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Re: fldigi psk waveform dropping samples? #fldigi #fldigi-parameters

 
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Thanks Rich.? I understand that what I am seeing is what fldigi intends to send, and that's why I am asking about this -- I am trying to figure out if what fldigi intends to send has more spectral artifacts than desired before it even gets to the radio.? ?I indicated that it is not connected a radio to rule out the possibility that there being some sort of sample rate incompatibility with the virtual audio connection.? And when I say "carrier", I mean center frequency, understanding that no carrier is present.? The picture of the signal scope is just transmit with no on data going out, while the spectrums are showing sending data.


Re: fldigi psk waveform dropping samples? #fldigi #fldigi-parameters

 

The "dropped samples" even occur for multiples of 31.25 Hz.? Here's 500 Hz:
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Re: fldigi psk waveform dropping samples? #fldigi #fldigi-parameters

 

Hi Curt,
A couple of comments come to mind. Bear in mind, these are based on my understanding of fldigi...I'm not a dev.

1.
The picture below is with no transceiver connected -- only the output of fldigi affecting the waterfall:
...but that is always the case. fldigi can't sample what the radio is sending for several reasons. So the fldigi TX audio stream is limited to just what fldigi ~intends~ to send. In fact, fldigi can't tell what the CODEC is sending to the next device downstream. It might be some piece of hardware, such as digirig, and it might be going directly to a radio. fldigi doesn't know. So for output, what you see on the waterfall is what fldigi has composed to send.

2. What psk? Is this just a Tune tone ? Remember...this is what is sent to the radio, so there is no carrier in play here.

3.
harmonics (low level though, <-60dbc ) far away from the carrier in the waterfall when I transmit.
It looks like you are showing us the SIG display. You will see the harmonics on the FFT display. Remember, fldigi composes the waveforms digitally. Someone else will have to ring in with the details. But IRL, the audio stream consists of fldigi composing a waveform at some freq (here I mean the sampling freq, not the waterfall freq), then the CODEC in play (you mention a CODEC with "native" sampling rates; I use 48000)...those 2 will create a complex wave with an approximation of the envelope you want for the chosen modem...then any intermediate devices, and finally the radio (which I understand is not in play here).

73 Rich


Re: fldigi psk waveform dropping samples? #fldigi #fldigi-parameters

 

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Sample rate conversion artifact.? Try setting the center frequency of the bpsk31 signal to 500.



David

On 9/12/24 13:34, Curt Karnstedt wrote:

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Years ago I used fldigi under linux but recently wanted to try it under windows.? I was not expecting harmonics (low level though, <-60dbc ) far away from the carrier in the waterfall when I transmit.? ?The picture below is with no transceiver connected -- only the output of fldigi affecting the waterfall:
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When I look at the waveform, I notice a regular notch in the envelope (see below).? ?Has anybody else seen this?? I have the soundcard sample rates set to "native".
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Thanks,
Curt


fldigi psk waveform dropping samples? #fldigi #fldigi-parameters

 

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Years ago I used fldigi under linux but recently wanted to try it under windows.? I was not expecting harmonics (low level though, <-60dbc ) far away from the carrier in the waterfall when I transmit.? ?The picture below is with no transceiver connected -- only the output of fldigi affecting the waterfall:
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When I look at the waveform, I notice a regular notch in the envelope (see below).? ?Has anybody else seen this?? I have the soundcard sample rates set to "native".
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Thanks,
Curt


Re: Rec ID

Cliff
 

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Some stations do if they really are looking for contacts. There are settings in fldigi to tell it if you want to jump to the station freq or just be notified of if and what the mode is.

73,
Cliff, AE5ZA



On Sep 10, 2024, at 05:29, Ridge via <kb2hwl@...> wrote:

Does everyone use the Rec Id tab.
my unit does not move when listen to stations, so I can¡¯t copy. Not good at knowing the tones yet.
thank you?


Rec ID

 

Does everyone use the Rec Id tab.
my unit does not move when listen to stations, so I can¡¯t copy. Not good at knowing the tones yet.
thank you?


Re: FLRIG OK, FLDIGI quit working?

Cliff
 

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Hmmm... To delete all the files just delete the fldigi.files directory. Fldigi does not use any files outside that directory unless you have specifically told it to do so and that would be configured by settings within the fldigi.files directory.

73,
Cliff, AE5ZA



On Sep 9, 2024, at 15:15, Jay W6CJ via <lastradioman@...> wrote:

Cliff,
Thanks.? Tried those and the mouse cursor/screen froze.
I'd like to delete all of FLDIGI files (wherever they may be in Win-11), and start with a clean install.
73
Jay

On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 12:17?PM Cliff <ae5zaham_at_gmail.com_lastradioman@...> wrote:
DuckDuckGo?did not detect any?trackers.?
Unable to verify sender identity
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Jay,

Could be a corrupted fldigi config file.

You can test for that by going to c:\Users\<loginname>\fldigi.files and rename the flidigi.prefs file then try to start fldigi. If that works then you're good to go. If not then rename the fldigi_def.xml file in the same directory. That will cause you to need to setup fldigi from scratch. Just do a basic minimal setup then close fldigi and restart it. If it's ok then finish reconfiguring fldigi. You'll still have macros, logs, etc from the old config. It that doesn't solve the issue then go back and delete the newly created fldigi_def.xml file and rename the old one back to fldigi_def.xml to restore the old config.

73,
Cliff, AE5ZA



On Sep 9, 2024, at 11:15, Jay W6CJ via?groups.io?<lastradioman@...> wrote:

Hi Group,

Had something unusual happen:
I had FLRIG-FLDIGI working just fine with an IC-7300.
Yesterday, FLRIG seemed OK, but FLDIGI pops up for two seconds and then disappears.??

Any suggestions?

Thanks&73,
Jay
W6CJ



Re: FLRIG OK, FLDIGI quit working?

 

Cliff,
Thanks.? Tried those and the mouse cursor/screen froze.
I'd like to delete all of FLDIGI files (wherever they may be in Win-11), and start with a clean install.
73
Jay

On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 12:17?PM Cliff <ae5zaham_at_gmail.com_lastradioman@...> wrote:
Jay, Could be a corrupted fldigi config file. You can test for that by going to c:\Users\\fldigi.files and rename the flidigi.prefs file then try to start fldigi. If that works then you're
DuckDuckGo did not detect any?trackers.
Unable to verify sender identity
Jay,

Could be a corrupted fldigi config file.

You can test for that by going to c:\Users\<loginname>\fldigi.files and rename the flidigi.prefs file then try to start fldigi. If that works then you're good to go. If not then rename the fldigi_def.xml file in the same directory. That will cause you to need to setup fldigi from scratch. Just do a basic minimal setup then close fldigi and restart it. If it's ok then finish reconfiguring fldigi. You'll still have macros, logs, etc from the old config. It that doesn't solve the issue then go back and delete the newly created fldigi_def.xml file and rename the old one back to fldigi_def.xml to restore the old config.

73,
Cliff, AE5ZA



On Sep 9, 2024, at 11:15, Jay W6CJ via groups.io <lastradioman@...> wrote:

Hi Group,

Had something unusual happen:
I had FLRIG-FLDIGI working just fine with an IC-7300.
Yesterday, FLRIG seemed OK, but FLDIGI pops up for two seconds and then disappears.??

Any suggestions?

Thanks&73,
Jay
W6CJ


Re: FLRIG OK, FLDIGI quit working?

Cliff
 

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Jay,

Could be a corrupted fldigi config file.

You can test for that by going to c:\Users\<loginname>\fldigi.files and rename the flidigi.prefs file then try to start fldigi. If that works then you're good to go. If not then rename the fldigi_def.xml file in the same directory. That will cause you to need to setup fldigi from scratch. Just do a basic minimal setup then close fldigi and restart it. If it's ok then finish reconfiguring fldigi. You'll still have macros, logs, etc from the old config. It that doesn't solve the issue then go back and delete the newly created fldigi_def.xml file and rename the old one back to fldigi_def.xml to restore the old config.

73,
Cliff, AE5ZA



On Sep 9, 2024, at 11:15, Jay W6CJ via <lastradioman@...> wrote:

Hi Group,

Had something unusual happen:
I had FLRIG-FLDIGI working just fine with an IC-7300.
Yesterday, FLRIG seemed OK, but FLDIGI pops up for two seconds and then disappears.??

Any suggestions?

Thanks&73,
Jay
W6CJ


Re: FLRIG OK, FLDIGI quit working?

 

is it possible that fldigi never shut down properly, and your new start is causing an issue??? ?check task manager

Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE


On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 12:15?PM Jay W6CJ via <lastradioman=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Group,

Had something unusual happen:
I had FLRIG-FLDIGI working just fine with an IC-7300.
Yesterday, FLRIG seemed OK, but FLDIGI pops up for two seconds and then disappears.??

Any suggestions?

Thanks&73,
Jay
W6CJ


FLRIG OK, FLDIGI quit working?

 

Hi Group,

Had something unusual happen:
I had FLRIG-FLDIGI working just fine with an IC-7300.
Yesterday, FLRIG seemed OK, but FLDIGI pops up for two seconds and then disappears.??

Any suggestions?

Thanks&73,
Jay
W6CJ


FLRIG executes, FLDIGI drops out?

 


Hi Group,
I had FLRIG/FLDIGI up and running until this afternoon:
Now, when I start FLRIG, my FLDIGI screen pops up for a second and then goes away.? Appreciate any suggestions.

73
Jay
W6CJ


Fldigi 4.2.05 Fails to run on Win 7?

 

I am attempting to run the latest version of Fldigi 4.2.05 under Win 7. It seems to load okay, but at startup I get the error:
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Assertion Failed! Program ...
Fldigi.exe ? src/hostapi/wdmks/pa_win_wdmks.c, ?Line 1061
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The decode works fine, but it will not transmit. The application looks like it is sending sound, but no sound is going out, even though the sound-card is set properly. This works fine with Fldigi 4.1.11 and the same configuration settings.
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Is there any resolution besides using a later version of windows or Linux instead?
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Thanks, Corky


Re: Receive settings?

 

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Reduce the monitored transmit signal level.? This is actual just an FFT transformation of the transmit audio signal.

David

On 9/7/24 15:46, Jay W6CJ via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Mike-
Moving the left control (UPPER SIGNAL LEVEL) to -51 shows dark blue background and received signals in yellow.? ?(SIGNAL RANGE) was at 60.??
My transmit signal with these settings is red with yellow background....too high.
73
Jay
W6CJ


Re: Receive settings?

 

Thanks Mike-
Moving the left control (UPPER SIGNAL LEVEL) to -51 shows dark blue background and received signals in yellow.? ?(SIGNAL RANGE) was at 60.??
My transmit signal with these settings is red with yellow background....too high.
73
Jay
W6CJ


Re: Receive settings?

Mike Black
 

Bottom left of FLDigi when the button says "WF" there are two controls for the waterfall view.
You are correct that you should not need to change anything on the rig.

Adjust the two controls up/down to see the effect.

Normally you would decrease the left (upper level) until you see a blue background -- then increase the right (signal range) until you see the signal the way you like.

Mike W9MDB




On Saturday, September 7, 2024 at 02:20:04 PM CDT, Jay W6CJ via groups.io <lastradioman@...> wrote:


Hi Group,

I have JS8CALL working fine along with my IC-7300, and should not have to change the IC-7300 settings.

FLRIG/FLDIGI, another story:??
I am able to control frequencies and modes in the 7300, as well as transmit and see transmit audio on the waterfall.? ?But on receive, the waterfall is black.? I don't think it is copying stations.? Without touching my IC-7300 settings, how do I set audio level in FLDIGI or set the waterfall?

Thanks & 73
Jay
W6CJ


Receive settings?

 

Hi Group,

I have JS8CALL working fine along with my IC-7300, and should not have to change the IC-7300 settings.

FLRIG/FLDIGI, another story:??
I am able to control frequencies and modes in the 7300, as well as transmit and see transmit audio on the waterfall.? ?But on receive, the waterfall is black.? I don't think it is copying stations.? Without touching my IC-7300 settings, how do I set audio level in FLDIGI or set the waterfall?

Thanks & 73
Jay
W6CJ


Re: FT710 Com port

 

Use the driver on the Yaesu web site for the FT710.?
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FT-710 Firmware Update Information (2/29/24)
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?FT-710 USB Driver Virtual COM Port Driver (Windows 11/10)?
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Dave.? WA7DH?


FT710 Com port

 

Which yaesu download for the Ft 710 for windows 10 do u use??
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confused i'm new at this.?