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Most of the posts here are about installation problems.?
it is time to create a flatpak for xephem.
who knows someone who can do this?
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I would like that. I have still not been able to get xephem to work on ubuntu 20.
Gordon
On Feb 6, 2021, at 8:30 AM, georg180662 via groups.io <georg.graf@...> wrote:
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Most of the posts here are about installation problems.?
it is time to create a flatpak for xephem.
who knows someone who can do this?
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Are you talking about a Snap installer package?
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That would be nice. Or something that works with apt-get.
On 2021-02-06 9:59 a.m., Jay C.
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Am Samstag, 6. Februar 2021, 15:30:13 CET schrieb georg180662: Most of the posts here are about installation problems. There are no problems on openSUSE... I'm providing specifically built packages for all current openSUSE Releases on OBS in Application:Geo that "just work". I'm also working on creating a ready to use live stick / VM image with xephem, stellarium, Cartes du ciel, and what else comes to mind (gimp, most likely). Cheers Mathias
it is time to create a flatpak for xephem.
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If I can figure out how to build a *.deb or snap for the Ubuntu/Debian series.? I *should be able to build either a snap or deb.
I've found instructions for both.? I just need to get of my duff and do it.
I have servers that can run containers of any/all versions of Debian/Ubuntu, once I figure out the build processes.? Those versions that support snap, should have consistent build processes.
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it should be a snap or flatpak, not a deb
The packages contain all dependencies like libmotif, libxm4 etc.?
These libraries are the base of the XEphem interface - and all of them are outdated. So it is getting more and more difficult to compile XEphem by yourself. I don't think Elwood will rewrite a completely new interface as a Gnome or KDE application.?
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As a flatpak or snap, XEphem can remain available for many years to come, despite XMotif, and also be easier to install on a variety of platforms.
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I use XEphem on? Slackware 64.? Using linuxdeploy -
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- I have bundled the necessary files into one folder (with
subfoldres), included libXpm. Copied that folder into a XUbuntu
20.04 box and launched xephem. It seems to work, although I did
not test it very long.
Stefano
On 2/6/21 7:11 PM, georg180662 wrote:
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it should be a snap or flatpak,
not a deb
The packages contain all dependencies like libmotif, libxm4
etc.?
These libraries are the base of the XEphem interface - and
all of them are outdated. So it is getting more and more
difficult to compile XEphem by yourself. I don't think Elwood
will rewrite a completely new interface as a Gnome or KDE
application.?
?
As a flatpak or snap, XEphem can remain available for many
years to come, despite XMotif, and also be easier to install on
a variety of platforms.
?
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I don't know what a flatpack is but please bear in mind that some users are on the BSDs, not only Linux. On 2/7/21, s.bortolussi@... via groups.io <s.bortolussi@...> wrote: I use XEphem on? Slackware 64.? Using linuxdeploy -
- I have bundled the necessary files into one folder (with subfoldres),
included libXpm. Copied that folder into a XUbuntu 20.04 box and
launched xephem. It seems to work, although I did not test it very long.
Stefano
On 2/6/21 7:11 PM, georg180662 wrote:
it *should* be a *snap or flatpak*, *not* a deb
The packages contain all dependencies like libmotif, libxm4 etc.
These libraries are the base of the XEphem interface - and all of them
are outdated. So it is getting more and more difficult to compile
XEphem by yourself. I don't think Elwood will rewrite a completely new
interface as a Gnome or KDE application.
As a flatpak or snap, XEphem can remain available for many years to
come, despite XMotif, and also be easier to install on a variety of
platforms.
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Yea in that case it'd be better to create a more versatile makefile with autotools or even go over to cmake so that the different distros can be accommodated.
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I don't know what a flatpack is but please bear in mind that some
users are on the BSDs, not only Linux.
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> I use XEphem on? Slackware 64.? Using linuxdeploy -
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> - I have bundled the necessary files into one folder (with subfoldres),
> included libXpm. Copied that folder into a XUbuntu 20.04 box and
> launched xephem. It seems to work, although I did not test it very long.
>
> Stefano
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> On 2/6/21 7:11 PM, georg180662 wrote:
>> it *should* be a *snap or flatpak*, *not* a deb
>> The packages contain all dependencies like libmotif, libxm4 etc.
>> These libraries are the base of the XEphem interface - and all of them
>> are outdated. So it is getting more and more difficult to compile
>> XEphem by yourself. I don't think Elwood will rewrite a completely new
>> interface as a Gnome or KDE application.
>> As a flatpak or snap, XEphem can remain available for many years to
>> come, despite XMotif, and also be easier to install on a variety of
>> platforms.
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Did you try my packages for Debian/Ubuntu distros?
It's working for me but I've come via dist-upgrade from 18.04
Let me know if it fail - I'll try on clean install 20.04
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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 15:27:47 +0000
From: "Sarty, Gordon" <gordon.sarty@...>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [xephem] it is time to create a flatpak for xephem
I would like that. I have still not been able to get xephem to work on ubuntu 20.
Gordon
On Feb 6, 2021, at 8:30 AM, georg180662 via groups.io <georg.graf@...> wrote:
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Most of the posts here are about installation problems.?
it is time to create a flatpak for xephem.
who knows someone who can do this?
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I used ?ukasz's distribution at some point in the past. XEphem continued to work when the operating system changed to Ubuntu 20.04 / Mint 20.1. Thank you ?ukasz.
XEphem is a nightly help to me. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU to everyone who have been taking charge of packaging. Thank you most Elwood!
Bernie
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On 2/7/21 8:37 AM, ?ukasz 'e2rd' Sanocki wrote: Did you try my packages for Debian/Ubuntu distros?
It's working for me but I've come via dist-upgrade from 18.04
Let me know if it fail - I'll try on clean install 20.04
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 15:27:47 +0000
From: "Sarty, Gordon" <gordon.sarty@...>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [xephem] it is time to create a flatpak for xephem
I would like that. I have still not been able to get xephem to work on ubuntu 20.
Gordon
On Feb 6, 2021, at 8:30 AM, georg180662 via groups.io <georg.graf@...> wrote:
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Most of the posts here are about installation problems.
it is time to create a flatpak for xephem.
who knows someone who can do this?
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Am Samstag, 6. Februar 2021, 19:11:47 CET schrieb georg180662: it *should* be a *snap or flatpak* , *not* a deb After some experiments I'm strongly opposing snap - for ANYTHING, not just xephem: snap can't be used if your home directory is not under /home. That is just stupid. that needs to be fixed in snapd or snap needs to die. Cheers MH -- Mathias Homann Senior Systems Engineer, IT Consultant. IT Trainer Mathias.Homann@... (email / XMPP) LinkedIn: telegram: keybase: gpg key fingerprint: 8029 2240 F4DD 7776 E7D2 C042 6B8E 029E 13F2 C102
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I like debs. apt install handles debs ok.
The limits of snap are silly but I've worked around them.
I don't know what a flatpak is.
Gordon
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Am Samstag, 6. Februar 2021, 19:11:47 CET schrieb georg180662:
it *should* be a *snap or flatpak* , *not* a deb After some experiments I'm strongly opposing snap - for ANYTHING, not just
xephem: snap can't be used if your home directory is not under /home.
That is just stupid.
that needs to be fixed in snapd or snap needs to die.
Cheers
MH
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I would encourage us to keep a tar.gz of it also.
Is anyone in charge of doing this or are random people pitching in when they can?
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On 3/19/21 7:29 PM, Sarty, Gordon wrote: I like debs. apt install handles debs ok.
The limits of snap are silly but I've worked around them.
I don't know what a flatpak is.
Gordon
On 2021-03-19 4:37 p.m., Mathias Homann via groups.io wrote:
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Am Samstag, 6. Februar 2021, 19:11:47 CET schrieb georg180662:
it *should* be a *snap or flatpak* , *not* a deb After some experiments I'm strongly opposing snap - for ANYTHING, not just
xephem: snap can't be used if your home directory is not under /home.
That is just stupid.
that needs to be fixed in snapd or snap needs to die.
Cheers
MH
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Senior Systems Engineer, IT Consultant. IT Trainer
Mathias.Homann@... (email / XMPP)
LinkedIn:
telegram:
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Yes, please, a tar.gz. On a quick look flatpak is only for linux.
Xephem at least used to run and Apples and the BSDs.
"The future of ap[s on Linux"
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On 3/19/21, Gilbert Gnarley <gnzxzx@...> wrote: I would encourage us to keep a tar.gz of it also.
Is anyone in charge of doing this or are random people pitching in when
they can?
On 3/19/21 7:29 PM, Sarty, Gordon wrote:
I like debs. apt install handles debs ok.
The limits of snap are silly but I've worked around them.
I don't know what a flatpak is.
Gordon
On 2021-03-19 4:37 p.m., Mathias Homann via groups.io wrote:
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Am Samstag, 6. Februar 2021, 19:11:47 CET schrieb georg180662:
it *should* be a *snap or flatpak* , *not* a deb After some experiments I'm strongly opposing snap - for ANYTHING, not
just
xephem: snap can't be used if your home directory is not under /home.
That is just stupid.
that needs to be fixed in snapd or snap needs to die.
Cheers
MH
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Senior Systems Engineer, IT Consultant. IT Trainer
Mathias.Homann@... (email / XMPP)
LinkedIn:
telegram:
keybase:
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Here in FreeBSD 12.2 amd64 working just great! from ports! on plasma.
Eric De La Cruz Lugo Merida Yucatan
Mexico
On Saturday, March 20, 2021, 3:57:34 PM CST, ab1jx <alan01346@...> wrote:
Yes, please, a tar.gz.? On a quick look flatpak is only for linux.
Xephem at least used to run and Apples and the BSDs.
"The future of ap[s on Linux"
On 3/19/21, Gilbert Gnarley < gnzxzx@...> wrote: > I would encourage us to keep a tar.gz of it also. > Is anyone in charge of doing this or are random people pitching in when > they can? > > On 3/19/21 7:29 PM, Sarty, Gordon wrote: >> I like debs. apt install handles debs ok. >> >> The limits of snap are silly but I've worked around them. >> >> I don't know what a flatpak is. >> >> Gordon >> >> On 2021-03-19 4:37 p.m., Mathias Homann via groups.io wrote: >>> CAUTION: External to USask. Verify sender and use caution with links and >>> attachments. Forward suspicious emails to phishing@...>>> >>> >>> Am Samstag, 6. Februar 2021, 19:11:47 CET schrieb georg180662: >>>> it *should* be a *snap or flatpak* , *not* a deb >>> After some experiments I'm strongly opposing snap - for ANYTHING, not >>> just >>> xephem: snap can't be used if your home directory is not under /home. >>> That is just stupid. >>> >>> that needs to be fixed in snapd or snap needs to die. >>> >>> Cheers >>> MH >>> >>> -- >>> Mathias Homann >>> Senior Systems Engineer, IT Consultant. IT Trainer >>> Mathias.Homann@... (email / XMPP) >>> LinkedIn: >>> telegram: >>> keybase: >>> gpg key fingerprint: 8029 2240 F4DD 7776 E7D2 C042 6B8E 029E 13F2 C102 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > -- ------------- Education is contagious.
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Right, I think it's in ports/packages in OpenBSD too.? But did it come out of a flatpak?
Apparently from looking at https:// it could be used by other operating systems, they're only binaries, they cover most major architectures.? Does it bundle all the dependencies together or what?? sounds like it was written by salesmen or politicians.
On Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 6:37 PM Eric De La Cruz Lugo via <eric_delacruz= [email protected]> wrote:
Here in FreeBSD 12.2 amd64 working just great! from ports! on plasma.
Eric De La Cruz Lugo Merida Yucatan
Mexico
On Saturday, March 20, 2021, 3:57:34 PM CST, ab1jx < alan01346@...> wrote:
Yes, please, a tar.gz.? On a quick look flatpak is only for linux. Xephem at least used to run and Apples and the BSDs. "The future of ap[s on Linux" On 3/19/21, Gilbert Gnarley < gnzxzx@...> wrote: > I would encourage us to keep a tar.gz of it also. > Is anyone in charge of doing this or are random people pitching in when > they can? > > On 3/19/21 7:29 PM, Sarty, Gordon wrote: >> I like debs. apt install handles debs ok. >> >> The limits of snap are silly but I've worked around them. >> >> I don't know what a flatpak is. >> >> Gordon >> >> On 2021-03-19 4:37 p.m., Mathias Homann via wrote: >>> CAUTION: External to USask. Verify sender and use caution with links and >>> attachments. Forward suspicious emails to phishing@...>>> >>> >>> Am Samstag, 6. Februar 2021, 19:11:47 CET schrieb georg180662: >>>> it *should* be a *snap or flatpak* , *not* a deb >>> After some experiments I'm strongly opposing snap - for ANYTHING, not >>> just >>> xephem: snap can't be used if your home directory is not under /home. >>> That is just stupid. >>> >>> that needs to be fixed in snapd or snap needs to die. >>> >>> Cheers >>> MH >>> >>> -- >>> Mathias Homann >>> Senior Systems Engineer, IT Consultant. IT Trainer >>> Mathias.Homann@... (email / XMPP) >>> LinkedIn: >>> telegram: >>> keybase: >>> gpg key fingerprint: 8029 2240 F4DD 7776 E7D2 C042 6B8E 029E 13F2 C102 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > -- ------------- Education is contagious.
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Ok, just to throw in my two cents...
I managed to get xephem to build an run on my Ubuntu Linux box with no problems at all. After a quick re-try, back when this thread started, I failed. Since atm. I have no enough time to dig in deeper, I haven't figured out why.
Anyway I would like to see someone offering a flatpak, too. That would be a really handy feature.
Since I dislike Snappy, for the reasons already mentioned, let me point out two further alternatives, there's also AppImage and Zero Install, which try to resolve the same issue:
-Harri
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Betreff: Re: [xephem] it is time to create a flatpak for xephem
Yes, please, a tar.gz. On a quick look flatpak is only for linux.
Xephem at least used to run and Apples and the BSDs.
"The future of ap[s on Linux"
On 3/19/21, Gilbert Gnarley <gnzxzx@...> wrote:
I would encourage us to keep a tar.gz of it also.
Is anyone in charge of doing this or are random people pitching in when
they can?
On 3/19/21 7:29 PM, Sarty, Gordon wrote:
I like debs. apt install handles debs ok.
The limits of snap are silly but I've worked around them.
I don't know what a flatpak is.
Gordon
On 2021-03-19 4:37 p.m., Mathias Homann via groups.io wrote:
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Am Samstag, 6. Februar 2021, 19:11:47 CET schrieb georg180662:
it *should* be a *snap or flatpak* , *not* a deb After some experiments I'm strongly opposing snap - for ANYTHING, not
just
xephem: snap can't be used if your home directory is not under /home.
That is just stupid.
that needs to be fixed in snapd or snap needs to die.
Cheers
MH
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Senior Systems Engineer, IT Consultant. IT Trainer
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LinkedIn:
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I still does run on Mac OSX 10.14. I have it on my iMac now.
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On 3/20/21 5:57 PM, ab1jx wrote: Yes, please, a tar.gz. On a quick look flatpak is only for linux.
Xephem at least used to run and Apples and the BSDs.
"The future of ap[s on Linux"
On 3/19/21, Gilbert Gnarley <gnzxzx@...> wrote:
I would encourage us to keep a tar.gz of it also.
Is anyone in charge of doing this or are random people pitching in when
they can?
On 3/19/21 7:29 PM, Sarty, Gordon wrote:
I like debs. apt install handles debs ok.
The limits of snap are silly but I've worked around them.
I don't know what a flatpak is.
Gordon
On 2021-03-19 4:37 p.m., Mathias Homann via groups.io wrote:
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Am Samstag, 6. Februar 2021, 19:11:47 CET schrieb georg180662:
it *should* be a *snap or flatpak* , *not* a deb After some experiments I'm strongly opposing snap - for ANYTHING, not
just
xephem: snap can't be used if your home directory is not under /home.
That is just stupid.
that needs to be fixed in snapd or snap needs to die.
Cheers
MH
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Senior Systems Engineer, IT Consultant. IT Trainer
Mathias.Homann@... (email / XMPP)
LinkedIn:
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