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Removing the Encoder caps

 

Thinking of replacing the encoders at some point as one of them is out and another is intermittent. I have the excellent Xplorer software but functions like pan position aren't possible from it.

But I am having some concern about how to remove the caps from the current encoders. The ones on my Matrix 12 feel like they are glued on and won't budge a millimetre. How are they fastened? Should they come off easily?

Best regards


Re: Xpander: How do you remove the matte finish

 

same here, but if some other people have good luck.?

any Oberheim employees here that may know about this btw ?

Thanks for the info.

On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:59 PM, robert hall wrote:

?

well i haven't tried it "yet"-
it seems the right mental attitude/commitment is needed and also i've gotten sidetracked with many other equipment pursuits for awhile plus the main thing i want next for my xpanders are those encoder kits honestly!
also i'm kindof afraid i'd mess it up somehow but probably some day it will be attempted because it looks so damn good.
take care-

--- On Mon, 3/11/13, endofcommon@... <endofcommon@...> wrote:

From: endofcommon@... <endofcommon@...>
Subject: Re: [xpantastic] Re: Xpander: How do you remove the matte finish
To: xpantastic@...
Date: Monday, March 11, 2013, 6:50 PM

?

Robert did you try it ?

Seems very sketchy. e

On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:29 PM, robert wrote:

?

the details were sent to me individually sorry i forgot-here they are

Just replying to you regarding the cleaning of the front face on the Matrix 12 / Xpander...

Nothing overly technical involved i can assure you of that :)

All you need is a damp cloth,nothing too heavy material wise, basically if you think it will scratch the underside of the matte finish? don't use... If my memory serves me correctly i think i used a J cloth, a polishing cloth isn't that effective for taking the coating off but will help to lift any remaining smears and shine the face up nicely after the matte has been removed.,

Firstly i recommend assessing the condition of the face,is it looking dull to very dull? or / and possibly discolored in places (gray/brown)? are there small flecks of matte that have come away already?? i would expect most Xpander's or matrix 12's to be of similar age by this point in time not unless you have a Japanese version,in which case the coating could be newer (may not have degraded enough over time)or could have been applied differently..who knows?

be sure to squeeze all of the excess water from the cloth,yes tap water works just fine... and gently rub the matte face with the cloth,this will dampen the face and loosen up the coating,leave it a few minutes to let the moisture soak in,try to begin at a point on the face where the coating has already become nicked or scratched,(saves creating a new scratch point or overly applying pressure to the face to get the coating to initially lift). you will need a certain degree of elbow grease to lift the coating off though,not enough pressure or too much pressure to the face could cause additional scratching or internal damage,so its still a bit of a fine line....

All in all i think mine took about 5-6 hours to deface /reface.... its a bit of a slog but for any proud owner its well worth the effort.... i must stress though be ultra careful cleaning the face and about the amount of water on the face or cloth , i know it sounds a bit obvious but accidents can still happen.... and i am not saying that this method will work for everybody's obie 12 / xp.. but sure as you can see its worth the try.... jasus! i really hope nobody wrecks their synths in the process?? that would be tragic....! or maybe not? spare-parts for all? only joking...

anyway, best wishes for now.

Take care have a good one and all that jazz - dc

--- In xpantastic@..., endofcommon@... wrote:
>
> I do see awesomesauce, but no real detailed instructions on the
> process : )
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:06 PM, robert hall wrote:
>
> > hi-
> > this was done awhile back in this group-
> > please search the word "awesomesauce" and you will get to the posts
> > surrounding the procedure to obtain the gloss look.
> > thanks
> >
> > --- On Mon, 3/11/13, endofcommon@...
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: endofcommon@...
> > Subject: [xpantastic] Xpander: How do you remove the matte finish
> > To: xpantastic@...
> > Date: Monday, March 11, 2013, 11:27 AM
> >
> >
> > And get the gloss look on the Xpander ?
> > Any tips, info greatly appreciated. Cheers, E
> >
> >
> >
>




Re: Xpander: How do you remove the matte finish

 

well i haven't tried it "yet"-
it seems the right mental attitude/commitment is needed and also i've gotten sidetracked with many other equipment pursuits for awhile plus the main thing i want next for my xpanders are those encoder kits honestly!
also i'm kindof afraid i'd mess it up somehow but probably some day it will be attempted because it looks so damn good.
take care-


--- On Mon, 3/11/13, endofcommon@... wrote:

From: endofcommon@...
Subject: Re: [xpantastic] Re: Xpander: How do you remove the matte finish
To: xpantastic@...
Date: Monday, March 11, 2013, 6:50 PM

?

Robert did you try it ?

Seems very sketchy. e

On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:29 PM, robert wrote:

?

the details were sent to me individually sorry i forgot-here they are

Just replying to you regarding the cleaning of the front face on the Matrix 12 / Xpander...

Nothing overly technical involved i can assure you of that :)

All you need is a damp cloth,nothing too heavy material wise, basically if you think it will scratch the underside of the matte finish? don't use... If my memory serves me correctly i think i used a J cloth, a polishing cloth isn't that effective for taking the coating off but will help to lift any remaining smears and shine the face up nicely after the matte has been removed.,

Firstly i recommend assessing the condition of the face,is it looking dull to very dull? or / and possibly discolored in places (gray/brown)? are there small flecks of matte that have come away already?? i would expect most Xpander's or matrix 12's to be of similar age by this point in time not unless you have a Japanese version,in which case the coating could be newer (may not have degraded enough over time)or could have been applied differently..who knows?

be sure to squeeze all of the excess water from the cloth,yes tap water works just fine... and gently rub the matte face with the cloth,this will dampen the face and loosen up the coating,leave it a few minutes to let the moisture soak in,try to begin at a point on the face where the coating has already become nicked or scratched,(saves creating a new scratch point or overly applying pressure to the face to get the coating to initially lift). you will need a certain degree of elbow grease to lift the coating off though,not enough pressure or too much pressure to the face could cause additional scratching or internal damage,so its still a bit of a fine line....

All in all i think mine took about 5-6 hours to deface /reface.... its a bit of a slog but for any proud owner its well worth the effort.... i must stress though be ultra careful cleaning the face and about the amount of water on the face or cloth , i know it sounds a bit obvious but accidents can still happen.... and i am not saying that this method will work for everybody's obie 12 / xp.. but sure as you can see its worth the try.... jasus! i really hope nobody wrecks their synths in the process?? that would be tragic....! or maybe not? spare-parts for all? only joking...

anyway, best wishes for now.

Take care have a good one and all that jazz - dc

--- In xpantastic@..., endofcommon@... wrote:
>
> I do see awesomesauce, but no real detailed instructions on the
> process : )
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:06 PM, robert hall wrote:
>
> > hi-
> > this was done awhile back in this group-
> > please search the word "awesomesauce" and you will get to the posts
> > surrounding the procedure to obtain the gloss look.
> > thanks
> >
> > --- On Mon, 3/11/13, endofcommon@...
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: endofcommon@...
> > Subject: [xpantastic] Xpander: How do you remove the matte finish
> > To: xpantastic@...
> > Date: Monday, March 11, 2013, 11:27 AM
> >
> >
> > And get the gloss look on the Xpander ?
> > Any tips, info greatly appreciated. Cheers, E
> >
> >
> >
>



Re: Xpander: How do you remove the matte finish

 

Robert did you try it ?
Seems very sketchy. e

On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:29 PM, robert wrote:

?

the details were sent to me individually sorry i forgot-here they are

Just replying to you regarding the cleaning of the front face on the Matrix 12 / Xpander...

Nothing overly technical involved i can assure you of that :)

All you need is a damp cloth,nothing too heavy material wise, basically if you think it will scratch the underside of the matte finish? don't use... If my memory serves me correctly i think i used a J cloth, a polishing cloth isn't that effective for taking the coating off but will help to lift any remaining smears and shine the face up nicely after the matte has been removed.,

Firstly i recommend assessing the condition of the face,is it looking dull to very dull? or / and possibly discolored in places (gray/brown)? are there small flecks of matte that have come away already?? i would expect most Xpander's or matrix 12's to be of similar age by this point in time not unless you have a Japanese version,in which case the coating could be newer (may not have degraded enough over time)or could have been applied differently..who knows?

be sure to squeeze all of the excess water from the cloth,yes tap water works just fine... and gently rub the matte face with the cloth,this will dampen the face and loosen up the coating,leave it a few minutes to let the moisture soak in,try to begin at a point on the face where the coating has already become nicked or scratched,(saves creating a new scratch point or overly applying pressure to the face to get the coating to initially lift). you will need a certain degree of elbow grease to lift the coating off though,not enough pressure or too much pressure to the face could cause additional scratching or internal damage,so its still a bit of a fine line....

All in all i think mine took about 5-6 hours to deface /reface.... its a bit of a slog but for any proud owner its well worth the effort.... i must stress though be ultra careful cleaning the face and about the amount of water on the face or cloth , i know it sounds a bit obvious but accidents can still happen.... and i am not saying that this method will work for everybody's obie 12 / xp.. but sure as you can see its worth the try.... jasus! i really hope nobody wrecks their synths in the process?? that would be tragic....! or maybe not? spare-parts for all? only joking...

anyway, best wishes for now.

Take care have a good one and all that jazz - dc

--- In xpantastic@..., endofcommon@... wrote:
>
> I do see awesomesauce, but no real detailed instructions on the
> process : )
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:06 PM, robert hall wrote:
>
> > hi-
> > this was done awhile back in this group-
> > please search the word "awesomesauce" and you will get to the posts
> > surrounding the procedure to obtain the gloss look.
> > thanks
> >
> > --- On Mon, 3/11/13, endofcommon@...
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: endofcommon@...
> > Subject: [xpantastic] Xpander: How do you remove the matte finish
> > To: xpantastic@...
> > Date: Monday, March 11, 2013, 11:27 AM
> >
> >
> > And get the gloss look on the Xpander ?
> > Any tips, info greatly appreciated. Cheers, E
> >
> >
> >
>



Re: Xpander: How do you remove the matte finish

 

the details were sent to me individually sorry i forgot-here they are

Just replying to you regarding the cleaning of the front face on the Matrix 12 / Xpander...

Nothing overly technical involved i can assure you of that :)

All you need is a damp cloth,nothing too heavy material wise, basically if you think it will scratch the underside of the matte finish? don't use... If my memory serves me correctly i think i used a J cloth, a polishing cloth isn't that effective for taking the coating off but will help to lift any remaining smears and shine the face up nicely after the matte has been removed.,

Firstly i recommend assessing the condition of the face,is it looking dull to very dull? or / and possibly discolored in places (gray/brown)? are there small flecks of matte that have come away already?? i would expect most Xpander's or matrix 12's to be of similar age by this point in time not unless you have a Japanese version,in which case the coating could be newer (may not have degraded enough over time)or could have been applied differently..who knows?

be sure to squeeze all of the excess water from the cloth,yes tap water works just fine... and gently rub the matte face with the cloth,this will dampen the face and loosen up the coating,leave it a few minutes to let the moisture soak in,try to begin at a point on the face where the coating has already become nicked or scratched,(saves creating a new scratch point or overly applying pressure to the face to get the coating to initially lift). you will need a certain degree of elbow grease to lift the coating off though,not enough pressure or too much pressure to the face could cause additional scratching or internal damage,so its still a bit of a fine line....

All in all i think mine took about 5-6 hours to deface /reface.... its a bit of a slog but for any proud owner its well worth the effort.... i must stress though be ultra careful cleaning the face and about the amount of water on the face or cloth , i know it sounds a bit obvious but accidents can still happen.... and i am not saying that this method will work for everybody's obie 12 / xp.. but sure as you can see its worth the try.... jasus! i really hope nobody wrecks their synths in the process?? that would be tragic....! or maybe not? spare-parts for all? only joking...

anyway, best wishes for now.

Take care have a good one and all that jazz - dc

--- In xpantastic@..., endofcommon@... wrote:

I do see awesomesauce, but no real detailed instructions on the
process : )




On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:06 PM, robert hall wrote:

hi-
this was done awhile back in this group-
please search the word "awesomesauce" and you will get to the posts
surrounding the procedure to obtain the gloss look.
thanks

--- On Mon, 3/11/13, endofcommon@... <endofcommon@...>
wrote:

From: endofcommon@... <endofcommon@...>
Subject: [xpantastic] Xpander: How do you remove the matte finish
To: xpantastic@...
Date: Monday, March 11, 2013, 11:27 AM


And get the gloss look on the Xpander ?
Any tips, info greatly appreciated. Cheers, E



Re: Xpander: How do you remove the matte finish

 

I do see awesomesauce, but no real detailed instructions on the process : )



On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:06 PM, robert hall wrote:

?

hi-
this was done awhile back in this group-
please search the word "awesomesauce" and you will get to the posts surrounding the procedure to obtain the gloss look.
thanks

--- On Mon, 3/11/13, endofcommon@... <endofcommon@...> wrote:

From: endofcommon@... <endofcommon@...>
Subject: [xpantastic] Xpander: How do you remove the matte finish
To: xpantastic@...
Date: Monday, March 11, 2013, 11:27 AM

?

And get the gloss look on the Xpander ?
Any tips, info greatly appreciated. Cheers, E



Re: Xpander: How do you remove the matte finish

 

hi-
this was done awhile back in this group-
please search the word "awesomesauce" and you will get to the posts surrounding the procedure to obtain the gloss look.
thanks


--- On Mon, 3/11/13, endofcommon@... wrote:

From: endofcommon@...
Subject: [xpantastic] Xpander: How do you remove the matte finish
To: xpantastic@...
Date: Monday, March 11, 2013, 11:27 AM

?

And get the gloss look on the Xpander ?
Any tips, info greatly appreciated. Cheers, E


Re: Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

 

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thx, Karl,- I already posted and I was correct,- my Xpander is switched ON now so I double checked.

Its a matter of Masterpage > MIDI > Channel (selects basic MIDI channel) and the ZONE 1 Input which should be set to the same MIDI channel.
Never OMNI !

Single patch mode is ZONE 1 always.

Am 12.03.2013 00:39, schrieb Karl Schmeer:


Perhaps PeWeor another Xpander owner can help.

Karl




Re: I got it now was/Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

 

:-)))


From: "endofcommon@..."
To: xpantastic@...
Sent: Mon, March 11, 2013 6:30:59 PM
Subject: Re: [xpantastic] I got it now was/Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

?

Ok, I got it now Karl, how frustrating all these steps! ?: )


The key here is the Zone button under Master page that you mention which was set to Omni for all 3 zones.
Changing this to the desired channel worked and everything is good now. ?I was confusing the CV/Midi and Zone as one button not two.

Appreciate the help! e

On Mar 11, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Karl Schmeer wrote:

?

Hi,
Each zone (in single mode) may be set to it's own midi channel,
or to Omni mode.

Try this button sequence:

>> Master Page >> ?Zone?>> Zone Number (1 - 6)

At the far right of the zone page is the midi channel, make sure it is
not set to omni.

Best Luck

Karl

?

________________________________
From: "endofcommon@...endofcommon@...>
To: xpantastic@...
Sent: Mon, March 11, 2013 5:31:12 PM
Subject: Re: [xpantastic] Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

?
Xpander Master Midi channel is set to Ch1?(Master, Midi, Channel), Logic is
sending out on Ch. 1 ?(tested all other channels working correctly). Has it to
do with midi zones/ (master/midi/zones) perhaps ? Again this is in single mode.
?Thanks, e

On Mar 11, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Ancient Eyeball Recipe wrote:

?
>
>
>Well, my guess would be that either the xpander doesn't have its midi channel
>set to one (I think that the default may be 'omni', which would produce your
>symptoms), OR you're channelizing the output incorrectly ?through your DAW,
>which can be easy to do.
>
>
>
>In any case, I'm not in front of my matrix 12 at the moment, but logically
>that's what comes to mind.
>
>________________________________
From: endofcommon@...
>To: xpantastic@...
>Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 3:24:05 PM
>Subject: [xpantastic] Xpander Midi Recieve Channel
>
>?
>Until recently I had my my Xpander on its own midi buss, but due to
>some setup thinning out, it now needs to share a midi bus (1 Midi out
>from a Emagic MT-4) with other synths but I cannot seem to set it
>correctly in single mode to receive on just one midi channel, it wants
>to respond to all channels, could someone please go over these steps
>with me please, I must be missing something. Thank you, e
>
>OB Xpander
>Processor v1.2
>Voice v1.4
>Casette v1.0
>
>
>



Re: I got it now was/Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

 

Ok, I got it now Karl, how frustrating all these steps! ?: )

The key here is the Zone button under Master page that you mention which was set to Omni for all 3 zones.
Changing this to the desired channel worked and everything is good now. ?I was confusing the CV/Midi and Zone as one button not two.

Appreciate the help! e

On Mar 11, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Karl Schmeer wrote:

?

Hi,
Each zone (in single mode) may be set to it's own midi channel,
or to Omni mode.

Try this button sequence:

>> Master Page >> ?Zone?>> Zone Number (1 - 6)

At the far right of the zone page is the midi channel, make sure it is
not set to omni.

Best Luck

Karl

?

________________________________
From: "endofcommon@...endofcommon@...>
To: xpantastic@...
Sent: Mon, March 11, 2013 5:31:12 PM
Subject: Re: [xpantastic] Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

?
Xpander Master Midi channel is set to Ch1?(Master, Midi, Channel), Logic is
sending out on Ch. 1 ?(tested all other channels working correctly). Has it to
do with midi zones/ (master/midi/zones) perhaps ? Again this is in single mode.
?Thanks, e

On Mar 11, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Ancient Eyeball Recipe wrote:

?
>
>
>Well, my guess would be that either the xpander doesn't have its midi channel
>set to one (I think that the default may be 'omni', which would produce your
>symptoms), OR you're channelizing the output incorrectly ?through your DAW,
>which can be easy to do.
>
>
>
>In any case, I'm not in front of my matrix 12 at the moment, but logically
>that's what comes to mind.
>
>________________________________
From: endofcommon@...
>To: xpantastic@...
>Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 3:24:05 PM
>Subject: [xpantastic] Xpander Midi Recieve Channel
>
>?
>Until recently I had my my Xpander on its own midi buss, but due to
>some setup thinning out, it now needs to share a midi bus (1 Midi out
>from a Emagic MT-4) with other synths but I cannot seem to set it
>correctly in single mode to receive on just one midi channel, it wants
>to respond to all channels, could someone please go over these steps
>with me please, I must be missing something. Thank you, e
>
>OB Xpander
>Processor v1.2
>Voice v1.4
>Casette v1.0
>
>
>



Re: Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

 

Well, on the far right of the center display.?However
I must apologize as I am looking at my Matrix 12
which allows 6 zones instead of three, and does not
have external CV inputs.

Looking at the xpander midi spec though, it says you have the
option?of Omni?in each of the 3?zones so it should be in there.


From Xpander?Midi Spec:

These Zones, an Oberheim innovation, are polyphonic note assignment modules. For
each Zone, its control

source (one of the sixteen MIDI channels or OMNI) , the range of notes over
which it is active (MIDI notes

1 through 127), and the method by which it should assign notes to voices
(including Rotate, Reassign,

Reset, and three unison modes) may be specified.


Perhaps PeWe??or another Xpander owner can help.

Karl

?




________________________________
From: "endofcommon@..." <endofcommon@...>
To: xpantastic@...
Sent: Mon, March 11, 2013 6:24:08 PM
Subject: Re: [xpantastic] Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

?
re: far right do you mean on the zone encoder ?
Im not seeing Omni ? as a selection (just Zone 1-3, CV1-6, CH 1-16)

Can someone please check on this when there in front of there machine. Thanks



On Mar 11, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Karl Schmeer wrote:

?
Hi,
Each zone (in single mode) may be set to it's own midi channel,
or to Omni mode.

Try this button sequence:

Master Page >> ?Zone?>> Zone Number (1 - 6)
At the far right of the zone page is the midi channel, make sure it is
not set to omni.

Best Luck

Karl

?

________________________________
From: "endofcommon@[email protected]>
To: xpantastic@...
Sent: Mon, March 11, 2013 5:31:12 PM
Subject: Re: [xpantastic] Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

?
Xpander Master Midi channel is set to Ch1?(Master, Midi, Channel), Logic is
sending out on Ch. 1 ?(tested all other channels working correctly). Has it to
do with midi zones/ (master/midi/zones) perhaps ? Again this is in single mode.

?Thanks, e

On Mar 11, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Ancient Eyeball Recipe wrote:

?


Well, my guess would be that either the xpander doesn't have its midi channel
set to one (I think that the default may be 'omni', which would produce your
symptoms), OR you're channelizing the output incorrectly ?through your DAW,
which can be easy to do.



In any case, I'm not in front of my matrix 12 at the moment, but logically
that's what comes to mind.

________________________________
From: endofcommon@...
To: xpantastic@...
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 3:24:05 PM
Subject: [xpantastic] Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

?
Until recently I had my my Xpander on its own midi buss, but due to
some setup thinning out, it now needs to share a midi bus (1 Midi out
from a Emagic MT-4) with other synths but I cannot seem to set it
correctly in single mode to receive on just one midi channel, it wants
to respond to all channels, could someone please go over these steps
with me please, I must be missing something. Thank you, e

OB Xpander
Processor v1.2
Voice v1.4
Casette v1.0



Re: Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

 

re: far right do you mean on the zone encoder ?
Im not seeing Omni ? as a selection (just Zone 1-3, CV1-6, CH 1-16)

Can someone please check on this when there in front of there machine. Thanks


On Mar 11, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Karl Schmeer wrote:

?

Hi,
Each zone (in single mode) may be set to it's own midi channel,
or to Omni mode.

Try this button sequence:

>> Master Page >> ?Zone?>> Zone Number (1 - 6)

At the far right of the zone page is the midi channel, make sure it is
not set to omni.

Best Luck

Karl

?

________________________________
From: "endofcommon@...endofcommon@...>
To: xpantastic@...
Sent: Mon, March 11, 2013 5:31:12 PM
Subject: Re: [xpantastic] Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

?
Xpander Master Midi channel is set to Ch1?(Master, Midi, Channel), Logic is
sending out on Ch. 1 ?(tested all other channels working correctly). Has it to
do with midi zones/ (master/midi/zones) perhaps ? Again this is in single mode.
?Thanks, e

On Mar 11, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Ancient Eyeball Recipe wrote:

?
>
>
>Well, my guess would be that either the xpander doesn't have its midi channel
>set to one (I think that the default may be 'omni', which would produce your
>symptoms), OR you're channelizing the output incorrectly ?through your DAW,
>which can be easy to do.
>
>
>
>In any case, I'm not in front of my matrix 12 at the moment, but logically
>that's what comes to mind.
>
>________________________________
From: endofcommon@...
>To: xpantastic@...
>Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 3:24:05 PM
>Subject: [xpantastic] Xpander Midi Recieve Channel
>
>?
>Until recently I had my my Xpander on its own midi buss, but due to
>some setup thinning out, it now needs to share a midi bus (1 Midi out
>from a Emagic MT-4) with other synths but I cannot seem to set it
>correctly in single mode to receive on just one midi channel, it wants
>to respond to all channels, could someone please go over these steps
>with me please, I must be missing something. Thank you, e
>
>OB Xpander
>Processor v1.2
>Voice v1.4
>Casette v1.0
>
>
>



Re: Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

 

Hi,
Each zone (in single mode) may be set to it's own midi channel,
or to Omni mode.

Try this button sequence:

Master Page >> ?Zone?>> Zone Number (1 - 6)
At the far right of the zone page is the midi channel, make sure it is
not set to omni.

Best Luck

Karl

?




________________________________
From: "endofcommon@..." <endofcommon@...>
To: xpantastic@...
Sent: Mon, March 11, 2013 5:31:12 PM
Subject: Re: [xpantastic] Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

?
Xpander Master Midi channel is set to Ch1?(Master, Midi, Channel), Logic is
sending out on Ch. 1 ?(tested all other channels working correctly). Has it to
do with midi zones/ (master/midi/zones) perhaps ? Again this is in single mode.
?Thanks, e



On Mar 11, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Ancient Eyeball Recipe wrote:

?


Well, my guess would be that either the xpander doesn't have its midi channel
set to one (I think that the default may be 'omni', which would produce your
symptoms), OR you're channelizing the output incorrectly ?through your DAW,
which can be easy to do.



In any case, I'm not in front of my matrix 12 at the moment, but logically
that's what comes to mind.

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From: endofcommon@...
To: xpantastic@...
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 3:24:05 PM
Subject: [xpantastic] Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

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Until recently I had my my Xpander on its own midi buss, but due to
some setup thinning out, it now needs to share a midi bus (1 Midi out
from a Emagic MT-4) with other synths but I cannot seem to set it
correctly in single mode to receive on just one midi channel, it wants
to respond to all channels, could someone please go over these steps
with me please, I must be missing something. Thank you, e

OB Xpander
Processor v1.2
Voice v1.4
Casette v1.0



Re: Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

Ancient Eyeball Recipe
 

just realized that I have the matrix 12 pdf manual here at work...

it looks like you need to set it in the zone itself, or in multiple zones if you have the voices mapped out that way. It looks like the basic channel is used for program changes. "Thus Patch Changes are global commands and Notes and Controllers are tied in to the ZONES or individual channel settings in VASSIGN"




From: endofcommon@...
To: xpantastic@...
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 3:42:29 PM
Subject: Re: [xpantastic] Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

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Xpander Master Midi channel is set to Ch1?(Master, Midi, Channel), Logic is sending out on Ch. 1 ?(tested all other channels working correctly). Has it to do with midi zones/ (master/midi/zones) perhaps ? Again this is in single mode. ?Thanks, e


On Mar 11, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Ancient Eyeball Recipe wrote:

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Well, my guess would be that either the xpander doesn't have its midi channel set to one (I think that the default may be 'omni', which would produce your symptoms), OR you're channelizing the output incorrectly ?through your DAW, which can be easy to do.

In any case, I'm not in front of my matrix 12 at the moment, but logically that's what comes to mind.


From: endofcommon@...
To: xpantastic@...
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 3:24:05 PM
Subject: [xpantastic] Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

?

Until recently I had my my Xpander on its own midi buss, but due to
some setup thinning out, it now needs to share a midi bus (1 Midi out
from a Emagic MT-4) with other synths but I cannot seem to set it
correctly in single mode to receive on just one midi channel, it wants
to respond to all channels, could someone please go over these steps
with me please, I must be missing something. Thank you, e

OB Xpander
Processor v1.2
Voice v1.4
Casette v1.0




Re: Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

 

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Not being in front of my Xpander too,- but typing from my head:

go to [Master] page > [MIDI] > select the MIDI channel Xpander will listen to

go to [Zone] > [Input] > set Zone 1 to the same channel ...

so, if you have set both p.ex. to [5], Xpander will listen to MIDI on channel 5.

double check the [Limits] (keyrange) is set to 0-127 and [Mode] is set to "rotate",- this works for 6 voice poly.

double check for MIDI controllers being assigned to levers, switches, pedal 1 & 2.

In case you dont hear anything, which can happen when you switch between single and multi patch mode back and forth by some reason,- send a MIDI CC#7 value 127 volume command from your master keyboard controller.


Am 11.03.2013 23:24, schrieb endofcommon@...:

Until recently I had my my Xpander on its own midi buss, but due to
some setup thinning out, it now needs to share a midi bus (1 Midi out
from a Emagic MT-4) with other synths but I cannot seem to set it
correctly in single mode to receive on just one midi channel, it wants
to respond to all channels, could someone please go over these steps
with me please, I must be missing something. Thank you, e

OB Xpander
Processor v1.2
Voice v1.4
Casette v1.0




Re: Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

Ancient Eyeball Recipe
 

If I remember, I'll look at my matrix later after I get home. I think that it's the same setup.

There is probably a separate zone midi channel - I vaguely recall that single mode uses zone 1 by default (?). In any case, it might be worth poking around to see if there is somewhere else where a midi channel is set.


From: endofcommon@...
To: xpantastic@...
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 3:42:29 PM
Subject: Re: [xpantastic] Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

?

Xpander Master Midi channel is set to Ch1?(Master, Midi, Channel), Logic is sending out on Ch. 1 ?(tested all other channels working correctly). Has it to do with midi zones/ (master/midi/zones) perhaps ? Again this is in single mode. ?Thanks, e


On Mar 11, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Ancient Eyeball Recipe wrote:

?

Well, my guess would be that either the xpander doesn't have its midi channel set to one (I think that the default may be 'omni', which would produce your symptoms), OR you're channelizing the output incorrectly ?through your DAW, which can be easy to do.

In any case, I'm not in front of my matrix 12 at the moment, but logically that's what comes to mind.


From: endofcommon@...
To: xpantastic@...
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 3:24:05 PM
Subject: [xpantastic] Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

?

Until recently I had my my Xpander on its own midi buss, but due to
some setup thinning out, it now needs to share a midi bus (1 Midi out
from a Emagic MT-4) with other synths but I cannot seem to set it
correctly in single mode to receive on just one midi channel, it wants
to respond to all channels, could someone please go over these steps
with me please, I must be missing something. Thank you, e

OB Xpander
Processor v1.2
Voice v1.4
Casette v1.0




Re: Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

 

Xpander Master Midi channel is set to Ch1?(Master, Midi, Channel), Logic is sending out on Ch. 1 ?(tested all other channels working correctly). Has it to do with midi zones/ (master/midi/zones) perhaps ? Again this is in single mode. ?Thanks, e

On Mar 11, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Ancient Eyeball Recipe wrote:

?

Well, my guess would be that either the xpander doesn't have its midi channel set to one (I think that the default may be 'omni', which would produce your symptoms), OR you're channelizing the output incorrectly ?through your DAW, which can be easy to do.

In any case, I'm not in front of my matrix 12 at the moment, but logically that's what comes to mind.


From: endofcommon@...
To: xpantastic@...
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 3:24:05 PM
Subject: [xpantastic] Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

?

Until recently I had my my Xpander on its own midi buss, but due to
some setup thinning out, it now needs to share a midi bus (1 Midi out
from a Emagic MT-4) with other synths but I cannot seem to set it
correctly in single mode to receive on just one midi channel, it wants
to respond to all channels, could someone please go over these steps
with me please, I must be missing something. Thank you, e

OB Xpander
Processor v1.2
Voice v1.4
Casette v1.0




Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

 

Until recently I had my my Xpander on its own midi buss, but due to some setup thinning out, it now needs to share a midi bus (1 Midi out from a Emagic MT-4) with other synths but I cannot seem to set it correctly in single mode to receive on just one midi channel, it wants to respond to all channels, could someone please go over these steps with me please, I must be missing something. Thank you, e

OB Xpander
Processor v1.2
Voice v1.4
Casette v1.0


Re: Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

Ancient Eyeball Recipe
 

Well, my guess would be that either the xpander doesn't have its midi channel set to one (I think that the default may be 'omni', which would produce your symptoms), OR you're channelizing the output incorrectly ?through your DAW, which can be easy to do.

In any case, I'm not in front of my matrix 12 at the moment, but logically that's what comes to mind.



From: endofcommon@...
To: xpantastic@...
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 3:24:05 PM
Subject: [xpantastic] Xpander Midi Recieve Channel

?

Until recently I had my my Xpander on its own midi buss, but due to
some setup thinning out, it now needs to share a midi bus (1 Midi out
from a Emagic MT-4) with other synths but I cannot seem to set it
correctly in single mode to receive on just one midi channel, it wants
to respond to all channels, could someone please go over these steps
with me please, I must be missing something. Thank you, e

OB Xpander
Processor v1.2
Voice v1.4
Casette v1.0


Re: Xpander: How do you remove the matte finish

 

Oh, jee! Looks good.

This reminded me that I used to have a Solina String Ensamble, which was dropped during transportation and one of the wooden panels broke. Then, accidentally I sold an other synth to a retired carpenter, who was so happy with our deal that he wanted to repair the Solina box without charging that he did. When I received the repaired panel, I got an idea to treat all the panels as I used to do many times with my father for our wooden boat a long time ago. I.e., I did sand them well and treated with a good furniture lacquer 3-4 times. The result was really great. It looked darker and much deeper than the original (the lacquer must have been a little dark) and astonishingly glossy! So, the Solina became our most beautiful furniture in my opinion. In case of Xpander you need to know how to treat metal panels, I guess. But, have you seen those shiny cars treated with epoxy or something? Maybe the same method could be used. So, you might want to ask this in a car paintshop. ...

:)