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J ? -Rick In Iowa with a ’47 CJ2A almost completely original stock condition.? But I have a small turbo charger up on the shelf that I hear calling to me from time to time….. ? ? I was going to change over to electronic ignition, but then I heard it was pointless! ;)
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On Jan. 31, 2022 3:46 p.m., "Pruit Ginsberg via groups.io" < pruitg@...> wrote: Soundslikeit is pretty ice, but getting that trans in required SURGERY. Pruit ? On Jan 31, 2022, at 11:53 AM, Jones, Todd <tej2@...> wrote: ? This is a fun topic.? I agree some mods are very reasonable, safety and all is paramount!!!! Even though my wagon looks very much original.? Dash looks original, but fresh paint, axles have the 5x5.5 tires at the original width, nice original trim, Original spit windshied and sliding center windows, original push button door latches, ect.,.,? ?It does have a 1989 Corvette engine, NV4500 5 speed, Dana 300 twin sticks transmission, Dana 44 axles, Heim joint rock crawler steering arms, power steering and power brakes, Rancho 9000 adjustable shocks, disc front brake and drum back brakes, old style looking retrosounds radio with Bluetooth technology, old original heater knobs with new Customs cool heater / AC system ,( even though I still have to hook up the hoses from the front, lol), etc. .? ?. . .?? It is a total blast to drive.? My wife still thinks it is too noisy though. I bought this ready to go into the crusher and am glad it is driveable. As always, I do and always have appreciated the input from this group.
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On Jan. 31, 2022 3:46 p.m., "Pruit Ginsberg via groups.io" <pruitg@...> wrote: Soundslikeit is pretty ice, but getting that trans in required SURGERY. Pruit On Jan 31, 2022, at 11:53 AM, Jones, Todd < tej2@...> wrote:
Classification:?Public This is a fun topic.? I agree some mods are very reasonable, safety and all is paramount!!!! ? Even though my wagon looks very much original.? Dash looks original, but fresh paint, axles have the 5x5.5 tires at the original width, nice original trim, Original spit windshied and sliding center windows, original push button door latches, ect.,.,? ?It does have a 1989 Corvette engine, NV4500 5 speed, Dana 300 twin sticks transmission, Dana 44 axles, Heim joint rock crawler steering arms, power steering and power brakes, Rancho 9000 adjustable shocks, disc front brake and drum back brakes, old style looking retrosounds radio with Bluetooth technology, old original heater knobs with new Customs cool heater / AC system ,( even though I still have to hook up the hoses from the front, lol), etc. .? ?. . .?? It is a total blast to drive.? My wife still thinks it is too noisy though. ? I bought this ready to go into the crusher and am glad it is driveable. ? As always, I do and always have appreciated the input from this group. ? Regards ? Todd Jones 1950 Willys, Cream Soda ?
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On Jan 31, 2022, at 11:53 AM, Jones, Todd < tej2@...> wrote:
Classification:?Public This is a fun topic.? I agree some mods are very reasonable, safety and all is paramount!!!! ? Even though my wagon looks very much original.? Dash looks original, but fresh paint, axles have the 5x5.5 tires at the original width, nice original trim, Original spit windshied and sliding center windows, original push button door latches, ect.,.,? ?It does have a 1989 Corvette engine, NV4500 5 speed, Dana 300 twin sticks transmission, Dana 44 axles, Heim joint rock crawler steering arms, power steering and power brakes, Rancho 9000 adjustable shocks, disc front brake and drum back brakes, old style looking retrosounds radio with Bluetooth technology, old original heater knobs with new Customs cool heater / AC system ,( even though I still have to hook up the hoses from the front, lol), etc. .? ?. . .?? It is a total blast to drive.? My wife still thinks it is too noisy though. ? I bought this ready to go into the crusher and am glad it is driveable. ? As always, I do and always have appreciated the input from this group. ? Regards ? Todd Jones 1950 Willys, Cream Soda ?
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Good for you! Always build it to suit yourself no somebody else! Sounds like a nice ride! 
On Monday, January 31, 2022, 01:53:16 PM EST, Jones, Todd <tej2@...> wrote:
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This is a fun topic.? I agree some mods are very reasonable, safety and all is paramount!!!!
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Even though my wagon looks very much original.? Dash looks original, but fresh paint, axles have the 5x5.5 tires at the original width, nice original trim, Original spit windshied and sliding center windows, original push button door latches,
ect.,.,? ?It does have a 1989 Corvette engine, NV4500 5 speed, Dana 300 twin sticks transmission, Dana 44 axles, Heim joint rock crawler steering arms, power steering and power brakes, Rancho 9000 adjustable shocks, disc front brake and drum back brakes, old
style looking retrosounds radio with Bluetooth technology, old original heater knobs with new Customs cool heater / AC system ,( even though I still have to hook up the hoses from the front, lol), etc. .? ?. . .?? It is a total blast to drive.? My wife still
thinks it is too noisy though.
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I bought this ready to go into the crusher and am glad it is driveable.
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As always, I do and always have appreciated the input from this group.
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Regards
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1950 Willys, Cream Soda
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This is a fun topic.? I agree some mods are very reasonable, safety and all is paramount!!!!
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Even though my wagon looks very much original.? Dash looks original, but fresh paint, axles have the 5x5.5 tires at the original width, nice original trim, Original spit windshied and sliding center windows, original push button door latches,
ect.,.,? ?It does have a 1989 Corvette engine, NV4500 5 speed, Dana 300 twin sticks transmission, Dana 44 axles, Heim joint rock crawler steering arms, power steering and power brakes, Rancho 9000 adjustable shocks, disc front brake and drum back brakes, old
style looking retrosounds radio with Bluetooth technology, old original heater knobs with new Customs cool heater / AC system ,( even though I still have to hook up the hoses from the front, lol), etc. .? ?. . .?? It is a total blast to drive.? My wife still
thinks it is too noisy though.
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I bought this ready to go into the crusher and am glad it is driveable.
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As always, I do and always have appreciated the input from this group.
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Regards
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Skip,
I also downgraded to a 2 piece windshield in our wagon . ?The 1 piece replacement was a bit too dear for my pocket book at the time. ?Many owners think the 2 piece looks better... once again a matter of taste.
PuN
On 2022-01-28, at 6:13 AM, Skip Owens via groups.io wrote: Funny you should mention that Pavel. About 20 years ago I drove a friends Willys wagon that had the 4.3 V6 & AT from a Chevy Astro van. It was 2WD and the motor was carbureted, but in my opinion it was an awesome match for the Willys as no firewall modification was needed. FF 10 years and I bumped into a totaled 2000 Chevy Blazer with the fuel injected 4.3, AT, 4WD. It took a while but the engine & AT were eventually rebuilt and now reside in a crate in the barn. Not for sale, but waiting for the next one as the new super hurricane 226 in my pickup runs too good to even consider swapping out.? ??
One of the many foibles of my youth that still haunts me to this day was going separate ways with my '66 Commando with the 225 V6.? Alas, I lived in Fairbanks AK, had limited funds, it had no heater & I was dating a girl that thought heat more important than me? 
And since we are talking about mods, my '61 also has the split windshield instead of the original 1 piece. At the time I restored it the sole manufacturer of the one piece curved windshield was in Brazil. The US and Brazil were bickering over some very important yet now forgotten issue and the import of Brazilian goods was temporarily interrupted. So I downgraded to the 2-piece to put the truck back on the road.??
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Funny you should mention that Pavel. About 20 years ago I drove a friends Willys wagon that had the 4.3 V6 & AT from a Chevy Astro van. It was 2WD and the motor was carbureted, but in my opinion it was an awesome match for the Willys as no firewall modification was needed. FF 10 years and I bumped into a totaled 2000 Chevy Blazer with the fuel injected 4.3, AT, 4WD. It took a while but the engine & AT were eventually rebuilt and now reside in a crate in the barn. Not for sale, but waiting for the next one as the new super hurricane 226 in my pickup runs too good to even consider swapping out.? ??
One of the many foibles of my youth that still haunts me to this day was going separate ways with my '66 Commando with the 225 V6.? Alas, I lived in Fairbanks AK, had limited funds, it had no heater & I was dating a girl that thought heat more important than me?
And since we are talking about mods, my '61 also has the split windshield instead of the original 1 piece. At the time I restored it the sole manufacturer of the one piece curved windshield was in Brazil. The US and Brazil were bickering over some very important yet now forgotten issue and the import of Brazilian goods was temporarily interrupted. So I downgraded to the 2-piece to put the truck back on the road.??
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Agreed.? Mine was a restromod. Sold before I finished it. I still
see he around town. Since, my '72 Chevelle sucked a piston.?
Hmmmm, seems like a build 454 is in the works. I have no issues
with simple mods. I have no issue with radical mods.? Just do them
right
SF
On 1/27/2022 2:10 PM, John Barrett via
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I'm not getting lost but I'm not sure about some of my stuff. From
August of 1986 until October of 2019 I knew where everything was
in my 600 sq ft shop. Now I have more than 1500 sq ft of shop and
I'm still wandering around wondering where I put certain tools.
The 2 propane furnaces sure make working out there comfortable
during the cold Washington winter. Plus the upstairs reloading
room has a flat screen, blu-ray, coffee maker and 1/2 bath.
Retirement is great. I highly recommend it. ;-)
John
'56 Pickup TKER
TOY
Graham, Wash
On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 12:28 PM, Pruit Ginsberg via
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More like you, John.
However, they could have
picked a junker.
Hope you are doing well and
are not lost roaming around in that shop you have.
Pruit
On Jan 27, 2022, at
12:21 PM, John Barrett via
< tkertoy@...>
wrote:
Since I
stirred the pot between the modifiers and
restorers I should add that as a modifier I
cringed at seeing the truck cut into 4 pieces
but also seeing the quality of work that shop
does I'm anxious to see how it turns out.
Their intent is to make it slightly longer and
wider for driver comfort but still look like a
Willys truck. I just enjoy seeing quality work
done by skilled craftsmen whether or not it's
something I would do.
John
'56 Pickup TKER TOY
Graham, Wash
On Thu, Jan 27,
2022 at 10:06 AM, willyswagon230
This is
the point, Skip... what is reasonable in
today's world.? When I look at my own
physical plant, it has been modified with
new lenses, considerable tooth
remediation, removal of appendix, tonsils
and some skin from the end of a
protuberance.? Then there's the addition
of various chemicals (maintainers &
enhancers?) over the years and a little
education along the way.? If truth be
told, I'm also a "restomod" (have I been
improved?) along with our '65 Willys
wagon.? Adding disc brakes, 3 point seat
belts etc. is a worthwhile improvement if
a Willys is to be driven, is it not?? This
discussion has been made many times, but
surely it comes down to what the owner
wants - these are pieces of utility
machinery after all, not Duesenbergs,
Bugattis, Tatras or Tuckers.
Cheers, Pavel up North.
ps: is thinking about updating to an
injected V6 with automatic trans going too
far?? What about updating the Willys to a
BEV? Are there limits and if so, are they
changing?
On 2022-01-27, at 8:48 AM, Skip Owens
wrote:
> I may be the odd man out here, but I
get the warm & fuzzies any time I see
a Willys flat fender on the road, original
or modified. Having said that, my 61
pickup is original, but then again maybe
not because It does have an aftermarket
overdrive, electric wiper motor, two tank
master cylinder reservoir, LED tail lights
& headlights, a more comfortable bench
seat, seatbelts …. ?
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On 1/27/2022 12:21 PM, John Barrett via
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Since I stirred the pot between the modifiers and restorers I
should add that as a modifier I cringed at seeing the truck cut
into 4 pieces but also seeing the quality of work that shop does
I'm anxious to see how it turns out. Their intent is to make it
slightly longer and wider for driver comfort but still look like a
Willys truck. I just enjoy seeing quality work done by skilled
craftsmen whether or not it's something I would do.
John
'56 Pickup TKER
TOY
Graham, Wash
On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:06 AM, willyswagon230
This is the point, Skip...
what is reasonable in today's world.? When I look at my own
physical plant, it has been modified with new lenses,
considerable tooth remediation, removal of appendix, tonsils
and some skin from the end of a protuberance.? Then there's
the addition of various chemicals (maintainers &
enhancers?) over the years and a little education along the
way.? If truth be told, I'm also a "restomod" (have I been
improved?) along with our '65 Willys wagon.? Adding disc
brakes, 3 point seat belts etc. is a worthwhile improvement
if a Willys is to be driven, is it not?? This discussion has
been made many times, but surely it comes down to what the
owner wants - these are pieces of utility machinery after
all, not Duesenbergs, Bugattis, Tatras or Tuckers.
Cheers, Pavel up North.
ps: is thinking about updating to an injected V6 with
automatic trans going too far?? What about updating the
Willys to a BEV? Are there limits and if so, are they
changing?
On 2022-01-27, at 8:48 AM, Skip Owens wrote:
> I may be the odd man out here, but I get the warm &
fuzzies any time I see a Willys flat fender on the road,
original or modified. Having said that, my 61 pickup is
original, but then again maybe not because It does have an
aftermarket overdrive, electric wiper motor, two tank master
cylinder reservoir, LED tail lights & headlights, a more
comfortable bench seat, seatbelts …. ?
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> Skip
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On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 8:41 PM, m w <hp9@...> wrote: Nice pics. This is mine  On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 8:32 PM, Benjamin Deasis <bens33ford@...> wrote: Yeah, let’s go! Just like the old days with Landon! The modifying monkeys versus the stock purists. Come on people, let’s feed these flames!   On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:22 PM, bruce parks <b.w.parks@...> wrote:
? If one is so goddamned talented that they can cut up a classic, why can't they just make their own POS from scratch?? I will tell you why...because they are wreckers, not builders.? Makes me nauseous. ?? Awww come on. Tell me what you really think about it.
John '56 Pickup TKER TOY Graham, Wash. On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 7:05 AM, Pruit Ginsberg via Sorry John, what a FU. Pruit > On Jan 23, 2022, at 8:12 PM, John Barrett via <tkertoy= [email protected]> wrote: > > Did any of you see the latest episode of Texas Metal. They took a beautifully restored 1960 pickup from North Dakota and stripped it to bare metal then cut the cab into 4 pieces. The plan is to widen and lengthen it, put it on a custom chassis and drop in a Hellcat engine. Can't wait to see how it turns out. Just remember, anyone can restore a vehicle. It takes balls to cut up a classic. :-) > > > John > > '56 Pickup TKER TOY > > Graham, Wash. > > > > > >
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On Jan 27, 2022, at 2:10 PM, John Barrett via < tkertoy@...> wrote:
I'm not getting lost but I'm not sure about some of my stuff. From August of 1986 until October of 2019 I knew where everything was in my 600 sq ft shop. Now I have more than 1500 sq ft of shop and I'm still wandering around wondering where I put certain tools. The 2 propane furnaces sure make working out there comfortable during the cold Washington winter. Plus the upstairs reloading room has a flat screen, blu-ray, coffee maker and 1/2 bath. Retirement is great. I highly recommend it. ;-)
John '56 Pickup TKER TOY Graham, Wash On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 12:28 PM, Pruit Ginsberg via? More like you, John. However, they could have picked a junker. Hope you are doing well and are not lost roaming around in that shop you have. Pruit On Jan 27, 2022, at 12:21 PM, John Barrett via ??< tkertoy@...> wrote:
Since I stirred the pot between the modifiers and restorers I should add that as a modifier I cringed at seeing the truck cut into 4 pieces but also seeing the quality of work that shop does I'm anxious to see how it turns out. Their intent is to make it slightly longer and wider for driver comfort but still look like a Willys truck. I just enjoy seeing quality work done by skilled craftsmen whether or not it's something I would do.
John '56 Pickup TKER TOY Graham, Wash On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:06 AM, willyswagon230 This is the point, Skip... what is reasonable in today's world.? When I look at my own physical plant, it has been modified with new lenses, considerable tooth remediation, removal of appendix, tonsils and some skin from the end of a protuberance.? Then there's the addition of various chemicals (maintainers & enhancers?) over the years and a little education along the way.? If truth be told, I'm also a "restomod" (have I been improved?) along with our '65 Willys wagon.? Adding disc brakes, 3 point seat belts etc. is a worthwhile improvement if a Willys is to be driven, is it not?? This discussion has been made many times, but surely it comes down to what the owner wants - these are pieces of utility machinery after all, not Duesenbergs, Bugattis, Tatras or Tuckers.
Cheers, Pavel up North.
ps: is thinking about updating to an injected V6 with automatic trans going too far?? What about updating the Willys to a BEV? Are there limits and if so, are they changing?
On 2022-01-27, at 8:48 AM, Skip Owens wrote:
> I may be the odd man out here, but I get the warm & fuzzies any time I see a Willys flat fender on the road, original or modified. Having said that, my 61 pickup is original, but then again maybe not because It does have an aftermarket overdrive, electric wiper motor, two tank master cylinder reservoir, LED tail lights & headlights, a more comfortable bench seat, seatbelts …. ?
>?
> Skip
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that picture in the calendar is just so cool.? i have a '62 wagon which is pretty much original.? added seat belts for when my grands are on board and have a conversion for electronic ignition that hasn't been installed yet.? i perk up anytime i see one, stock or modified.? might be noted, in my neck of the woods (southern new jersey) seeing one is a pretty rare thing.
On Thursday, January 27, 2022, 04:11:02 PM EST, Jones, Todd <tej2@...> wrote:
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Whoh Whoh, my wagon was in the Kaiser Willys calendar for 2022, specifically December 2021.?
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Todd
1950 Willys Wagon, Cream Soda. . .
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Whoh Whoh, my wagon was in the Kaiser Willys calendar for 2022, specifically December 2021.?
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Todd
1950 Willys Wagon, Cream Soda. . .
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I'm not getting lost but I'm not sure about some of my stuff. From August of 1986 until October of 2019 I knew where everything was in my 600 sq ft shop. Now I have more than 1500 sq ft of shop and I'm still wandering around wondering where I put certain tools. The 2 propane furnaces sure make working out there comfortable during the cold Washington winter. Plus the upstairs reloading room has a flat screen, blu-ray, coffee maker and 1/2 bath. Retirement is great. I highly recommend it. ;-)
John '56 Pickup TKER TOY
On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 12:28 PM, Pruit Ginsberg via groups.io <pruitg@...> wrote: More like you, John. However, they could have picked a junker. Hope you are doing well and are not lost roaming around in that shop you have. Pruit On Jan 27, 2022, at 12:21 PM, John Barrett via < tkertoy@...> wrote:
Since I stirred the pot between the modifiers and restorers I should add that as a modifier I cringed at seeing the truck cut into 4 pieces but also seeing the quality of work that shop does I'm anxious to see how it turns out. Their intent is to make it slightly longer and wider for driver comfort but still look like a Willys truck. I just enjoy seeing quality work done by skilled craftsmen whether or not it's something I would do.
John '56 Pickup TKER TOY Graham, Wash On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:06 AM, willyswagon230 This is the point, Skip... what is reasonable in today's world.? When I look at my own physical plant, it has been modified with new lenses, considerable tooth remediation, removal of appendix, tonsils and some skin from the end of a protuberance.? Then there's the addition of various chemicals (maintainers & enhancers?) over the years and a little education along the way.? If truth be told, I'm also a "restomod" (have I been improved?) along with our '65 Willys wagon.? Adding disc brakes, 3 point seat belts etc. is a worthwhile improvement if a Willys is to be driven, is it not?? This discussion has been made many times, but surely it comes down to what the owner wants - these are pieces of utility machinery after all, not Duesenbergs, Bugattis, Tatras or Tuckers.
Cheers, Pavel up North.
ps: is thinking about updating to an injected V6 with automatic trans going too far?? What about updating the Willys to a BEV? Are there limits and if so, are they changing?
On 2022-01-27, at 8:48 AM, Skip Owens wrote:
> I may be the odd man out here, but I get the warm & fuzzies any time I see a Willys flat fender on the road, original or modified. Having said that, my 61 pickup is original, but then again maybe not because It does have an aftermarket overdrive, electric wiper motor, two tank master cylinder reservoir, LED tail lights & headlights, a more comfortable bench seat, seatbelts …. ?
>?
> Skip
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More like you, John. However, they could have picked a junker. Hope you are doing well and are not lost roaming around in that shop you have.
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On Jan 27, 2022, at 12:21 PM, John Barrett via < tkertoy@...> wrote:
Since I stirred the pot between the modifiers and restorers I should add that as a modifier I cringed at seeing the truck cut into 4 pieces but also seeing the quality of work that shop does I'm anxious to see how it turns out. Their intent is to make it slightly longer and wider for driver comfort but still look like a Willys truck. I just enjoy seeing quality work done by skilled craftsmen whether or not it's something I would do.
John '56 Pickup TKER TOY Graham, Wash On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:06 AM, willyswagon230 This is the point, Skip... what is reasonable in today's world.? When I look at my own physical plant, it has been modified with new lenses, considerable tooth remediation, removal of appendix, tonsils and some skin from the end of a protuberance.? Then there's the addition of various chemicals (maintainers & enhancers?) over the years and a little education along the way.? If truth be told, I'm also a "restomod" (have I been improved?) along with our '65 Willys wagon.? Adding disc brakes, 3 point seat belts etc. is a worthwhile improvement if a Willys is to be driven, is it not?? This discussion has been made many times, but surely it comes down to what the owner wants - these are pieces of utility machinery after all, not Duesenbergs, Bugattis, Tatras or Tuckers.
Cheers, Pavel up North.
ps: is thinking about updating to an injected V6 with automatic trans going too far?? What about updating the Willys to a BEV? Are there limits and if so, are they changing?
On 2022-01-27, at 8:48 AM, Skip Owens wrote:
> I may be the odd man out here, but I get the warm & fuzzies any time I see a Willys flat fender on the road, original or modified. Having said that, my 61 pickup is original, but then again maybe not because It does have an aftermarket overdrive, electric wiper motor, two tank master cylinder reservoir, LED tail lights & headlights, a more comfortable bench seat, seatbelts …. ?
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> Skip
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Nice Back pedal John!
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Scott
’53 Pickup
Gilbert, MN
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On Behalf Of John Barrett via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 1:22 PM
To: [email protected]; willyswagon230 <pavelb@...>
Subject: Re: [WillysTech] Hot Rod Willys
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Since I stirred the pot between the modifiers and restorers I should add that as a modifier I cringed at seeing the truck cut into 4 pieces but also seeing the quality of work that shop does I'm anxious to see how it turns out. Their intent
is to make it slightly longer and wider for driver comfort but still look like a Willys truck. I just enjoy seeing quality work done by skilled craftsmen whether or not it's something I would do.
Graham, Wash
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On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:06 AM, willyswagon230
This is the point, Skip... what is reasonable in today's world.? When I look at my own physical plant, it has been modified with new lenses, considerable tooth remediation, removal of appendix, tonsils and some
skin from the end of a protuberance.? Then there's the addition of various chemicals (maintainers & enhancers?) over the years and a little education along the way.? If truth be told, I'm also a "restomod" (have I been improved?) along with our '65 Willys
wagon.? Adding disc brakes, 3 point seat belts etc. is a worthwhile improvement if a Willys is to be driven, is it not?? This discussion has been made many times, but surely it comes down to what the owner wants - these are pieces of utility machinery after
all, not Duesenbergs, Bugattis, Tatras or Tuckers.
Cheers, Pavel up North.
ps: is thinking about updating to an injected V6 with automatic trans going too far?? What about updating the Willys to a BEV? Are there limits and if so, are they changing?
On 2022-01-27, at 8:48 AM, Skip Owens wrote:
> I may be the odd man out here, but I get the warm & fuzzies any time I see a Willys flat fender on the road, original or modified. Having said that, my 61 pickup is original, but then again maybe not because It does have an aftermarket overdrive, electric
wiper motor, two tank master cylinder reservoir, LED tail lights & headlights, a more comfortable bench seat, seatbelts ….
?
>
> Skip
>
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Since I stirred the pot between the modifiers and restorers I should add that as a modifier I cringed at seeing the truck cut into 4 pieces but also seeing the quality of work that shop does I'm anxious to see how it turns out. Their intent is to make it slightly longer and wider for driver comfort but still look like a Willys truck. I just enjoy seeing quality work done by skilled craftsmen whether or not it's something I would do.
John '56 Pickup TKER TOY
On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:06 AM, willyswagon230 <pavelb@...> wrote: This is the point, Skip... what is reasonable in today's world.? When I look at my own physical plant, it has been modified with new lenses, considerable tooth remediation, removal of appendix, tonsils and some skin from the end of a protuberance.? Then there's the addition of various chemicals (maintainers & enhancers?) over the years and a little education along the way.? If truth be told, I'm also a "restomod" (have I been improved?) along with our '65 Willys wagon.? Adding disc brakes, 3 point seat belts etc. is a worthwhile improvement if a Willys is to be driven, is it not?? This discussion has been made many times, but surely it comes down to what the owner wants - these are pieces of utility machinery after all, not Duesenbergs, Bugattis, Tatras or Tuckers.
Cheers, Pavel up North.
ps: is thinking about updating to an injected V6 with automatic trans going too far?? What about updating the Willys to a BEV? Are there limits and if so, are they changing?
On 2022-01-27, at 8:48 AM, Skip Owens wrote:
> I may be the odd man out here, but I get the warm & fuzzies any time I see a Willys flat fender on the road, original or modified. Having said that, my 61 pickup is original, but then again maybe not because It does have an aftermarket overdrive, electric wiper motor, two tank master cylinder reservoir, LED tail lights & headlights, a more comfortable bench seat, seatbelts …. ?
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This is the point, Skip... what is reasonable in today's world. When I look at my own physical plant, it has been modified with new lenses, considerable tooth remediation, removal of appendix, tonsils and some skin from the end of a protuberance. Then there's the addition of various chemicals (maintainers & enhancers?) over the years and a little education along the way. If truth be told, I'm also a "restomod" (have I been improved?) along with our '65 Willys wagon. Adding disc brakes, 3 point seat belts etc. is a worthwhile improvement if a Willys is to be driven, is it not? This discussion has been made many times, but surely it comes down to what the owner wants - these are pieces of utility machinery after all, not Duesenbergs, Bugattis, Tatras or Tuckers.
Cheers, Pavel up North.
ps: is thinking about updating to an injected V6 with automatic trans going too far? What about updating the Willys to a BEV? Are there limits and if so, are they changing?
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On 2022-01-27, at 8:48 AM, Skip Owens wrote: I may be the odd man out here, but I get the warm & fuzzies any time I see a Willys flat fender on the road, original or modified. Having said that, my 61 pickup is original, but then again maybe not because It does have an aftermarket overdrive, electric wiper motor, two tank master cylinder reservoir, LED tail lights & headlights, a more comfortable bench seat, seatbelts …. ?
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I may be the odd man out here, but I get the warm & fuzzies any time I see a Willys flat fender on the road, original or modified. Having said that, my 61 pickup is original, but then again maybe not because It does have an aftermarket overdrive, electric wiper motor, two tank master cylinder reservoir, LED tail lights & headlights, a more comfortable bench seat, seatbelts …. ?
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On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 8:32 PM, Benjamin Deasis <bens33ford@...> wrote: Yeah, let’s go! Just like the old days with Landon! The modifying monkeys versus the stock purists. Come on people, let’s feed these flames!   On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:22 PM, bruce parks <b.w.parks@...> wrote:
? If one is so goddamned talented that they can cut up a classic, why can't they just make their own POS from scratch?? I will tell you why...because they are wreckers, not builders.? Makes me nauseous. ?? Awww come on. Tell me what you really think about it.
John '56 Pickup TKER TOY Graham, Wash. On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 7:05 AM, Pruit Ginsberg via Sorry John, what a FU. Pruit > On Jan 23, 2022, at 8:12 PM, John Barrett via <tkertoy= [email protected]> wrote: > > Did any of you see the latest episode of Texas Metal. They took a beautifully restored 1960 pickup from North Dakota and stripped it to bare metal then cut the cab into 4 pieces. The plan is to widen and lengthen it, put it on a custom chassis and drop in a Hellcat engine. Can't wait to see how it turns out. Just remember, anyone can restore a vehicle. It takes balls to cut up a classic. :-) > > > John > > '56 Pickup TKER TOY > > Graham, Wash. > > > > > >
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