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Feature request


 

Hello Andrew,
When I click on my weather station icon my weather data is nicely displayed in a window.
How about the same format for weather stations other than my own and to allow each of these to remain open when I select another station to see its information.
Regards,
Mike VK7TM


 

Hello, Mike.

I'm not sure I quite follow you. Are you referring to the View->Weather Status dialog for your local station? Or the popup window on the map when you click on a station? The latter shows only the weather data fields that particular station has, so it might look different on different stations (ex.: stations with versus without barometric pressure sensors).

Another alternative present in YAAC now is the monitored stations list. If you monitor a station, it goes on a special list with several table views in the View->Health Monitor window. If you are monitoring the weather health of several weather stations, they will be displayed in a consistent tabular view, including indicating what sensors of a station are not consistent with the US NWS MADIS quality checks relative to the other stations.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of vk7tm.mike@... <vk7tm.mike@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2024 10:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Feature request

Hello Andrew,
When I click on my weather station icon my weather data is nicely displayed in a window.
How about the same format for weather stations other than my own and to allow each of these to remain open when I select another station to see its information.
Regards,
Mike VK7TM


 

I now have my Weather station and another listed in the Health Monitor and monitoring them in Weather Station Status. VK7DSH-1 is not being displayed correctly, course and speed are the only fields populated. My own VK7TM-1 is populating the fields correctly. As VK7DSH-1 is not displaying correctly when monitored I suspect YAAC is not happy with its weather packet, he has a message tacked on the end which may be causing the problem. I'll pay him a visit and see if it can be removed to check if it is the culprit.
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Yes I'm referring to the pop up window when I click on a station. The weather information disappears when I click on another weather station. I'd prefer to have weather station pop up windows stay active so I can monitor several at once. Though I have been playing and pretty much what I require can be achieved with View Station on "Radio".
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Just one other small issue is the color scheme in Health Monitor, most of the fields have a light green background and with the Tan? colored text it is extremely difficult to read.
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Thanks for your efforts.
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Mike, VK7TM


 

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I don't know anything about how YAAC displays weather stations, but I was curious what you mean by VK7DSH-1 having a "message tacked on the end"??? I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary in aprs.fi's raw packet display??

2024-09-27 07:03:02 EDT:?>APU25N,,WIDE3-2,qAR,:@271103z/c7NIs@rE_2!bg000t047r000p000P000h79b10251 ???type: location ???format: compressed ???srccallsign: VK7DSH-1 ???dstcallsign: APU25N ???latitude: -41.054333387587 ° ???longitude: 145.82149813875 ° ???course: 68 ° ???speed: 0 km/h ???symboltable: / ???symbolcode: _ ???messaging: 1 ???posresolution: 0.291 m ???comment: ???timestamp: 1727434980 - 2024-09-27 07:03:00 EDT ???wx: ??????humidity: 79 % ??????pressure: 1025.1 mbar ??????temp: 8.3 °C ??????wind_gust: 0.0 m/s ??????rain_1h: 0.0 mm ??????rain_midnight: 0.0 mm ??????rain_24h: 0.0 mm
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32




On 9/27/2024 2:01 AM, vk7tm.mike@... wrote:
I now have my Weather station and another listed in the Health Monitor and monitoring them in Weather Station Status. VK7DSH-1 is not being displayed correctly, course and speed are the only fields populated. My own VK7TM-1 is populating the fields correctly. As VK7DSH-1 is not displaying correctly when monitored I suspect YAAC is not happy with its weather packet, he has a message tacked on the end which may be causing the problem. I'll pay him a visit and see if it can be removed to check if it is the culprit.
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Yes I'm referring to the pop up window when I click on a station. The weather information disappears when I click on another weather station. I'd prefer to have weather station pop up windows stay active so I can monitor several at once. Though I have been playing and pretty much what I require can be achieved with View Station on "Radio".
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Just one other small issue is the color scheme in Health Monitor, most of the fields have a light green background and with the Tan? colored text it is extremely difficult to read.
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Thanks for your efforts.
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Mike, VK7TM



 

Ah, that's interesting. YAAC is not decoding the weather data from VK7DSH-1 because it expects the uncompressed course (wind direction) and speed to begin the weather data, but that station is using compressed position format which includes the course and speed. I will have to fix the recognition of weather data when using compressed position format.

Thank you for finding that bug.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...>
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2024 7:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Feature request

I don't know anything about how YAAC displays weather stations, but I was curious what you mean by VK7DSH-1 having a "message tacked on the end"? I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary in aprs.fi's raw packet display?


2024-09-27 07:03:02 EDT: VK7DSH-1<>>APU25N,VK7RMD*<>,WIDE3-2,qAR,VK7DIK<>:@271103z/c7NIs@rE_2!bg000t047r000p000P000h79b10251
type: location
format: compressed
srccallsign: VK7DSH-1
dstcallsign: APU25N
latitude: -41.054333387587 °
longitude: 145.82149813875 °
course: 68 °
speed: 0 km/h
symboltable: /
symbolcode: _
messaging: 1
posresolution: 0.291 m
comment:
timestamp: 1727434980 - 2024-09-27 07:03:00 EDT
wx:
humidity: 79 %
pressure: 1025.1 mbar
temp: 8.3 °C
wind_gust: 0.0 m/s
rain_1h: 0.0 mm
rain_midnight: 0.0 mm
rain_24h: 0.0 mm



Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32




On 9/27/2024 2:01 AM, vk7tm.mike@...<mailto:vk7tm.mike@...> wrote:
I now have my Weather station and another listed in the Health Monitor and monitoring them in Weather Station Status. VK7DSH-1 is not being displayed correctly, course and speed are the only fields populated. My own VK7TM-1 is populating the fields correctly. As VK7DSH-1 is not displaying correctly when monitored I suspect YAAC is not happy with its weather packet, he has a message tacked on the end which may be causing the problem. I'll pay him a visit and see if it can be removed to check if it is the culprit.

Yes I'm referring to the pop up window when I click on a station. The weather information disappears when I click on another weather station. I'd prefer to have weather station pop up windows stay active so I can monitor several at once. Though I have been playing and pretty much what I require can be achieved with View Station on "Radio".

Just one other small issue is the color scheme in Health Monitor, most of the fields have a light green background and with the Tan? colored text it is extremely difficult to read.

Thanks for your efforts.

Mike, VK7TM


 

Also, regarding the green boxes and "tan" text. That actually is probably red text indicating that field looks unreasonable compared either to other nearby weather stations, or against absolute standards defined by the US National Weather Service; for example, there is a broken weather station in my area reporting a barometric pressure of 699.2 HPa when all the surrounding stations are around 1010 HPa, so its pressure value is displayed in red. Sure, air pressure at the top of Mount Everest is only around 330 HPa, but there aren't any mountains nearly that tall in the United States, so the US National Weather Service has a minimum barometric pressure check that is reasonable for anywhere in the US. Do you have mountains in the same elevation class as the Himalayas anywhere in Australia? As in, do I need to adjust the absolute bounds checks for pressure?

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Andrew P. <andrewemt@...>
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2024 7:42 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Feature request

Ah, that's interesting. YAAC is not decoding the weather data from VK7DSH-1 because it expects the uncompressed course (wind direction) and speed to begin the weather data, but that station is using compressed position format which includes the course and speed. I will have to fix the recognition of weather data when using compressed position format.

Thank you for finding that bug.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...>
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2024 7:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Feature request

I don't know anything about how YAAC displays weather stations, but I was curious what you mean by VK7DSH-1 having a "message tacked on the end"? I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary in aprs.fi's raw packet display?


2024-09-27 07:03:02 EDT: VK7DSH-1<>>APU25N,VK7RMD*<>,WIDE3-2,qAR,VK7DIK<>:@271103z/c7NIs@rE_2!bg000t047r000p000P000h79b10251
type: location
format: compressed
srccallsign: VK7DSH-1
dstcallsign: APU25N
latitude: -41.054333387587 °
longitude: 145.82149813875 °
course: 68 °
speed: 0 km/h
symboltable: /
symbolcode: _
messaging: 1
posresolution: 0.291 m
comment:
timestamp: 1727434980 - 2024-09-27 07:03:00 EDT
wx:
humidity: 79 %
pressure: 1025.1 mbar
temp: 8.3 °C
wind_gust: 0.0 m/s
rain_1h: 0.0 mm
rain_midnight: 0.0 mm
rain_24h: 0.0 mm



Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32




On 9/27/2024 2:01 AM, vk7tm.mike@...<mailto:vk7tm.mike@...> wrote:
I now have my Weather station and another listed in the Health Monitor and monitoring them in Weather Station Status. VK7DSH-1 is not being displayed correctly, course and speed are the only fields populated. My own VK7TM-1 is populating the fields correctly. As VK7DSH-1 is not displaying correctly when monitored I suspect YAAC is not happy with its weather packet, he has a message tacked on the end which may be causing the problem. I'll pay him a visit and see if it can be removed to check if it is the culprit.

Yes I'm referring to the pop up window when I click on a station. The weather information disappears when I click on another weather station. I'd prefer to have weather station pop up windows stay active so I can monitor several at once. Though I have been playing and pretty much what I require can be achieved with View Station on "Radio".

Just one other small issue is the color scheme in Health Monitor, most of the fields have a light green background and with the Tan? colored text it is extremely difficult to read.

Thanks for your efforts.

Mike, VK7TM


 

2024-09-27 14:50:52 AEST: >APU25N,,WIDE3-2,qAR,:@270502z/c7NIs@.../?Somerset?Weather?{UIV32N}
2024-09-27 14:55:52 AEST: >APU25N,,WIDE3-2,qAR,:@270507z/c7NIs@rE_?.bg007t072r000p000P000h34b10235/?Somerset?Weather?{UIV32N}
2024-09-27 15:00:52 AEST: >APU25N,,WIDE3-2,qAR,:@270512z/c7NIs@.../?Somerset?Weather?{UIV32N}
2024-09-27 15:05:52 AEST: >APU25N,,WIDE3-2,qAR,:@270517z/c7NIs@rE_M4bg007t071r000p000P000h33b10234/?Somerset?Weather?{UIV32N}
2024-09-27 15:15:52 AEST: >APU25N,,WIDE3-2,qAR,:@270527z/c7NIs@rE_O4bg008t070r000p000P000h35b10235/?Somerset?Weather?{UIV32N}
2024-09-27 15:20:52 AEST: >APU25N,,WIDE3-2,qAR,:@270532z/c7NIs@rE_M7bg008t070r000p000P000h37b10235/?Somerset?Weather?{UIV32N}
2024-09-27 15:25:52 AEST: >APU25N,,WIDE3-2,qAR,:@270537z/c7NIs@rE_K4bg006t070r000p000P000h35b10235/?Somerset?Weather?{UIV32N}
2024-09-27 15:30:53 AEST: >APU25N,,WIDE3-2,qAR,:@270542z/c7NIs@rE_M2bg006t071r000p000P000h37b10234/?Somerset?Weather?{UIV32N}
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From aprs.fi.
I had to go back a page or two. It looks like I'd already been to see VK7DSH and adjusted his beacons before you did your check.


 

Mount Kosciuszko is the tallest mountain peak in mainland Australia at 2,228 meters (7,310 feet) tall. It is located in the state of New South Wales, in the southeastern part of the country.
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Mount Ossa has an elevation of 5,305 ft and is the highest mountain in Tasmania.


 

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On 9/27/2024 11:16 AM, vk7tm.mike@... wrote:
2024-09-27 14:50:52 AEST: >APU25N,,WIDE3-2,qAR,:@270502z/c7NIs@.../?Somerset?Weather?{UIV32N}
From aprs.fi.
I had to go back a page or two. It looks like I'd already been to see VK7DSH and adjusted his beacons before you did your check.

Given Andrew's notice of the compressed coordinates issue with YAAC, the comment may or may not be allowed.?? You might want to try re-enabling it after a YAAC release that provides for weather parsing with compressed locations.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



 

Looks like you're good then re: absolute barometric pressure bounds. The US MADIS lower limit is 568 HPa, and the reported average at the top of Mount Kosciuszko is around 880HPa.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of vk7tm.mike@... <vk7tm.mike@...>
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2024 11:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Feature request

Mount Kosciuszko is the tallest mountain peak in mainland Australia at 2,228 meters (7,310 feet) tall. It is located in the state of New South Wales, in the southeastern part of the country.

Mount Ossa has an elevation of 5,305 ft and is the highest mountain in Tasmania.


 

OK, I have a fix that works with compressed position reports. It will be in the next build of YAAC.
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Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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On 9/27/2024 11:16 AM, vk7tm.mike@... wrote:
2024-09-27 14:50:52 AEST: >APU25N,,WIDE3-2,qAR,:@270502z/c7NIs@.../?Somerset?Weather?{UIV32N}
From aprs.fi.
I had to go back a page or two. It looks like I'd already been to see VK7DSH and adjusted his beacons before you did your check.

Given Andrew's notice of the compressed coordinates issue with YAAC, the comment may or may not be allowed.?? You might want to try re-enabling it after a YAAC release that provides for weather parsing with compressed locations.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32