Hi Tony,

On of my favorite things to do: midi up my emu XL7 drum machine to my
M12 and replace each drum with a patch I write from scratch. It seems
I have to tweak the drums to get them to sound good together. Try
using the ramps ( set to Zero ) instead of envelopes, the attack
sounds faster to me. Use an envelope for the decay or put the ramp
through a tracking generator.
Also, use a resonated (res set to max) 4PL filter for the bass drum,
and I promise you the earth will shake.
On bass and toms, use a ramp or envelope to sweep the frequency
slightly. This gives the bending drum-head sound.

I still do not have midiOX running on my studio computer (no time) so
I don't have a way to move ptches yet.

BTW what ever happened to XevenT? I really liked the concept there.

Karl

--- In xpantastic@..., "Tony Cappellini" <cappy2112@...>
wrote:

Does anyone have any percussive patches they can upload?

I've never been able to make good-sounding percussive patches on the
Xpander.
I've heard the MP3 of a track which is supposedly done only the

Xpander/M12,

that is uploaded in the file section.

This is a great example that the Xpander/M12 are capable of such

sounds, but

the patches themselves are not available.

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Yep !
Most of the factory programs have to be edited to your taste and to be reprogrammed for usage w/ midi-controllers.
This is a machine for sound designers,- program it yourself and you?ll hear how it can sound.
I?ve seen pro-musicians, selling their Xpander after 2 or 3 years because they never learned to program this machine, just used the presets, did minor tweaks and were tired w/ the sounds that way.

Self programming is the secret w/ the Xpander.

OT:

Is there some progress w/ the display-thread ?

Phil: You fixed your encoders w/ a Servisol Super10 Switch Claening Lubricant. Does it work anymore after some weeks now?

PeWe

Jeremy Smith schrieb:

Tony Cappellini wrote:

MidiOx doesn't work.

I use Midiox to send/receive patches to/from my Xpander & OB8 quite
often. It works just fine.
You need to Enable Receive Midi and ENable Sysex independantly.
These can be done from the menu, or form the lower right corner of the
the status bar (at the bottom of the screen)

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Hi,

Thanks for the info, I'll have to try harder with Midiox.

Also, now I've got these patch banks installed, I finally hear what this synth is capable of! Also dispelling any worries that it's not in good condition.

All the best,

Jeremy.

MidiOx doesn't work.

I use Midiox to send/receive patches to/from my Xpander & OB8 quite
often. It works just fine.
You need to Enable Receive Midi and ENable Sysex independantly.
These can be done from the menu, or form the lower right corner of the
the status bar (at the bottom of the screen)

It's split into 2 areas, above and below. Click on Tools (below) and you get 'Open From File'. Click that and select a .SYX bank or patch file from disk.

Sorry, that's Tools (above)

Jeremy.

Tony Cappellini wrote:

The sysex header for sending a patch to the xpander contains one byte
which indicates the patch number.

However, There is an independant edit buffer which allows you to edit
a patch remotely (and locally to, I think) without affecting any of
the patches
already stored in locations 1-100

This edit buffer allows you to tweak patches, and compare the edit to
the original, when you are inMulti Mode
Oberheim thought of everything and they sure had some great software
engineers who could squeeze out ever bit of capability out of a
1.89Mhz 6809!
(although, I do wish the envelopes were generated in hardware instead
of software)

Well, I figured it out.

MidiOx doesn't work.

SyxLibEd is a bit complex, but worked!

For anyone wishing to transfer banks to the Xpander and back, SyxLibEd works well on Windows.

It's split into 2 areas, above and below. Click on Tools (below) and you get 'Open From File'. Click that and select a .SYX bank or patch file from disk.

Select the MIDI device that is connected to the Xpander's Midi Out, then click the button with '|' on it. It goes to '->' as it transfers the bank.

When finished, it should flip back to '|'.

Now on the Xpander, change patch down and up 1 to get the new named patches.

Jeremy.

Are any of the Xpander owners on this list in/near the San Francisco Bay Area?

I have had my doubts about how good my Xpander sounds for some time,
and would like to compare it side by side with another Xpander
using the same patches.

It may be that my Xpander just needs to be re-capped or has some other problem.


Please reply to me off-list.

Thanks

The sysex header for sending a patch to the xpander contains one byte
which indicates the patch number.

However, There is an independant edit buffer which allows you to edit
a patch remotely (and locally to, I think) without affecting any of
the patches
already stored in locations 1-100

This edit buffer allows you to tweak patches, and compare the edit to
the original, when you are inMulti Mode
Oberheim thought of everything and they sure had some great software
engineers who could squeeze out ever bit of capability out of a
1.89Mhz 6809!
(although, I do wish the envelopes were generated in hardware instead
of software)

Does anyone know which Midi Enb switches need to be on to send patches?

I dont think you need to enable sysex to send, but top receive.
I may be wrong.
Either way, enable the Sysex function on the Midi page, for the
Xpander to receive patches.

Hi folks,

When my Xpander receives a patch by SysEx, the sub-page Midi Enb flicks to the main Midi screen, indicating something must have happened, yet the patch is unsent. This goes for patches sent to position 99, and banks.

Memory Protect is set to Off.

I'm concerned the ROM has somehow been damaged.

Does anyone know which Midi Enb switches need to be on to send patches?

Also, I can send banks to the PC from the patch send page (Midi Snd - All) with no problems.

Thanks,

Jeremy

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But it causes, just as a substitute, being installed on a "well configurated" machine and loaded in a whacky host, permanent and far more excessive brain damage !!!! :-)))))))))))

Anyway,- I have both, which maximizes the excess ...

:-)

Jeremy Smith schrieb:

Who want?s a Oberheim emulation should buy the O-PX Pro,- it?s just updated and it?s doing some quite good Xpander like sounds, but not
all. In any way, it?s a tool which saves some lifetime for the
original because you don?t have to run your Xpander/Matrix 10hrs all day.
Who is satisfied w/ the sparing functionality of a OBX should buy the
O-PX version without the SEM like multimode filters.

These emulations don?t replace the originals ( if you have one) but
outperform a Matrix-1000 and do everything standard you need in a DAW
environment.

It?s all there more or less.



:-)

.

The O-PX Pro is nice, but to my ear it lacks something from the Xpander
- a kind of punchiness which causes temporary ear damage in excess. ;-)

Jeremy.

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Jeremy Smith schrieb:

Tony Cappellini wrote:
>
> I thought you all would be interested in this

Yes, thx!
I?ve just read it and there seem to be a few guys talking about something, they don?t have knowledge about.
Fritzman on page 4 / Fri Aug 26 2005 3:31,- one of the last postings b.t.w., he, he, ...
... wants a OBXa because Lyle Mays did great things w/ it on Pat methenys recordings.

Wow ! An expert ! Lyle never played a OBXa and if someone is posting in a thread about a future Xpander/Matrix emulation while being not able to hear the difference of a OBXa, a Xpander/Matrix and more important, the SEM based OB 4-voice Lyle really used ?til the end of the 90th (I?ve seen him in a live concert at this time),- this guy is still a blabber.

>
I find interesting the point that Gibson *should* license the technology
to help everyone get Xpanders cheap.

However, on the other hand, Gibson is doing old Oberheim customers a
service by keeping their synths unique and valuable in the secondary market.

Jeremy.

I?m really not interested in blabbers ( see above) get our beloved original toys cheap in software emulation which possibly will never sound like the original and is just a good looking GUI on the screen which will be cracked in a minute and available in the torrents and I like very much, the original has some value in the vintage gear market up today.

Who want?s a Oberheim emulation should buy the O-PX Pro,- it?s just updated and it?s doing some quite good Xpander like sounds, but not all. In any way, it?s a tool which saves some lifetime for the original because you don?t have to run your Xpander/Matrix 10hrs all day.
Who is satisfied w/ the sparing functionality of a OBX should buy the O-PX version without the SEM like multimode filters.

These emulations don?t replace the originals ( if you have one) but outperform a Matrix-1000 and do everything standard you need in a DAW environment.

It?s all there more or less.



:-)

.

Tony Cappellini wrote:

I thought you all would be interested in this


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I find interesting the point that Gibson *should* license the technology to help everyone get Xpanders cheap.

However, on the other hand, Gibson is doing old Oberheim customers a service by keeping their synths unique and valuable in the secondary market.

Jeremy.

Just wanted to let everybody know that my voice failure problem has
been fixed thanks to the very kind and very smart advice of Karl
(tsohta).
Old capacitors are often the first thing to replace in synths, and not
the rare and expensive chips . Thanks again, Karl !

At 12:02 PM +0000 8/26/08, Karl wrote:

MOTM was one of the few still making electronic kits, with a quality I
have never seen before and probably will never see again. It just bums
me out,

Well, you're absolutely right about the quality thing, and I am also bummed out about it. However, if it's a choice between more and better modules on the one hand and kits on the other, I'll be able to live without the kits.

and I got carried away.

I have no problem with getting carried away at all!

My apologies

None needed. I just wanted to make sure everyone knew that MOTM was still alive and well and thriving.




Seth




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Ok Seth,

MOTOM was one of the few still making electronic kits, with a quality I
have never seen before and probably will never see again. It just bums
me out, and I got carried away.

My apologies

Karl