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William Cunningham
 

Greetings,

I have dumped 6 quarts of oil into the F head engine in my 57 FC 150 and
it still is not registering on the dip stick.
The service manual said that the capacity is 4 qt. (with filter change).
there is no visible oil leak on the engine. Some oil is leaking from the
air filter. No oil in the coolant. No smoke.
Could I have some sort of high capacity oil pan?
A short dip stick (easy there! we don't know each other that well yet
;-))
Should I just keep pouring oil in until it shows on the stick?

I have run the engine for a total of 5 minutes in 30 second sessions.
Can anyone recommend some sources for fuelpump/vacume pump rebuild or
replacement as well as electrical wiper conversions for FC 150's?

Willy
57? FC 150


 

In a message dated 10/27/98 3:21:03 PM Central Standard Time, grover@...
writes:

<< Did you put the oil down the dipstick tube or into the vent on the rocker
cover? It shouldn't matter, since the oil from the rockers drains down to
the pan. If you put it in the rocker cover, I suppose it is possible it
didn't get down to the pan, but I've never seen that happen and have a hard
time imagining what could cause it. All four drain holes would have to be
plugged. Maybe the wrong head gasket? >>

I have seen oil return holes plugged to the point they would not allow oil to
return without a positive pressure applied. This caused the valve cover
gaskets to leak but they had apparently run the engine for quite some time.
This was on a Ford 289 V8. There was so much build up of carbon that when we
took off the valve cover you could not see the rocker arms. They were covered
to the point that it looked like the valve cover was still on. I don't know
if that's what your problem is but I sure hope not.

Rick S


Richard Grover
 

In the F4-134 in my pickup, the dip stick virtually touches the bottom of
the pan. If there is oil in the pan, I can see it on the dipstick. When I
pull the oil pan, the dipstick is sticking down below the bottom of the
block about 6" or however deep the pan is. I think I may put a little over 4
quarts in mine, but I can see the oil on the dipstick after a quart. The
level rises about 1/2" with each quart.

Either your pan is different, or your dipstick is different.

Did you put the oil down the dipstick tube or into the vent on the rocker
cover? It shouldn't matter, since the oil from the rockers drains down to
the pan. If you put it in the rocker cover, I suppose it is possible it
didn't get down to the pan, but I've never seen that happen and have a hard
time imagining what could cause it. All four drain holes would have to be
plugged. Maybe the wrong head gasket?

The oil in the airfilter is separate, not part of the engine oil.

Rick G.
www.public.asu.edu/~grover/willys

PS. Sometimes really clean oil is hard to see on the dipstick, like after
using flushing oil. It takes a few hours of running to blacken the oil.

-----Original Message-----
From: William Cunningham [mailto:slypigs@...]
Sent: Monday, October 26, 1998 2:26 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: [WT] oil capacity


From: William Cunningham <slypigs@...>

Greetings,

I have dumped 6 quarts of oil into the F head engine in my 57
FC 150 and
it still is not registering on the dip stick.
The service manual said that the capacity is 4 qt. (with
filter change).
there is no visible oil leak on the engine. Some oil is
leaking from the
air filter. No oil in the coolant. No smoke.
Could I have some sort of high capacity oil pan?
A short dip stick (easy there! we don't know each other that well yet
;-))
Should I just keep pouring oil in until it shows on the stick?

I have run the engine for a total of 5 minutes in 30 second sessions.
Can anyone recommend some sources for fuelpump/vacume pump rebuild or
replacement as well as electrical wiper conversions for FC 150's?

Willy
57? FC 150


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In a message dated 10/27/98 6:44:16 PM Central Standard Time,
slypigs@... writes:

<< I grabed the stick out of the non-running (yet) FC 150 and its about 3 or
4 qts.
longer, what would that be in inches? <g>. With the new dip stick it's over
full,
which it should be given that I put 6 qts in 4+ system. >>

Make sure you remove the extra oil. It can cause you problems.

Rick S


William Cunningham
 

Thanks for all the suggestions! would you believe that it had the wrong dipstick!

I grabed the stick out of the non-running (yet) FC 150 and its about 3 or 4 qts.
longer, what would that be in inches? <g>. With the new dip stick it's over full,
which it should be given that I put 6 qts in 4+ system.

I am replacing the fuel pump (combo fuel/vacume) with a new fuel only pump
because the diaphram is shot on the old pump. Everyone tells me the pump is
rebuildable BUT the diaphrame is no longer available. Is this true?
Willy

Rick48CJ2A@... wrote:

From: Rick48CJ2A@...

In a message dated 10/27/98 3:21:03 PM Central Standard Time, grover@...
writes:

<< Did you put the oil down the dipstick tube or into the vent on the rocker
cover? It shouldn't matter, since the oil from the rockers drains down to
the pan. If you put it in the rocker cover, I suppose it is possible it
didn't get down to the pan, but I've never seen that happen and have a hard
time imagining what could cause it. All four drain holes would have to be
plugged. Maybe the wrong head gasket? >>

I have seen oil return holes plugged to the point they would not allow oil to
return without a positive pressure applied. This caused the valve cover
gaskets to leak but they had apparently run the engine for quite some time.
This was on a Ford 289 V8. There was so much build up of carbon that when we
took off the valve cover you could not see the rocker arms. They were covered
to the point that it looked like the valve cover was still on. I don't know
if that's what your problem is but I sure hope not.

Rick S

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William Cunningham
 

Roger that!
My Scout is down a quart so a transfusion is in order.
Willy

Rick48CJ2A@... wrote:

From: Rick48CJ2A@...

In a message dated 10/27/98 6:44:16 PM Central Standard Time,
slypigs@... writes:

<< I grabed the stick out of the non-running (yet) FC 150 and its about 3 or
4 qts.
longer, what would that be in inches? <g>. With the new dip stick it's over
full,
which it should be given that I put 6 qts in 4+ system. >>

Make sure you remove the extra oil. It can cause you problems.

Rick S

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William Cunningham
 

Richard,
Yours was the winning clue. I pulled the dipstick and held it next to the
engine, It did not extend down below the block so I swaped it for the longer
one in the other FC.
Thanks'
Willy

Richard Grover wrote:

From: Richard Grover <grover@...>

In the F4-134 in my pickup, the dip stick virtually touches the bottom of
the pan. If there is oil in the pan, I can see it on the dipstick. When I
pull the oil pan, the dipstick is sticking down below the bottom of the
block about 6" or however deep the pan is. I think I may put a little over 4
quarts in mine, but I can see the oil on the dipstick after a quart. The
level rises about 1/2" with each quart.

Either your pan is different, or your dipstick is different.

Did you put the oil down the dipstick tube or into the vent on the rocker
cover? It shouldn't matter, since the oil from the rockers drains down to
the pan. If you put it in the rocker cover, I suppose it is possible it
didn't get down to the pan, but I've never seen that happen and have a hard
time imagining what could cause it. All four drain holes would have to be
plugged. Maybe the wrong head gasket?

The oil in the airfilter is separate, not part of the engine oil.

Rick G.
www.public.asu.edu/~grover/willys

PS. Sometimes really clean oil is hard to see on the dipstick, like after
using flushing oil. It takes a few hours of running to blacken the oil.

-----Original Message-----
From: William Cunningham [mailto:slypigs@...]
Sent: Monday, October 26, 1998 2:26 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: [WT] oil capacity


From: William Cunningham <slypigs@...>

Greetings,

I have dumped 6 quarts of oil into the F head engine in my 57
FC 150 and
it still is not registering on the dip stick.
The service manual said that the capacity is 4 qt. (with
filter change).
there is no visible oil leak on the engine. Some oil is
leaking from the
air filter. No oil in the coolant. No smoke.
Could I have some sort of high capacity oil pan?
A short dip stick (easy there! we don't know each other that well yet
;-))
Should I just keep pouring oil in until it shows on the stick?

I have run the engine for a total of 5 minutes in 30 second sessions.
Can anyone recommend some sources for fuelpump/vacume pump rebuild or
replacement as well as electrical wiper conversions for FC 150's?

Willy
57? FC 150


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