On Sat, 6 Aug 2022, Skip Hansen wrote:

Well it took a week of raiding my garage for old PCs, but I
**FINALLY** got RSS for the Spectra to run successfully.

IIRC that one is Pentium-safe.

Of course a Spectra is newer than the Syntor X9000 so I don't know if this
box will run the X9000's RSS or not.

The X9000 is only really picky for some of the option cards like MDC600.
Otherwise, a 25/50 MHz 386/486 laptop or tablet (e.g. Fujitsu 500) with
a slow CPU mode or low power mode works well for the DOS RSS radios,
control heads, DTMF controller and Siren/PA units.

That said, I have no idea if the X9000E with the trunking controller is
any amount of speed sensitive. Of course, it's impossible to brick an
X9000 because the firmware is EPROM, not EEPROM. The other EEPROM radios
can be bricked.

The Atmel Mega256 does have three serial ports, should it be necessary
to convert from USB to several serial ports.

It is unlikely anyone has the CPUs and firmware to set a radio up as the
second radio. Another idea therein is using the second control head
address (Rear control head).

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Architect, Systems Mangler, & Network Mismanager

For whatever it's worth and for whoever is interested I put the source for the Windoze control program on github.



If anyone rebuilds it using tools from this century I've be interested in hearing about it!.

I'm currently controlling my Xcat? from Windows 7 using an USB serial port.?

It worked the first time!? ?This is the first time I've tried the Xcat with anything more recent than XP.

73's Skip WB6YMH

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Skip, my experience is that it should work for X9000 RSS *if* you can get it to slow down to 486/386 speeds and load the DOS in the proper memory space. My paid for version of MoSlo accomplishes this for me on the Dell D630 laptop (real serial port) booted to W98SE DOS (often referred to as DOS 7).?

Well it took a week of raiding my garage for old PCs, but I **FINALLY** got RSS for the Spectra to run successfully.

The PC is an old surplus box that I bought probably 20 years ago at the TRW swap meet for $35.
It ran Linux 24/7 as my repeater controller & Echolink box running my thelinkbox software for at least 5 years.?
It hasn't been turned on for 12 years, but it worked when I tried earlier in the week.

Yesterday I installed a "fresh" copy of Windows 95 second edition and RSS.? Shock of shocks RSS reads my code plug successfully !

Of course a Spectra is newer than the Syntor X9000 so I don't know if this box will run the X9000's RSS or not.

73's Skip

Yikes... full live 1 second read zoomed in with one of the channels being chip select. I still need to figure out how to organize and label the channel names (surely I can do that like in Saleae Logic's stuff. Off to RTFM. At least it seems to be working.

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And I worked for Mostek in the 3870 days…..but not on those. But a buddy and I did build a Cactus emulating controller using a 38P70. One of them is still running at my house driving a Drake UV-3 remote base.?

I've got a Willem clone, no 21v on board, but can be connected to an external source.

Havent had a need to burn any 27C's? but it's good to be versatile.

Maybe we could start a spreadsheet of the versions and store the hex

> dumps.

I could probably host this dumped ROM collection.

> If I knew what good decently priced rom reader to get I would order
> one. I have three or four lowband units of varying age.

Seems like (E)EPROM programmers are everyone's second favorite religious
war. YMMV. I use an older Minipro (TL866CS). I grabbed a DataIO 29A
to revive in case I need to do weird older stuff. Revival pending
cycles. :)

The Minipro units (TL866II Plus, I think is the current model) will do
the needful for the EPROMs used in the Syntor X* family. $65 from the
XGecu store on Amazon:



The TL866A/CS models had a higher max Vpp (21V) vs the 18V of the
current version. There are older memories that require higher voltages
than even the older variant. If you go this way, beware of the
kazillion knockoffs; XGecu has done some work to try to limit piracy.

There's open source support for these if you are a unix person:



De

Didnt see a means to u/l an image file to the photos are so I

> uploaded a folder w/ 5 X9000 personality board pics in it. Same side
> but different angles trying to minimize flash glare.

I'm starting to want to collect code ROM versions and variants.

De

@ Skip,
Didnt see a means to u/l an image file to the photos are so I uploaded a folder w/ 5 X9000 personality board pics in it. Same side but different angles trying to minimize flash glare.
Gives ya something to peer at until yours gets there.

HD63A033YP

I see I fat-fingered this. HD63A03YP. One extra digit "3". Itchy
something finger. ;)

De

Wow was I off base. Thanks Dennis!

73's Skip WB6YMH

@ Dennis,
I see you found that 53 meg pdf. Lots to unpack it one wanted to do so.
I was tried to U/L it twice but I guess my connection was too slow and timed out.
It never said so, it just kept doing the circle thing until I aborted it.

On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 01:17 PM, Dennis Boone wrote:

The X uses a Hiticihi uC too I believe....dont recall which on that

> either but it isnt the same as the 9000.

The Syntor X uses an F8/3870 family processor.

Yeah, scratch that....it's a Mostek (Motorola) I was thinking xomething else....

On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 11:26 AM, Dennis Boone wrote:

256 bytes on the CPU, and I didn't see any offboard.

Yeah, no offboard on the busses that I could see either.

Hmm....That does make me wonder how it is storing all the user config info for all the modes....but I've got other things to puzzle over right now.

The X uses a Hiticihi uC too I believe....dont recall which on that

> either but it isnt the same as the 9000.

The Syntor X uses an F8/3870 family processor.

De

What is the exact part number? The NXP data sheet I found for the

> M68HC11E says 0,256,512 or 768 bytes of RAM.

HD63A033YP



> If anyone has the data sheet for the CPU please upload it to the files area.

/g/xcat/files/hitachi_hd63a03y_datasheet.pdf
/g/xcat/files/hd6301-3_handbook.pdf

De