Re: Auto Tune Failures Gameplan
Do all voices still fail all tests after replacing all of those components?
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r1n9o
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Re: Auto Tune Failures Gameplan
I will check your suggestions. In my case, each individual voice fails, when tested one at a time. When "All" is select, they also all fail. I did find 2 bad CEM3374's that were not outputting the
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David Reynics
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Re: Auto Tune Failures Gameplan
This is a nice compilation of possible (and popular) failure points. ?Of course, it¡¯s also important to take a ¡®do no harm¡¯ approach by logically diagnosing the problems before touching
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r1n9o
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Re: Xpander tuning issue
Hi there, Just to let you know that I replaced? cd4053 (ic 904 if I remember well) and the tune is now working... Thanks for your help there are loads of good advice to read here...
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Fred Dref
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Re: Auto Tune Failures Gameplan
What is in file section is laters version. Only this post is older version. --- /g/xpantastic/files/Documents
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David Reynics
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Re: Auto Tune Failures Gameplan
Is it possible to delete the older versions?
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TC
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Re: Auto Tune Failures Gameplan
I uploaded a newer version with all precautions in the files section. *Re: Xpander Auto-Tune failures*
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David Reynics
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Re: Auto Tune Failures Gameplan
Hi Burt Great idea to keep a cheat sheet. When you think you've got the final version done, it would be good to put it in the files section. This way, when people need to troubleshoot they can just
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TC
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Auto Tune Failures Gameplan
I have an Oberheim Xpander (v 14. ROMS), which is failing all auto-tune tests. I have read every post related to tuning back to 2008 and have developed a game plan. I am posting here, please feel free
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David Reynics
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Re: new member with tuning problems
I had a failing voice, tunepage showing "fail" already for OSCs, w/ my Xpander last year. I?m 1st owner since 1987... Can be I posted before @ (Yahoo) Xpanatastic,- but the culprit was a tiny TL0XX
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PeWe
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Re: new member with tuning problems
That's great to hear! ?(I'll wager U814 was the problem, since the failures were in specific CV categories across all voices.) Regarding the new problem, perhaps the new IC's are simply revealing a
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r1n9o
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Re: new member with tuning problems
Well, that was a lot of information. And good information, too! I've been quiet so far because I've waited for replacement parts which now have arrived. So I first swapped several of the 900 group of
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Malte Rogacki
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Re: new member with tuning problems
I've been tracking down some subtle tuning issues myself, and have been thinking along the same lines as your zero-crossing hypothesis. ?Here¡¯s few things I've learned along the way. ?I can¡¯t
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r1n9o
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Re: new member with tuning problems
Yes, I did all memory checks and also verified 4v reference and DAC Offset.
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Malte Rogacki
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Re: new member with tuning problems
Maybe too obvious, but have you tried any of the calibration tests in the service manual? ?(Relevant might be the "MEM", "VMEM", 4v reference, and DAC calibration tests.)
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r1n9o
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Re: new member with tuning problems
In recently researching IC replacements for the Xpander, I've noticed that TI's own datasheets sometimes offer seemingly conflicting info about the LS/HC/HCT series of chips. ?But, it turns out,
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r1n9o
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Re: new member with tuning problems
It couldn¡¯t hurt to swap out the 8253 as well as U915 (LS139). Seeing an analog signal going into a digital chip will give me pause to think, If you had analog muxs, VCO and VCF chip fails, maybe
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Karl Schmeer
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Re: new member with tuning problems
I had thought about U921 too; however according to the service manual it's also used for VCF calibration - and that works every time. I'd be interested to learn more about the tuning process. For
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Malte Rogacki
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Re: new member with tuning problems
Hi Off the top of my head, Maybe U921 or it¡¯s connected glue logic. This timer chip is used for both vco tuning and PW Calibration. - Karl Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020
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Karl Schmeer
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Re: new member with tuning problems
Addendum: I'm also a bit irritated by the different logic families present. Most chips are 74LS; and from the service manual I know that 74S and 74C also were used. However I've noticed a number of
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Malte Rogacki
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