importer in the next build of YAAC that will recognize items marked as natural=water, and, if it doesn't have a water=something tag to specify the type of water body, tag it as an unknown type of waterway. This corrects the problem with Pamlico Sound, and also with the rivers feeding into the Sound.
I'm still working on waterways in this area. Are some of the rivers not tagged appropriately?

73,
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OK, I found out what was wrong with Pamlico Sound and related areas in North Carolina.<br><br>Whoever entered those areas into OpenStreetMap listed them as natural=water, but didn't provide a water tag to indicate what type of water body it was (a pond, a reservoir, a lake, a bay, etc.). So the YAAC importer threw relation#11190230 (Pamlico Sound) away because it didn't have a type telling YAAC how to render it.<br><br>I have a fix for the importer in the next build of YAAC that will recognize items marked as natural=water, and, if it doesn't have a water=something tag to specify the type of water body, tag it as an unknown type of waterway. This corrects the problem with Pamlico Sound, and also with the rivers feeding into the Sound.<br><br>It will take me a couple days to rerun the OpenStreetMap planet-wide data set with the updated code and release the new build of YAAC.<br><br>Andrew, KA2DDO<br>author of YAAC


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See below...

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Eric H. Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Water issues, again.

On Wednesday, November 11th, 2020 at 12:28 PM, Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:
OK, I found out what was wrong with Pamlico Sound and related areas in North Carolina.

Whoever entered those areas into OpenStreetMap listed them as natural=water, but didn't
provide a water tag to indicate what type of water body it was (a pond, a reservoir, a lake,
a bay, etc.). So the YAAC importer threw relation#11190230 (Pamlico Sound) away because
it didn't have a type telling YAAC how to render it.
Yep, that was me. OSM doesn't have a tag for "Sound" so it was questionable as to which
tag to use for the Albemarle and Pamlico Sounds. But they were both water so...
That's about as good as you can get, given the present approved tag values. The "natural" tag does have a supported value of "bay", but they claim that doesn't always mean water. ?!?!?!

I have a fix for the importer in the next build of YAAC that will recognize items marked
as natural=water, and, if it doesn't have a water=something tag to specify the type of
water body, tag it as an unknown type of waterway. This corrects the problem with
Pamlico Sound, and also with the rivers feeding into the Sound.
I'm still working on waterways in this area. Are some of the rivers not tagged appropriately?
The tagging looks as good as for other rivers I've seen (such as the Delaware River near my QTH).

Should be good once I grind through the next import. Just finished downloading planet-201102.osm.pbf from planet.openstreetmap.org, so I can start importing with the fixed code that I already tested on a subset for North Carolina.

73,
Eric
Andrew, KA2DDO


 

I believe I have fixed your water issues with Pamlico Sound and the like. Try updating your maps from my server and see what you see now.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC