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Question about battery charging / conditioning


 

I see lots of battery related discussions. My X6100 is new and I am going through the conditioning/learning process of charging and discharging.

My understanding is that when charging, the green light blinks for a time, then goes solid green, and then supposedly it will go out when the battery is considered fully charged?

Mine never goes out. It will go from blinking to solid green. Regardless of how much more time elapses (at least within a number of hours) it stays on.

If I turn the radio on, the battery indicator still shows the charging lightening bolt symbol. If I unplug the charger, battery voltage shows 8.0 volts which I understand should be more like 8.2 or 8.3 when fully charged.

Should I just be waiting longer? How long? I have left it for 8-10 hours on charge and this is as far as it goes.

TIA.


 

I let my unit shutdown, from lack of battery power. ?Is that bad?—I don’t know; it has an 18 month warranty. ?I charge ‘overnight’: sometimes 10 hours, sometimes longer. ?The manual, if I remember correctly, states that the unit will stop battery charging when the batteries are fully charged. ?When starting, voltage on waterfall reads 8.2V. ?Then voltage quickly drops to 8.1V, and slowly goes down from there. ?Come to think of it, voltage does not read 8.1V for very long either. ?I usually get 3 hours of listening from a full charge, with interspersed transmissions.

After ‘conditioning’ the battery with the recommended charge/discharge cycles, my unit stopped with the blinking green light, and then going to steady green.

This page has information on the X6100 battery.


 

John - KZ4AX

First I do think the voltage display is not exact.? So if reading 8.0 then I? would consider the battery fully charged.? If you did let charge for another 2 or so hours after the LED stopped blinking then the battery is fully charged.

In operation you will see the battery voltage drop quickly to 7.9V and remain there for the discharge.? I get about 2 hours of operation with my X6100 when using the internal battery.

73, ron, n9ee/r

Ron Wright, N9EE/R
Hernando Co ARES EC
Spring Hill, Florida also n9ee55@...


On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 11:37:06 AM EST, John - KZ4AX <beastwrk@...> wrote:


I let my unit shutdown, from lack of battery power. ?Is that bad?—I don’t know; it has an 18 month warranty. ?I charge ‘overnight’: sometimes 10 hours, sometimes longer. ?The manual, if I remember correctly, states that the unit will stop battery charging when the batteries are fully charged. ?When starting, voltage on waterfall reads 8.2V. ?Then voltage quickly drops to 8.1V, and slowly goes down from there. ?Come to think of it, voltage does not read 8.1V for very long either. ?I usually get 3 hours of listening from a full charge, with interspersed transmissions.

After ‘conditioning’ the battery with the recommended charge/discharge cycles, my unit stopped with the blinking green light, and then going to steady green.

This page has information on the X6100 battery.


 

Thank you John, makes me feel better about how my radio is behaving.

73, KDOGIS Mike


Anaxi
 
Edited

Hello Everyone,
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Before purchasing this radio, I did some readings on this group and other readings available out there. Two issues seem to be major concern among the owners of this rig: 1) internal battery charge/discharge management; heat generated by digital modes. There are other little issues, but I will focus on this two.
Received the radio last Thursday, Dec 7th, and being aware about those two big concerns, before any other kind of radio usage, I started immediately checking the battery according to information found in https://www.radioddity.com/blogs/all/xiegu-x6100-battery-charging-questions-and-answers. The radio came with what I believe to be the last firmware (APP v1.1.7 Aug 25 2023 and BASE v1.1.6 Mar 7 2023).
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[Charge/Discharge 1]
Started charging at 8:00pm (Solid Green)
Stopped charging at 8:00am (Solid Green)
Started discharging at 8:05am (8.2 volt)
? ? 7.7 volt (White Status) after 1 hour of listening
? ? 7.4 volt (Yellow Status) after 2 hour of listening
? ? 7.3 volt (Red Status) after 3 hour of listening
Shutdown 7.1 volt (Lasted 3h32m)
?
[Charge/Discharge 2]
Started charging at 11:45am (Blinking Green)
Stopped charging at 5:00pm (Solid Green)
Started discharging at 5:15pm (8.2 volt)
? ? 7.7 volt (White Status) after 1 hour of listening
? ? 7.4 volt (Yellow Status) after 2 hour of listening
? ? 7.3 volt (Red Status) after 3 hour of listening
? ? 7.1 volt (Red Status) after 4 hour of listening
Shutdown 7.0 volt (Lasted 4h5m)
?
[Charge/Discharge 3]
Started charging at 12:00am (Blinking Green)
Stopped charging at 10:50am (Solid Green)
Started discharging at 11:00am (8.2 volt)
? ? 7.7 volt (White Status) after 1 hour of listening
? ? 7.4 volt (White Status) after 2 hour of listening
? ? 7.3 volt (Yellow Status) after 3 hour of listening
? ? 7.1 volt (Red Status) after 4 hour of listening
Shutdown 5.8 volt (Lasted 4h43m)
?
[Charge/Discharge 4]
Started charging at 3:50pm (Blinking Green)
Stopped charging at 12:00am (Solid Green)
Started discharging at 8:45am (8.2 volt)
? ? 7.7 volt (White Status) after 1 hour of listening
? ? 7.5 volt (White Status) after 2 hour of listening
? ? 7.3 volt (White Status) after 3 hour of listening
? ? 7.1 volt (Yellow Status) after 4 hour of listening
? ? 6.2 volt (Red Status) after 5 hour of listening
Shutdown 5.9 volt (Lasted 5h4m)
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The 4 charge/discharge cycles were achieved during the weekend (Saturday 9 and Sunday 10) and on in each cycle, allowed the radio to charge for 8-14 hours, always using the provided charger. During discharge, that was always is listening only, connected to YouLoop passive antenna, I would leave on until it shutdown himself.
Yesterday, Monday 11th, I used the radio for one hour or so and turned it off. Towards the end of day, I turned on the radio again, about 7.5 volt, and used until it turns off due to lack of battery. During this discharge cycle, the 5th, I noted that the battery status color code did no longer went from White->Yellow->Red, but instead, remaining always White while the voltage go down. I plugged radio to charger and this time, the green led did not blink while it was charging.
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There is serious problem on how power/battery is managed by this radio, no matter how carefully you follow recommendations... assuming that I did so.
Sorry for long post and probably some english grammar/spell erros :(


 

On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 06:52 AM, Anaxi wrote:
During this discharge cycle, the 5th, I noted that the battery status color code did no longer went from White->Yellow->Red, but instead, remaining always White while the voltage go down. I plugged radio to charger and this time, the green led did not blink while it was charging.
My X6100 did the exact same thing.
I reported this error via Radioddity’s webpage. ?The link is in one of the threads: NO response from Radioddity.
I emailed Radioddity explaining this situation, with photos: NO from Radioddity.


 

Here is the link if you wish to report the issue too.


 

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X6100 no es ICOM ni YAESU ni mucho menos KENWOOD. Sólo el precio lo indica. No tiene detrás un importante equipo de investigación y desarrollo. Es como es y ya es suficiente que la mayoría funcionen suficientemente bien.
Yo no me preocuparía de si el LED de batería es fijo, blanco o amarillo. Ya leo el nivel de tensión que hay. ?Necesito más?. Yo lo uso mucho con batería externa, CW y EFHW y en portable. Me gusta, pero no le exijo mas. ?No te gusta? Fácil: véndelo y compra un ICOM o un portable de “alta gama” (Discovery)
MNY TNX FROM SPAIN. TU.?

Saludos. Diego. EA1CN

El 12 dic 2023, a las 15:27, John - KZ4AX <beastwrk@...> escribió:

?Here is the link if you wish to report the issue too.


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TNX, Dido. EA1CN?


Anaxi
 

On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 02:27 PM, John - KZ4AX wrote:
Here is the link if you wish to report the issue too.

Thank you John, just filed a case. While doing so, I provided my email, but didn't received any email with a link where I can track the issue... maybe it will be sent later.

Anaxi