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Re: Has anyone fully decoded the X9000 memory mapping?

 

Found the YouTube channel - Casey Crane. Thanks for the tip!
On Thursday, July 28, 2022, 03:58:45 PM CDT, Bradley Andrews via groups.io <kb9bpf@...> wrote:


It's been a while since I messed with my pile of Syntor X radios as well, but I'm sure interested in watching that YouTube video you mentioned. I did a little searching but wasn't certain I was seeing the video by Casey that you mentioned. Got any other clues?
Thanks,
Brad KB9BPF
On Thursday, July 28, 2022, 03:19:02 PM CDT, swguest via groups.io <swguest@...> wrote:


Hi Bradley,
? Thanks for the input and interest.
Casey and I have both communed with Mike B., aka "Guru of all things Syntor and Spectra". Have you seen Casey's frequency agile X9000 proof of concept Youtube video? It's a few years old now, I guess it's still up.
Mike spelled out the divider theory details (some typical Moto misdirection and Voodoo...lol) and operational order, and Casey pounded out some Arduino code and made the necessary tie-ins to the divider circutry and behold... a frequency agile X9000...albeit scattered across the bench via some hookup wire and Atmel dev boards...but indeed proof of concept.
? I started with disecting the codeplug structure and revealed some of it's ways and means and have written some .xls based frequency to byte value and checksum calculators and some Arduino w/LCD touchscreen code to manipulate memory locations for the same reason...again, POC.
Life & priorities change so I have not visited the project for some time.

Re: Has anyone fully decoded the X9000 memory mapping?

 

Hi Dennis,
Good to see your still out and about too.
DPL...I just dont recallany details on how to derive it outside of RSS. Nothing near me used DPL so I didnt have any reason to expend gray matter proccessing power to it.

I havent looked at your syntorxgen source code. Do you derive the hex values from a formula or use a lookup table? I remember some SyntorX codeplug layout data on a site..Xbits something? that's gone now. I thinks Mike B. replicated the info on his site.
I think maybe the DPL formula was in that info? I do know the CTCSS hex values are derived via formula.

Copyright statement? Hmmm..dont recall seeing it but I would have just glazed over it like the same as editing a Maxtrac MDF file...lol? As for executable code....sounds like a Scary Moto Urban Legend....lol. There is a checksum though and the RSS will bitch and puke and refuse to write if it's wrong.
There are a number of codeplug/FW/RSS version incompatabilities that must be kept in mind too.

Skip,
?It has a 2816 (2k) or 2864 (8k) mapped into the Hitachi uC's address & data busses.
In this respect the codeplug is a binary file written to the EEprom thru the Hitiachi uC via SB 9600.
Re: Has anyone fully decoded the X9000 memory mapping?

 

It's been a while since I messed with my pile of Syntor X radios as well, but I'm sure interested in watching that YouTube video you mentioned. I did a little searching but wasn't certain I was seeing the video by Casey that you mentioned. Got any other clues?
Thanks,
Brad KB9BPF
On Thursday, July 28, 2022, 03:19:02 PM CDT, swguest via groups.io <swguest@...> wrote:


Hi Bradley,
? Thanks for the input and interest.
Casey and I have both communed with Mike B., aka "Guru of all things Syntor and Spectra". Have you seen Casey's frequency agile X9000 proof of concept Youtube video? It's a few years old now, I guess it's still up.
Mike spelled out the divider theory details (some typical Moto misdirection and Voodoo...lol) and operational order, and Casey pounded out some Arduino code and made the necessary tie-ins to the divider circutry and behold... a frequency agile X9000...albeit scattered across the bench via some hookup wire and Atmel dev boards...but indeed proof of concept.
? I started with disecting the codeplug structure and revealed some of it's ways and means and have written some .xls based frequency to byte value and checksum calculators and some Arduino w/LCD touchscreen code to manipulate memory locations for the same reason...again, POC.
Life & priorities change so I have not visited the project for some time.

Re: Has anyone fully decoded the X9000 memory mapping?

 

Hi Bradley,
? Thanks for the input and interest.
Casey and I have both communed with Mike B., aka "Guru of all things Syntor and Spectra". Have you seen Casey's frequency agile X9000 proof of concept Youtube video? It's a few years old now, I guess it's still up.
Mike spelled out the divider theory details (some typical Moto misdirection and Voodoo...lol) and operational order, and Casey pounded out some Arduino code and made the necessary tie-ins to the divider circutry and behold... a frequency agile X9000...albeit scattered across the bench via some hookup wire and Atmel dev boards...but indeed proof of concept.
? I started with disecting the codeplug structure and revealed some of it's ways and means and have written some .xls based frequency to byte value and checksum calculators and some Arduino w/LCD touchscreen code to manipulate memory locations for the same reason...again, POC.
Life & priorities change so I have not visited the project for some time.
Re: Has anyone fully decoded the X9000 memory mapping?

 

I'll admit that my memory SUCKS these days, but I don't recall the
X9000 having a physical code plug. Wasn't it programmable via a
cable? I never had any X9000 radios myself.

73's Skip WB6YMH

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 12:53 PM Dennis Boone <drb@...> wrote:

> I *think* that included DPL

Pretty sure the DPL coding for the '9000 is the same as the 'X. Formula
for that is in the syntorxgen source.

ISTR hearing that the '9000 code plug has a copyright statement and some
executable code in it somewhere that are necessary for proper operation.

De
Re: Has anyone fully decoded the X9000 memory mapping?

 

I *think* that included DPL
Pretty sure the DPL coding for the '9000 is the same as the 'X. Formula
for that is in the syntorxgen source.

ISTR hearing that the '9000 code plug has a copyright statement and some
executable code in it somewhere that are necessary for proper operation.

De
Re: Has anyone fully decoded the X9000 memory mapping?

 

I assume you guys know about the great web resource on Syntor/X/9000 stuff, onfreq.com...
http://www.onfreq.com/syntorx/syntorx9k/index.html
73
Brad KB9BPF
On Thursday, July 28, 2022, 01:55:55 PM CDT, swguest via groups.io <swguest@...> wrote:


Hey Casey, how's tricks?
I thought you had succumbed to "digital mode fever" like those other digital sheeple...lol...."OH YEAH" [beware of crashing wall] (pop culture refenence)
Last time I talked to you, you were on a mission to go headless on a Spectra (Astro?).? I did see a post on amother site that you got the SB9600 spoof to work. Good to know the theory worked! SB9600 spoofing may be "THE" backdoor into all things that run SB9600, including a revamp of the X9000 head design.
?? Anyway, are you looking for something specific? I have discerned one or two things more about the X9000 codeplug since we kicked that dog, but what and where exactly that info is, may be a challenge to find again.
? Sadly, I'm not q great "documentor" and tend to jump hither and yon cursed with the attention span of a 4 yo. when on a mission...lol
I did come across info to code the RX and TX pl freqs to th required hex data values. I *think* that included DPL, but alas, that was a few hours of sleep and more than a few cold adult beverages ago...lol
I may have written a proof of concept (Arduino) code snippet to do that, regardless I do have the math so it is doable in uC code. I know I did the same for an X9000 codeplug checksum (re)calculator...got to check my .ino archives.....

There are some zero page memory locations I sorted that set max modes, max MPL count, dual drawer byte val, checksum, etc.
I never ventured into plotting accessory interface, signalling or encryption feature settings memory usage.

Good to hear you are still kicking about.
73
s
Re: Status of new Xcat boards

 

If there are more, please add me to the list. I would purchase 3. Today.?

KG5IRU Charles
On Jul 28, 2022, 8:01 AM -0500, G Kopp via groups.io <GAKopp@...>, wrote:

I think I counted 3 recent requests and there are perhaps 4 boards - if there is one more to had please put me on the list. Thanks. George. KB0CE.

Re: Has anyone fully decoded the X9000 memory mapping?

 

Hey Casey, how's tricks?
I thought you had succumbed to "digital mode fever" like those other digital sheeple...lol...."OH YEAH" [beware of crashing wall] (pop culture refenence)
Last time I talked to you, you were on a mission to go headless on a Spectra (Astro?).? I did see a post on amother site that you got the SB9600 spoof to work. Good to know the theory worked! SB9600 spoofing may be "THE" backdoor into all things that run SB9600, including a revamp of the X9000 head design.
?? Anyway, are you looking for something specific? I have discerned one or two things more about the X9000 codeplug since we kicked that dog, but what and where exactly that info is, may be a challenge to find again.
? Sadly, I'm not q great "documentor" and tend to jump hither and yon cursed with the attention span of a 4 yo. when on a mission...lol
I did come across info to code the RX and TX pl freqs to th required hex data values. I *think* that included DPL, but alas, that was a few hours of sleep and more than a few cold adult beverages ago...lol
I may have written a proof of concept (Arduino) code snippet to do that, regardless I do have the math so it is doable in uC code. I know I did the same for an X9000 codeplug checksum (re)calculator...got to check my .ino archives.....

There are some zero page memory locations I sorted that set max modes, max MPL count, dual drawer byte val, checksum, etc.
I never ventured into plotting accessory interface, signalling or encryption feature settings memory usage.

Good to hear you are still kicking about.
73
s
Has anyone fully decoded the X9000 memory mapping?

 

Being the X9000s are still plentiful and I have a few I would be interested in working on a similar type of device for them. I started working on figuring out the memory mapping and another individual sent me some info he figured out but there is still quite a bit left to be figured out. This makes me wonder if anyone has a source for decoding what all the various bits do.?
Re: Status of new Xcat boards

 

I think I counted 3 recent requests and there are perhaps 4 boards - if there is one more to had please put me on the list. Thanks. George. KB0CE.
Re: Status of new Xcat boards

 

Well I did spend a good while looking for my small cache yesterday, but failed.?

That means I either overlooked them or they are in my "shack" which is an equally disastrous black hole.? I'll keep looking.

73's Skip WB6YMH
Re: Status of new Xcat boards

 

I would be interested in one

73,
Kim
K3OCM

On 2022-07-22 15:04, Mike/K5JR wrote:
I sense a bidding war. I’d like to have at least one myself.
tnx
Mike / K5JR
Alpharetta GA
On Jul 22, 2022, at 10:29 AM, Jeff ex kg2bz now N2IA via groups.io
<humveejeff@...> wrote:
?Skip
sounds good thanks. Jeff
On Jul 22, 2022, at 9:13 AM, Skip Hansen <skip@...> wrote:
?Hi Jeff,
As far as a new build nothing has changed.
This weekend I need to find something else in my disaster of a garage
and I'll see if I can't find my stash. I have 4 xcats somewhere in
there! I'm surprised I can even find my car at times. If I can find
my stash I'll put them on ebay and announce them here.
73's Skip WB6YMH

On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 6:07 AM Jeff ex kg2bz now N2IA via groups.io
<humveejeff@...> wrote:
Skip. I know this is a year later but are any boards available ? I’m looking to do a low band syntor x let me know thanks Jeff N2IA
Re: Status of new Xcat boards

 

I sense a bidding war. I’d like to have at least one myself.

tnx
Mike / K5JR
Alpharetta GA

On Jul 22, 2022, at 10:29 AM, Jeff ex kg2bz now N2IA via groups.io <humveejeff@...> wrote:

?Skip
sounds good thanks. Jeff
On Jul 22, 2022, at 9:13 AM, Skip Hansen <skip@...> wrote:

?Hi Jeff,

As far as a new build nothing has changed.

This weekend I need to find something else in my disaster of a garage
and I'll see if I can't find my stash. I have 4 xcats somewhere in
there! I'm surprised I can even find my car at times. If I can find
my stash I'll put them on ebay and announce them here.


73's Skip WB6YMH


On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 6:07 AM Jeff ex kg2bz now N2IA via groups.io
<humveejeff@...> wrote:

Skip. I know this is a year later but are any boards available ? I’m looking to do a low band syntor x let me know thanks Jeff N2IA
Re: Status of new Xcat boards

 

Skip
sounds good thanks. Jeff

On Jul 22, 2022, at 9:13 AM, Skip Hansen <skip@...> wrote:

?Hi Jeff,

As far as a new build nothing has changed.

This weekend I need to find something else in my disaster of a garage
and I'll see if I can't find my stash. I have 4 xcats somewhere in
there! I'm surprised I can even find my car at times. If I can find
my stash I'll put them on ebay and announce them here.


73's Skip WB6YMH


On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 6:07 AM Jeff ex kg2bz now N2IA via groups.io
<humveejeff@...> wrote:

Skip. I know this is a year later but are any boards available ? I’m looking to do a low band syntor x let me know thanks Jeff N2IA
Re: Status of new Xcat boards

 

Hi Jeff,

As far as a new build nothing has changed.

This weekend I need to find something else in my disaster of a garage
and I'll see if I can't find my stash. I have 4 xcats somewhere in
there! I'm surprised I can even find my car at times. If I can find
my stash I'll put them on ebay and announce them here.


73's Skip WB6YMH


On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 6:07 AM Jeff ex kg2bz now N2IA via groups.io
<humveejeff@...> wrote:

Skip. I know this is a year later but are any boards available ? I’m looking to do a low band syntor x let me know thanks Jeff N2IA
Re: Status of new Xcat boards

 

Skip. ?I know this is a year later but are any boards available ? ?I’m looking to do a low band syntor x ? let me know thanks Jeff N2IA
Re: Status of new Xcat boards

 

Hi Tyrell,

As far as I know Lee is still planning on one more batch, but it's
anyone's guess when. I *know* I have some Xcats in my garage, but I
haven't been able to find them. When/if I do I'll put them up on ebay
and announce them here.

I had forgotten about the Piexx product ... If you need something
soon you should probably go for it.

73's Skip WB6YMH

On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 4:49 PM <Tyrell@...> wrote:

I need 3... Is a final batch still coming?

Piexx is selling off the last of their stock, and seem to be down to 2 units of the SyntorX Revival and none of their flash kits... I would really prefer a xcat, especially now that they don't have enough units for my needs.
Re: Status of new Xcat boards

 

I need 3... Is a final batch still coming??
?
Piexx is selling off the last of their stock, and seem to be down to 2 units of the SyntorX Revival and none of their flash kits... I would really prefer a xcat, especially now that they don't have enough units for my needs.
Re: Status of new Xcat boards

 

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Definitely interested in at least a couple here.?


tnx
Mike / W5JR
Alpharetta GA


On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:39, Skip Hansen <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm happily surprised?there is still interest in the Xcats it was a fun and challenging project.

I spoke to Lee yesterday and he's still working on a final batch of boards.? ?This has been in process for quite
some time but he still intends to finish them ASAP.? Lee has had his money tired up in PCBs and components
for this batch for several years now.??

I'll let the list know when the status changes.? I know I have 4 Xcats in my garage somewhere, but I've been
unable to find them.? When I do I'll put them on ebay and announce the announce the auction here.

73's Skip WB6YMH

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