Re: Synthesiser audio (musician's) feedback as important as technological brilliance? (theory)
I believe a small bit of (gentle) correction is in order here. I have a number of completed MOTM modules, as well as a much larger pile of still unbuilt kits. Yes, Paul discontinued the kits. However,
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Seth Elgart <seth@...>
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Re: Synthesiser audio (musician's) feedback as important as technological brilliance? (theory)
I agree with you in all points, Karl Karl schrieb:
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PeWe
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Re: Synthesiser audio (musician's) feedback as important as technological brilliance? (theory)
Hi Karl ! Im a keyboardist/arranger, sometimes composer, only, as a pro since I finished studying graphics designs in the 70th and I worked as a musical director several times in the past. But I was
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PeWe
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Re: Synthesiser audio (musician's) feedback as important as technological brilliance? (theory)
Hi PeWe, Some random Thoughts: I can't count how many times I considered duplicating the M12 with a modular and came to the conclusion it just wasn't worth it. Yes, but I bet they lose interest.
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Karl Schmeer
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Re: Synthesiser audio (musician's) feedback as important as technological brilliance? (theory)
Hi PeWe, OK, I should have said entirely analog signal chain. BTW my schematics show the Chroma, as not using any CEM envelope generators but rather generating these functions in software. (being a
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Karl Schmeer
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Re: Synthesiser audio (musician's) feedback as important as technological brilliance? (theory)
Hmmm,- the Matrix12 and the Xpander arent entirely analog polyphonic synths. Entirely analog polyphonic synths were the SEM based Obies, OBX and OBXa, the Prophets, the Jupiter-8, Memorymoog,
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PeWe
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Re: Synthesiser audio (musician's) feedback as important as technological brilliance? (theory)
Hi All, Since we are on the subject, I would like to point out that it seems to be a curse for a company to build an entirely analog polyphonic synth. Oberheim was sold right after the M12/Xpander and
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Karl Schmeer
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Re: Synthesiser audio (musician's) feedback as important as technological brilliance? (theory)
Hi ! Yep,- 20K pieces is right, Thats what Ive read too. The prob is: 20K pieces per type of chip. There are a lot of CEMs in the early synths,- OBXa, OB8, Memorymoog, Prophet 5 rev 2+3, Jupiter 8 and
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PeWe
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Re: Synthesiser audio (musician's) feedback as important as technological brilliance? (theory)
attila publik wrote: If so, not only on this group, because there's lots of Curtis-based synths. Maybe MatrixSynth blog? Jeremy.
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Jeremy Smith
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Re: Synthesiser audio (musician's) feedback as important as technological brilliance? (theory)
IIRC, I read somewhere that some company wanted a minimum order of 20.000 chips to start making them again... There?s a lot of great analog synths out there getting older... Should we start a poll
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attila publik <publik@...>
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Re: Synthesiser audio (musician's) feedback as important as technological brilliance? (theory)
PeWe wrote: Just to clarify, the review I said stated that the same Curtis chips sound better in one synth (Xpander) than another made by another (poorer talented) company. Jeremy. -- Jeremy Smith BSc
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Jeremy Smith
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Re: Synthesiser audio (musician's) feedback as important as technological brilliance? (theory)
PeWe wrote: Hi, I didn't mean they were bad. But there's a review of the Xpander which says they "Screwed the t**s off crummy Curtis chips" to get the best sound. I was just going on 2nd-hand opinion,
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Jeremy Smith
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Re: Synthesiser audio (musician's) feedback as important as technological brilliance? (theory)
AFAIK, Dave Smith is using CEM filters only and these are available. In addition he has NOS chips in stock from the past. It also can be, there are the chips he needs in production for his company, -
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PeWe
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Re: Synthesiser audio (musician's) feedback as important as technological brilliance? (theory)
Hey PeWe, I think I know why Curtis chips have his rep. There is a reveiw of the M12/expander on a large retailers site. It trys hard to convince you that buying an old synth is a bad Idea, and what
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Karl Schmeer
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Re: Synthesiser audio (musician's) feedback as important as technological brilliance? (theory)
>>> Jeremy Smith schrieb: I dont know what makes you believe Curtis chips are "crummy". These are nothing else than miniaturized analog circuits and without these you would have never seen any
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PeWe
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Re: Synthesiser audio (musician's) feedback as important as technological brilliance? (theory)
Hey There Jeremy, First off, I agree that Tom's accumulated experience with synth design created an incredibly sounding synth. I have spent a great deal of time trying to figure this out myself.
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Karl Schmeer
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Re: Synthesiser audio (musician's) feedback as important as technological brilli
.. and original is original, no matter if it sounds "better or worse", which is somewhat subjective ofcourse.
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envia94 <akva@...>
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Re: Synthesiser audio (musician's) feedback as important as technological brilli
I think the answer hides in physics in that sense that the chips are not only designed for music, but they happen to produce harmonics and noise that comes naturally, i.e., non- intended from the
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envia94 <akva@...>
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Synthesiser audio (musician's) feedback as important as technological brilliance? (theory)
Hi, I was wondering why the Xpander, made from 'crummy' Curtis chips, can out-sound any of the VST soft synths I've heard. The conclusion I came to is this: The right pair of ears, but not just that -
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Jeremy Smith
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Re: Matrix 12 Service Manual
Hi, Yes, please, scan! I did just a few days ago scan the Owner's Manual. The file did not fit in the Documents directory, so I did make a link to it. See:
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envia94 <akva@...>
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