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Re: Moon phases,solver

 

that's my guess too, I am looking for a (simplified) model to visualize that.
But I am stuck to this: there are three bodies,sun,earth and moon; two of them on the ecliptic plane; in case of a new moon the angle separation sun-observer-target of the projection of the moon on the ecliptic plane should be 0 in my thinking; but it is not. At what point I am wrong? Spherical trigonometry?
sorry for a not so clear description ...


Re: Moon phases,solver

 

Am Freitag, 10. Februar 2023, 11:58:43 CET schrieb s.bortolussi@... via
groups.io:
Thanks Mathias.
I would like to reckon moon phases for dates in the past (e.g. AD 1300).
What puzzles me is that for full (new) moon separation is less than 180 (0)
degrees. I try your suggestion with moon.phase

Just a guess: the orbit of the moon around the earth, and the orbit of the
earth around the sun, are not on the same plane - so a separation of 180°
would be quite rare, if possible at all. If you go by the separation angle,
don't search for 0° and 180°, just search for minimum and maximum.


Cheers
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Re: Moon phases,solver

 

Thanks Mathias.
I would like to reckon moon phases for dates in the past (e.g. AD 1300). What puzzles me is that for full (new) moon separation is less than 180 (0) degrees.
I try your suggestion with moon.phase
thanks
stefano


Re: Moon phases,solver

 

Am Freitag, 10. Februar 2023, 09:43:27 CET schrieb s.bortolussi@... via
groups.io:
Hello, I write to ask some "directions for use".
To reckon the next new or full moon date I use the solver tool.

the full moon for the current month is easily found in the calendar panel, but
I'm guessing you'Re aiming for finding the dates for next month as well?

in that case, use moon.phase - 100 is full moon, 0 is new moon.

Cheers
MH

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Moon phases,solver

 

Hello, I write to ask some "directions for use".
To reckon the next new or full moon date I use the solver tool. I set? "Moon.Sep" or "Moon.Elong" as the function and check "Find Minimum" or "Find Maximum" goal.
Here my questions:
- is this the correct way to do it?
- why the separation values are not 0 or 180 degrees at every new or full moon? Can you explain or point me to sources/models where to visualize the dynamics of involved bodies (in plain style if possible ...). If I am not wrong "Topocentric" or "Geocentric" setting does not change this too much.
Thanks in advance,
best regards
stefano


Ideas for using XEphem in the classroom?

 

Dear friends of XEphem,

I am seeking your opinion about how I could overhaul the astronomy practical work that I've had with my Bachelor students for quite a few years. They are in a curriculum for would-be school teachers (for pupils aged 3-11) thus this has to be scientifically robust though basic and very applied. I am not dreaming that some day they might use XEphem with the children (though, who knows?) but at least that this course gives them a minimal background.

I would like to modify it in-depth to better correspond to the historical buildup of knowledge over the centuries... I mean, starting as far as possible from sky observations, and I would also like to introduce some basic calculations (whereas in the current version, they use the Solar system view right at the beginning and that is not really an observation that one could make in real...). I am for example thinking of the calculation of the Earth's radius...

What do you think about it? Any suggestion or constructive criticism is welcome!

N.B. it is a Google translation of my document in French, that I quickly reviewed but not thouroughly polished...

Yours,
Maxime


Re: Installs fine with Linux Mint 21.1 (Kernel: Linux 5.15.0-56-generic)

 

The previous build runs fine on Mageia 8. Mageia 9 is still at the
alpha stage. When (if) it reaches beta level, I will run some new
tests with the new version. Anything that runs on PclOS usually runs
fine on Mageia.

Doug.

On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 12:45:35 -1000 "Bernie Walp"
<duckbill@...> wrote:

This does not pertain immediately to Maxime's question, but I can
report an effortless new installation on a new computer using Linux
Mint 21.1 (Kernel: Linux 5.15.0-56-generic).

Bernie

On 1/1/23 23:52, Jakob via groups.io wrote:
Hello Maxime,

I think you need to recompile xephem, to get the libraries right.

This is what I did (on Ubuntu 22.10):

xephem: apt install build-essential groff-base libmotif-dev
libssl-dev libxext-dev libxmu-dev libxt-dev Then: follow
xephem/INSTALL cd xephem/GUI/xephem
make clean
make
./xephem -> works!

Replacing your old binary by the newly compiled one might be enough
(not sure).

Hope this helps - Jakob.

Cheers - Jakob.








Installs fine with Linux Mint 21.1 (Kernel: Linux 5.15.0-56-generic)

 

This does not pertain immediately to Maxime's question, but I can report an effortless new installation on a new computer using Linux Mint 21.1 (Kernel: Linux 5.15.0-56-generic).

Bernie

On 1/1/23 23:52, Jakob via groups.io wrote:
Hello Maxime,
I think you need to recompile xephem, to get the libraries right.
This is what I did (on Ubuntu 22.10):
xephem: apt install build-essential groff-base libmotif-dev libssl-dev libxext-dev libxmu-dev libxt-dev
Then: follow xephem/INSTALL
cd xephem/GUI/xephem
make clean
make
./xephem -> works!
Replacing your old binary by the newly compiled one might be enough (not sure).
Hope this helps - Jakob.
Cheers - Jakob.


Re: Problem after Ubuntu 20.04-->22.04 upgrade

 

Hello Maxime,

I think you need to recompile xephem, to get the libraries right.

This is what I did (on Ubuntu 22.10):

xephem: apt install build-essential groff-base libmotif-dev libssl-dev libxext-dev libxmu-dev libxt-dev
Then: follow xephem/INSTALL
cd xephem/GUI/xephem
make clean
make
./xephem -> works!

Replacing your old binary by the newly compiled one might be enough (not sure).

Hope this helps - Jakob.

Cheers - Jakob.


Problem after Ubuntu 20.04-->22.04 upgrade

 

Dear friends of XEphem,

I have the impression that the upgrade from Ubuntu 20.04 to 22.04 has messed up my XEphem install. I am no longer able to launch it from a terminal as I used to (xephem &), instead I get an error message: "xephem: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.1.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory".

Is there any simple way to fix this? Or should I reinstall XEphem from start (and if so, what shall I do to first remove it properly)?

Thank you for your help and clear skies for 2023!
Yours,
Maxime


xorg libXp support status

 


FYI regarding future support for libXp



---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Alan Coopersmith <alan.coopersmith@...>
Date: Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 1:52 PM
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] libXp 1.0.4
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>


This library provides support for X11 clients to print via the X Print
Extension, as previously implemented in the Xprt server.? X.Org removed
support for the Xprt server from the xorg-server releases in the 1.6.0
release in 2009, and the standalone git repo it was moved to has been
unmaintained since 2009, making it difficult to actually use this library.

While X.Org has continued to maintain this library for binary compatibility,
we do not plan to do so for the long term and encourage anyone still building
or shipping it to investigate how to stop doing so going forward as we now
consider it to be deprecated.

Adam Jackson (1):
? ? ? Fix a memory leak on the error path in XpGetLocaleNetString

Alan Coopersmith (9):
? ? ? Update README for gitlab migration
? ? ? Update bug URL for gitlab migration
? ? ? Build xz tarballs instead of bzip2
? ? ? Fix spelling/wording issues
? ? ? gitlab CI: add a basic build test
? ? ? XpNotifyPdm.c: fix -Wmisleading-indentation warning
? ? ? XpExtVer.c: fix -Wredundant-decls warning
? ? ? Add deprecation notice to README
? ? ? libXp 1.0.4

Emil Velikov (1):
? ? ? autogen.sh: use quoted string variables

Mihail Konev (1):
? ? ? autogen: add default patch prefix

Peter Hutterer (1):
? ? ? autogen.sh: use exec instead of waiting for configure to finish

git tag: libXp-1.0.4

: 05e46af1ccb68f1752cca5879774a4fb9bf3b19fe088eb745034956e0c6fadba? libXp-1.0.4.tar.gz
SHA512: a04018707bd8933c93c04f88361855d9f8129550fd5730befb5a0d5c4747ffe4b82630b80670f3cc718f0abd601e0e0927d6000b2fc32c9985db320b75cc59bb? libXp-1.0.4.tar.gz
PGP:?

: 1f19e3b8e82a34a8fd9889a7d9af0abe8588cb03fb57c37c569634cf3b9df1a4? libXp-1.0.4.tar.xz
SHA512: 50e82e7ee7222db13a04f6223ae8653eb783593c3b28825d7fc233af188960bec53d2b11ced281e01140d283d840d0e3822d71f95f5045d594fb704485fd0f89? libXp-1.0.4.tar.xz
PGP:?

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Re: Revisiting XEphem for Mac

 

Hi!

чт, 25 авг. 2022 г. в 03:45, Trane Francks <trane@...>:

Hi, gang.

This morning XQuartz reminded me that there's a new version (2.8.2) to which to upgrade. Alas, because versions later than 2.7.11 remove libXp, XEphem won't compile on macOS with a modern XQuartz. libXp dependence in XEphem should be removed and replaced with a modern lib for any missing functionality; otherwise, we're at risk of being left behind.

Unfortunately, it's way beyond my skill set to even analyze the code and figure out where such functionality is used.


XEphem 4.0.1 available via MacPorts for x86_64 macs:?

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Re: Revisiting XEphem for Mac

 

? The current revision of XEphem on GitHub is 4.1.0. That revision will compile without libXp, however I don't know if all dependencies upon libraries not available for macOS have been excised. I've encountered no difficulties building from source using Ubuntu-20.04 LTS, but don't have access to a Mac to see how things go in that environment.


Revisiting XEphem for Mac

 

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Hi, gang.

This morning XQuartz reminded me that there's a new version (2.8.2) to which to upgrade. Alas, because versions later than 2.7.11 remove libXp, XEphem won't compile on macOS with a modern XQuartz. libXp dependence in XEphem should be removed and replaced with a modern lib for any missing functionality; otherwise, we're at risk of being left behind.

Unfortunately, it's way beyond my skill set to even analyze the code and figure out where such functionality is used.

Cheers!

trane

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Re: OpenSSL version to link 4.1.0 against on Solaris 10

 

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Lutz M?ndle wrote:
Have a look at netmenu.c in <xephemroot>/GUI/xephem.
Change the following code at line 87 na beyond:

???????? ssl_method = SSLv23_client_method();??? /* deprecated since openssl 1.1.x */
//??? ??? ssl_method = TLS_client_method();??? /* since openssl 1.1.x */

to

// ??????? ssl_method = SSLv23_client_method();??? /* deprecated since openssl 1.1.x */
??? ??? ssl_method = TLS_client_method();??? /* since openssl 1.1.x */

Hope that helps.

Thanks!? I'll take a look at that.
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Re: OpenSSL version to link 4.1.0 against on Solaris 10

 

Have a look at netmenu.c in <xephemroot>/GUI/xephem.
Change the following code at line 87 na beyond:

???????? ssl_method = SSLv23_client_method();??? /* deprecated since openssl 1.1.x */
//??? ??? ssl_method = TLS_client_method();??? /* since openssl 1.1.x */

to

// ??????? ssl_method = SSLv23_client_method();??? /* deprecated since openssl 1.1.x */
??? ??? ssl_method = TLS_client_method();??? /* since openssl 1.1.x */

Hope that helps.


OpenSSL version to link 4.1.0 against on Solaris 10

 

I see that xephem 4.1.0 now needs some version of OpenSSL.
I have my own build of OpenSSL 1.1.1q, but it won't link against
that -- it has undefined symbols.? It will link with creaky old
unsupported OpenSSL 1.0.2u.? What version should I be using?

(Yes, I know that I might be the only person building this on
SPARC Solaris.)

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Re: GRS longitude syst.II

 

Many thanks, placed updated versions in/usr/share/xephem/auxil/ (in my case)


Re: GRS longitude syst.II

 

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The jupiter.2040 bdl file is available as all the other xxxx.2040 we sent to the new git site ...

On 09/05/2022 21:48, Elwood Downey wrote:
The jupiter.1020 bdl file is now out of date so the values are being computed using Meeus copyright 1982. The GRS has migrated several degrees away from the model built at that time.

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Re: GRS longitude syst.II

 

Many thanks for your elucidation!
(It is an honour! Best regards!)
Rui Teixeira