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Re: Matrix-12 / Xpander - switches replacement?

 

Three Cheers for?PeWe !!!?
Man, thanks much for figuring all this out. I know it's been a major PIA for many of us.
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Best Regards
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Karl Schmeer
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From: PeWe
To: xpantastic@...
Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 5:27:36 PM
Subject: Re: [xpantastic] Re: Matrix-12 / Xpander - switches replacement?

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For everyone here in the group:

Today, we soldered a sample of:

Marquardt Switch 6425.1101 into my Xpander.
It?s 100% pin and form factor compatible and fits perfectly !

http://www.marquardt-switches.com/tact-and-key-switches.html?&tx_productkatalog_pi1[mode]=detail&tx_productkatalog_pi1[modifier]=0&tx_productkatalog_pi1[value]=6425&tx_productkatalog_pi1[pointer]=1&cHash=15e3636755

The Oberheim switch top covers/caps don?t fit (not mounting pin
compatible),- so one has to buy switches (no LED) and related top covers
in black as well as the numbered ones for the keypad, the + and - as
well as the orange one.

I germany, you?ll get everything at Conrad
http://www.conrad.de/ce/de/?insert_kz=NA&hk=SEM&WT.srch=1&gclid=CKfIr7OEv6MCFVQq3god63UngA

and here
http://www.muetron.de/de/

In other countries please look for dealers in your region.

good news for me and eventually for y?all too

PeWe
Re: Matrix-12 / Xpander - switches replacement?

 

For everyone here in the group:

Today, we soldered a sample of:

Marquardt Switch 6425.1101 into my Xpander.
Its 100% pin and form factor compatible and fits perfectly !

[mode]=detail&tx_productkatalog_pi1[modifier]=0&tx_productkatalog_pi1[value]=6425&tx_productkatalog_pi1[pointer]=1&cHash=15e3636755

The Oberheim switch top covers/caps dont fit (not mounting pin compatible),- so one has to buy switches (no LED) and related top covers in black as well as the numbered ones for the keypad, the + and - as well as the orange one.

I germany, youll get everything at Conrad


and here


In other countries please look for dealers in your region.

good news for me and eventually for yall too

PeWe
Re: Real-Time Tone Editor for Xpander

 

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Would love to have this for my Xpander... Is anyone on here in contact with the maker and do they have any idea when there might be a release?? even a buggy non finished one I'd be happy with.
Re: Real-Time Tone Editor for Xpander

envia94
 

... I have been away for quite some time, but I only find this discussion about editors for Xpander:



Tiitu
Re: Xplorer

envia94
 

I found the demo quite good.
Re: Real-Time Tone Editor for Xpander

 

Nothing new.
News of this patch editor has been posted several times, here and other places.


On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 8:45 AM, envia94 <tares@...> wrote:
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This is exiting:


Tiitu
Re: Xplorer

 

envia94 wrote:
Hi,
Please, take a look at the link named 'Xplorer' in

It is really Xiting news and a very good web page too!
Cheers,
Tiitu.
Wow, random patches for my Xpander!

I'll pay $15 for this if only a donation.

Jeremy.
Re: Real-Time Tone Editor for Xpander

 

BTW synthwise is a scrapper.? They get most of their posts scraping my site but you'll never get the video, links and full post there.? Just look for it on MATRIXSYNTH.


On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 9:14 AM, matrix <matrixsynth@...> wrote:
Here you go:



On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 9:07 AM, envia94 <tares@...> wrote:
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Really eXiting and a Good web page!!!






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cheers,
matrix




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cheers,
matrix
Xplorer

envia94
 

Hi,

Please, take a look at the link named 'Xplorer' in



It is really Xiting news and a very good web page too!

Cheers,
Tiitu.
Re: Real-Time Tone Editor for Xpander

 

Here you go:



On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 9:07 AM, envia94 <tares@...> wrote:

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Really eXiting and a Good web page!!!






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cheers,
matrix
Real-Time Tone Editor for Xpander

envia94
 

This is exiting:


Tiitu
Re: Matrix-12 / Xpander - switches replacement?

 

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Congrats !

For me, that?s weird ?cause I contacted him too because of the switches after reading the message below and got no reply :-(

I?m not sure about the encoders but I?m intersted too.

PeWe

Am 21.07.2010 22:51, schrieb mirror_saw7778:

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Thank You!
I just received some switches from Doug. Nice and easy transaction!

Now all I need is a replacement encoder and I will have a 100% working Matrix-12!

--- In xpantastic@..., "baumont987" wrote:
>
> Hi,
> You can try to contact Doug at KICS USA (kicsusa @ aol dot com), he
> still had some switches 2 years ago, I was able to order some from him
> in... 2007.
>
> See my message about it:
>
>
> <>
Re: Matrix-12 / Xpander - switches replacement?

mirror_saw7778
 

Thank You!
I just received some switches from Doug. Nice and easy transaction!

Now all I need is a replacement encoder and I will have a 100% working Matrix-12!

--- In xpantastic@..., "baumont987" <geebeex@...> wrote:

Hi,
You can try to contact Doug at KICS USA (kicsusa @ aol dot com), he
still had some switches 2 years ago, I was able to order some from him
in... 2007.

See my message about it:


<>


--- In xpantastic@..., "mirror_saw7778" <haven1@> wrote:

Looks like I also need to buy new switches for my Matrix 12, a few of
the buttons are completely dead and attempts to clean them are not
working. The little removable rubber membranes inside are damaged
(rotted).

Does anyone know where I can buy some replacement switches? I checked
but he does not seem to have any, nor does
ebay.
Re: Xpander/Matrix-12 Rotary Encoder part#?

mirror_saw7778
 

would ALPS part # STEC16B04 work to replace the encoders? Looks like they are about $2.50 USD each from Taiwan

--- In xpantastic@..., PeWe <ha-pewe@...> wrote:

Is the ALPS Rotary in the files section an available replacement which
is guaranteed to work in a Xpander or is it the original and not available ?

PeWe


Am 13.07.2010 22:37, schrieb mirror_saw7778:

Thanks! somehow I missed that when I first looked.

--- In xpantastic@...
<mailto:xpantastic%40yahoogroups.com>, min struct <min.struct@> wrote:

have a look here :


2010/7/12 mirror_saw7778 <haven1@>

My Matrix-12 needs a replacement rotary encoder does anyone have a
part
number so I can order some?

I tried searching through the messages on this group but can't
seem to find
any part numbers, manufacturer of specifications.

thanks!
Re: Matrix-12 / Xpander - switches replacement?

 

Hi,
You can try to contact Doug at KICS USA (kicsusa @ aol? dot com), he still had some switches 2 years ago, I was able to order some from him in... 2007.

See my message about it:




--- In xpantastic@..., "mirror_saw7778" wrote:
>
> Looks like I also need to buy new switches for my Matrix 12, a few of the buttons are completely dead and attempts to clean them are not working. The little removable rubber membranes inside are damaged (rotted).
>
> Does anyone know where I can buy some replacement switches? I checked http://www.vintageplanet.nl/ but he does not seem to have any, nor does ebay.
>
Re: Matrix-12 / Xpander - switches replacement?

 

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Well,- I?m searchin? ...

Original is Marquardt Switch 6401 which seems to be a discontinued part.
I measured my original switches and what eventually comes close most or will fit is the actual Marquardt Series 6425 Keymodules w/o LED and Keycaps for Keymodules 6425, Series 826 ...
These caps are available w/ printings (for the numwerical keypad p.ex.) and w/o printings, grey colour and 16mm spacing.
Download here ...


Marquardt standard switches overview
Marquadt standard switch catalogue
(both english and german langage available)

... and look yourself

unfortunally, there are no technical drawings in the catalogue and up to now I?ve found no dealer to buy one sample to compare w/ a original.

It would be great to have a guy here in the group who?s able to do more accurate measuring w/ his Xpander/ M-12 than I did,- and to get the tech drawings it might be necessary to organize a group buy before asking the manufacturer I fear.
I doubt the company would sell a single or only a few items.

Unfortunally, my technical english isn?t that good to describe the exact measurements of the originals here but maybe someone else could do,- I hope.
There are the contact pins, their separation distance (5mm) and their horizontal position (don?t know how to describe without a tech drawing, it?s somewhat special in this case), the overall size of the switch (16x16mm),- mounting pins and their separation distance (14mm) as well as their horizontal positions (diagonally: left upper corner /right lower), the separation distance of the caps mounting pins (8mm) and horizontal position,- and height of the switch (9mm).
I used a sliding caliper but won?t guarantee the precision here,- it was not so easy w/ the built-in original switches .

It would be great someone would double check and eventually upload a tech-drawing of the original into the files section ! - But next is to get a sample and/or a tech drawing of the replacement? for a comparison.

O.T.:

I have the same prob w/ a Oberheim XK, have all the values but don?t even know the manufacturer of the original switches because it?s nowhere documented, so it?s much more tricky.



Am 14.07.2010 00:37, schrieb mirror_saw7778:

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Looks like I also need to buy new switches for my Matrix 12, a few of the buttons are completely dead and attempts to clean them are not working. The little removable rubber membranes inside are damaged (rotted).

Does anyone know where I can buy some replacement switches? I checked but he does not seem to have any, nor does ebay.
Matrix-12 / Xpander - switches replacement?

mirror_saw7778
 

Looks like I also need to buy new switches for my Matrix 12, a few of the buttons are completely dead and attempts to clean them are not working. The little removable rubber membranes inside are damaged (rotted).

Does anyone know where I can buy some replacement switches? I checked but he does not seem to have any, nor does ebay.
Turning a Matrix 1000 into an Xpander

 


This is NOT my project, I'm just forwarding the link to get some discussion going.
Re: Xpander/Matrix-12 Rotary Encoder part#?

 

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Is the ALPS Rotary in the files section an available replacement which is guaranteed to work in a Xpander or is it the original and not available ?

PeWe


Am 13.07.2010 22:37, schrieb mirror_saw7778:

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Thanks! somehow I missed that when I first looked.

--- In xpantastic@..., min struct wrote:
>
> have a look here :
>
>
> 2010/7/12 mirror_saw7778
>
> > My Matrix-12 needs a replacement rotary encoder does anyone have a part
> > number so I can order some?
> >
> > I tried searching through the messages on this group but can't seem to find
> > any part numbers, manufacturer of specifications.
> >
> > thanks!
Re: Xpander/Matrix-12 Rotary Encoder part#?

mirror_saw7778
 

Thanks! somehow I missed that when I first looked.

--- In xpantastic@..., min struct <min.struct@...> wrote:

have a look here :


2010/7/12 mirror_saw7778 <haven1@...>

My Matrix-12 needs a replacement rotary encoder does anyone have a part
number so I can order some?

I tried searching through the messages on this group but can't seem to find
any part numbers, manufacturer of specifications.

thanks!



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