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Continuing on the story, the engine from the wagon went to the machine shop for an evaluation.? They didn't like this condition:
What we have are genuine block cracks, cylinders 2 and 3, that go from about an inch on the top, under the valve seat, and down the inside of the valve "hole", not sure of the proper name.? While Locknstich makes products and has a process for dealing with
cracks, the depth down the valve hole they didn't like.
So, the search began for a replacement block.? Nothing on Craigslist, anywhere within 1000 miles.? 150 miles to the south were a pair of engines that were complete, that had been used for a school project years ago, then stored.? Engine #1 looked like this:
No pistons, or pushrod's; surface cylinder rust, one crack, but smaller, and does not extend below valve seat. But never bored out.
Decided to look at engine #2:
Notice the crack across the top, including under the peened area, and from the exhaust valve.? I took this engine back.?
There turned out to be a third block, with no head.? It looked great on the top, no cracks, never bored, hooray! Until a side view revealed...
A little patch and JB weld, maybe?
This engine does have a good crankshaft,? helpful connecting rods, and a decent camshaft.?? So, we're going with the first block, with some parts, probably, from the third block.?
Dan
-- Dan 53 2wd Wagon Eugene, OR
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Continuing on the story, the engine from the wagon went to the machine shop for an evaluation.? They didn't like this condition:
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What we have are genuine block cracks, cylinders 2 and 3, that go from about an inch on the top, under the valve seat, and down the inside of the valve "hole", not sure of the proper name.? While Locknstich makes products and has a process for dealing with cracks, the depth down the valve hole they didn't like.
So, the search began for a replacement block.? Nothing on Craigslist, anywhere within 1000 miles.? 150 miles to the south were a pair of engines that were complete, that had been used for a school project years ago, then stored.? Engine #1 looked like this:
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No pistons, or pushrod's; surface cylinder rust, one crack, but smaller, and does not extend below valve seat. But never bored out.
Decided to look at engine #2:
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Notice the crack across the top, including under the peened area, and from the exhaust valve.? I took this engine back.??
There turned out to be a third block, with no head.? It looked great on the top, no cracks, never bored, hooray! Until a side view revealed...
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A little patch and JB weld, maybe?
This engine does have a good crankshaft,? helpful connecting rods, and a decent camshaft.?? So, we're going with the first block, with some parts, probably, from the third block.??
Dan
--?Dan53 2wd WagonEugene, OR<IMG_1210.jpg><IMG_1219.jpg>
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Really looking forward to periodic updates ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dan Mulholland
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2024 5:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [WillysTech] Dan's overhaul? Continuing on the story, the engine from the wagon went to the machine shop for an evaluation.? They didn't like this condition: What we have are genuine block cracks, cylinders 2 and 3, that go from about an inch on the top, under the valve seat, and down the inside of the valve "hole", not sure of the proper name.? While Locknstich makes products and has a process for dealing with cracks, the depth down the valve hole they didn't like. So, the search began for a replacement block.? Nothing on Craigslist, anywhere within 1000 miles.? 150 miles to the south were a pair of engines that were complete, that had been used for a school project years ago, then stored.? Engine #1 looked like this: No pistons, or pushrod's; surface cylinder rust, one crack, but smaller, and does not extend below valve seat. But never bored out. Decided to look at engine #2: Notice the crack across the top, including under the peened area, and from the exhaust valve.? I took this engine back.? There turned out to be a third block, with no head.? It looked great on the top, no cracks, never bored, hooray! Until a side view revealed... A little patch and JB weld, maybe? This engine does have a good crankshaft,? helpful connecting rods, and a decent camshaft.?? So, we're going with the first block, with some parts, probably, from the third block.?
--
Dan
53 2wd Wagon
Eugene, OR
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A friend of mine has a complete engine. 419 908 3022 his name is jack. Hope tis helps
On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 09:51:34 PM EST, AWORKOFMARC <marcwhittemore@...> wrote:
Really looking forward to periodic updates ? ?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dan Mulholland
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2024 5:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [WillysTech] Dan's overhaul ? Continuing on the story, the engine from the wagon went to the machine shop for an evaluation.? They didn't like this condition: What we have are genuine block cracks, cylinders 2 and 3, that go from about an inch on the top, under the valve seat, and down the inside of the valve "hole", not sure of the proper name.? While Locknstich makes products and has a process for dealing with cracks, the depth down the valve hole they didn't like. So, the search began for a replacement block.? Nothing on Craigslist, anywhere within 1000 miles.? 150 miles to the south were a pair of engines that were complete, that had been used for a school project years ago, then stored.? Engine #1 looked like this: No pistons, or pushrod's; surface cylinder rust, one crack, but smaller, and does not extend below valve seat. But never bored out. Decided to look at engine #2: Notice the crack across the top, including under the peened area, and from the exhaust valve.? I took this engine back.? There turned out to be a third block, with no head.? It looked great on the top, no cracks, never bored, hooray! Until a side view revealed... A little patch and JB weld, maybe? This engine does have a good crankshaft,? helpful connecting rods, and a decent camshaft.?? So, we're going with the first block, with some parts, probably, from the third block.?
--
Dan
53 2wd Wagon
Eugene, OR
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There's also a guy on Youtube, He goes by metalshaper, Who can fix that block.?
On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 05:27:23 AM EST, DAVID HOLLINGSWORTH via groups.io <trader_dave52@...> wrote:
A friend of mine has a complete engine. 419 908 3022 his name is jack. Hope tis helps
On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 09:51:34 PM EST, AWORKOFMARC <marcwhittemore@...> wrote:
Really looking forward to periodic updates ? ?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dan Mulholland
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2024 5:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [WillysTech] Dan's overhaul ? Continuing on the story, the engine from the wagon went to the machine shop for an evaluation.? They didn't like this condition: What we have are genuine block cracks, cylinders 2 and 3, that go from about an inch on the top, under the valve seat, and down the inside of the valve "hole", not sure of the proper name.? While Locknstich makes products and has a process for dealing with cracks, the depth down the valve hole they didn't like. So, the search began for a replacement block.? Nothing on Craigslist, anywhere within 1000 miles.? 150 miles to the south were a pair of engines that were complete, that had been used for a school project years ago, then stored.? Engine #1 looked like this: No pistons, or pushrod's; surface cylinder rust, one crack, but smaller, and does not extend below valve seat. But never bored out. Decided to look at engine #2: Notice the crack across the top, including under the peened area, and from the exhaust valve.? I took this engine back.? There turned out to be a third block, with no head.? It looked great on the top, no cracks, never bored, hooray! Until a side view revealed... A little patch and JB weld, maybe? This engine does have a good crankshaft,? helpful connecting rods, and a decent camshaft.?? So, we're going with the first block, with some parts, probably, from the third block.?
--
Dan
53 2wd Wagon
Eugene, OR
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Best of luck, Dan. ?You are a determined man!? Please forgive this question, but have you considered installing a different engine altogether? ?Could you use a Kubota, a Ford OHC truck 4 (Pinto), odd-fire V6, 3800 V6, even electric, to better end? ?I have a friend who is a Mini enthusiast (the original Mini) - he has replaced/rebuilt the 1098 engine multiple times when he could have adapted a superior-in-every-way Honda unit and had done with it. ?When the Tornado finally dies in our wagon, we will go electric… probably…perhaps Fusion powered…
Cheers,
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On Feb 27, 2024, at 2:27?AM, DAVID HOLLINGSWORTH via groups.io <trader_dave52@...> wrote:
A friend of mine has a complete engine. 419 908 3022 his name is jack. Hope tis helps
Really looking forward to periodic updates?? ? ? Continuing on the story, the engine from the wagon went to the machine shop for an evaluation.? They didn't like this condition: What we have are genuine block cracks, cylinders 2 and 3, that go from about an inch on the top, under the valve seat, and down the inside of the valve "hole", not sure of the proper name.? While Locknstich makes products and has a process for dealing with cracks, the depth down the valve hole they didn't like. So, the search began for a replacement block.? Nothing on Craigslist, anywhere within 1000 miles.? 150 miles to the south were a pair of engines that were complete, that had been used for a school project years ago, then stored.? Engine #1 looked like this: No pistons, or pushrod's; surface cylinder rust, one crack, but smaller, and does not extend below valve seat. But never bored out. Decided to look at engine #2: Notice the crack across the top, including under the peened area, and from the exhaust valve.? I took this engine back.?? There turned out to be a third block, with no head.? It looked great on the top, no cracks, never bored, hooray! Until a side view revealed... A little patch and JB weld, maybe? This engine does have a good crankshaft,? helpful connecting rods, and a decent camshaft.?? So, we're going with the first block, with some parts, probably, from the third block.??
--?
Dan
53 2wd Wagon
Eugene, OR?
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Several years ago I traded a complete l134 to Montana overland for a rear wagon tailgate. I will bet he still has it. He will ship it.?
On Tue, Feb 27, 2024, 10:55?AM willyswagon230 < pavelb@...> wrote: Best of luck, Dan.? You are a determined man!? Please forgive this question, but have you considered installing a different engine altogether?? Could you use a Kubota, a Ford OHC truck 4 (Pinto), odd-fire V6, 3800 V6, even electric, to better end?? I have a friend who is a Mini enthusiast (the original Mini) - he has replaced/rebuilt the 1098 engine multiple times when he could have adapted a superior-in-every-way Honda unit and had done with it.? When the Tornado finally dies in our wagon, we will go electric… probably…perhaps Fusion powered…
Cheers, Pavel up North. On Feb 27, 2024, at 2:27?AM, DAVID HOLLINGSWORTH via <trader_dave52= [email protected]> wrote:
A friend of mine has a complete engine. 419 908 3022 his name is jack. Hope tis helps
Really looking forward to periodic updates?? ? ? Continuing on the story, the engine from the wagon went to the machine shop for an evaluation.? They didn't like this condition: What we have are genuine block cracks, cylinders 2 and 3, that go from about an inch on the top, under the valve seat, and down the inside of the valve "hole", not sure of the proper name.? While Locknstich makes products and has a process for dealing with cracks, the depth down the valve hole they didn't like. So, the search began for a replacement block.? Nothing on Craigslist, anywhere within 1000 miles.? 150 miles to the south were a pair of engines that were complete, that had been used for a school project years ago, then stored.? Engine #1 looked like this: No pistons, or pushrod's; surface cylinder rust, one crack, but smaller, and does not extend below valve seat. But never bored out. Decided to look at engine #2: Notice the crack across the top, including under the peened area, and from the exhaust valve.? I took this engine back.?? There turned out to be a third block, with no head.? It looked great on the top, no cracks, never bored, hooray! Until a side view revealed... A little patch and JB weld, maybe? This engine does have a good crankshaft,? helpful connecting rods, and a decent camshaft.?? So, we're going with the first block, with some parts, probably, from the third block.??
--?
Dan
53 2wd Wagon
Eugene, OR?
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David,
I'm committed to what I'm doing,? should have made a more emphatic ask of the list.?? This is an F head engine.
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A friend of mine has a complete engine. 419 908 3022 his name is jack. Hope tis helps
On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 09:51:34 PM EST, AWORKOFMARC <marcwhittemore@...> wrote:
Really looking forward to periodic updates
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Continuing on the story, the engine from the wagon went to the machine shop for an evaluation.? They didn't like this condition:
What we have are genuine block cracks, cylinders 2 and 3, that go from about an inch on the top, under the valve seat, and down the inside of the valve "hole", not sure of
the proper name.? While Locknstich makes products and has a process for dealing with cracks, the depth down the valve hole they didn't like.
So, the search began for a replacement block.? Nothing on Craigslist, anywhere within 1000 miles.? 150 miles to the south were a pair of engines that were complete, that had
been used for a school project years ago, then stored.? Engine #1 looked like this:
No pistons, or pushrod's; surface cylinder rust, one crack, but smaller, and does not extend below valve seat. But never bored out.
Decided to look at engine #2:
Notice the crack across the top, including under the peened area, and from the exhaust valve.? I took this engine back.?
There turned out to be a third block, with no head.? It looked great on the top, no cracks, never bored, hooray! Until a side view revealed...
A little patch and JB weld, maybe?
This engine does have a good crankshaft,? helpful connecting rods, and a decent camshaft.?? So, we're going with the first block, with some parts, probably, from the third
block.?
--
Dan
53 2wd Wagon
Eugene, OR
-- Dan 53 2wd Wagon Eugene, OR
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Dave,?
Metal shaper, yes, I think he would use the Locknstich technology to work on my original block.? If he were close by, I'd have gone there first.? The machine shop I'm using locally, uses Locknstich, indeed they are using it on the replacement block.? Their
judgment is that the "vertical" cracks are not well suited for it. Another option is to get the engine to the? Locknstich facility in central California and have them do it.? I'm guessing/hoping that the replacement block is a better candidate.? I'm not recycling
the existing block, maybe someone else can use it.
Another factor here -the valve seats.? i? have a vague memory, from the 1970's- when the engine was overhauled - the machine shop had trouble getting the valve seats in.? The shop doing the work now says these seats are uncommonly wide.? It appears to me that
the installation of these seats, however they were fitted, may have caused the cracking.
Metal shaper's discussion of how to make the rear seal work is what motivated me to get into this in the first place.?
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On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 05:27:23 AM EST, DAVID HOLLINGSWORTH via groups.io <trader_dave52@...> wrote:
A friend of mine has a complete engine. 419 908 3022 his name is jack. Hope tis helps
On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 09:51:34 PM EST, AWORKOFMARC <marcwhittemore@...> wrote:
Really looking forward to periodic updates
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Continuing on the story, the engine from the wagon went to the machine shop for an evaluation.? They didn't like this condition:
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What we have are genuine block cracks, cylinders 2 and 3, that go from about an inch on the top, under the valve seat, and down the inside of the valve "hole", not
sure of the proper name.? While Locknstich makes products and has a process for dealing with cracks, the depth down the valve hole they didn't like.
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So, the search began for a replacement block.? Nothing on Craigslist, anywhere within 1000 miles.? 150 miles to the south were a pair of engines that were complete,
that had been used for a school project years ago, then stored.? Engine #1 looked like this:
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No pistons, or pushrod's; surface cylinder rust, one crack, but smaller, and does not extend below valve seat. But never bored out.
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Decided to look at engine #2:
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Notice the crack across the top, including under the peened area, and from the exhaust valve.? I took this engine back.?
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There turned out to be a third block, with no head.? It looked great on the top, no cracks, never bored, hooray! Until a side view revealed...
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A little patch and JB weld, maybe?
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This engine does have a good crankshaft,? helpful connecting rods, and a decent camshaft.?? So, we're going with the first block, with some parts, probably, from the
third block.?
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Dan
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Dan
53 2wd Wagon
Eugene, OR
-- Dan 53 2wd Wagon Eugene, OR
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Pavel,
Good question.? I think of the wagon as a time machine, and like it stock.? Electric conversion ideas are interesting.? Costs are still too high, I think.? As to "determined man"- other labels in this case are perhaps foolish or hardheaded...
As these vehicles are old, just like me, the engine blocks in good condition are difficult to find.?
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Best of luck, Dan. ?You are a determined man!?
Please forgive this question, but have you considered installing a different engine altogether? ?Could you use a Kubota, a Ford OHC truck 4 (Pinto), odd-fire V6, 3800 V6, even electric, to better end? ?I have a friend who is a Mini enthusiast (the original
Mini) - he has replaced/rebuilt the 1098 engine multiple times when he could have adapted a superior-in-every-way Honda unit and had done with it. ?When the Tornado finally dies in our wagon, we will go electric… probably…perhaps Fusion powered…
Cheers,
Pavel up North.
On Feb 27, 2024, at 2:27?AM, DAVID HOLLINGSWORTH via groups.io <trader_dave52@...> wrote:
A friend of mine has a complete engine. 419 908 3022 his name is jack. Hope tis helps
Really looking forward to periodic updates??
?
?
Continuing on the story, the engine from the wagon went to the machine shop for an evaluation.? They didn't like this condition:
What we have are genuine block cracks, cylinders 2 and 3, that go from about an inch on the top, under the valve seat, and down the inside of the valve "hole",
not sure of the proper name.? While Locknstich makes products and has a process for dealing with cracks, the depth down the valve hole they didn't like.
So, the search began for a replacement block.? Nothing on Craigslist, anywhere within 1000 miles.? 150 miles to the south were a pair of engines that were complete,
that had been used for a school project years ago, then stored.? Engine #1 looked like this:
No pistons, or pushrod's; surface cylinder rust, one crack, but smaller, and does not extend below valve seat. But never bored out.
Decided to look at engine #2:
Notice the crack across the top, including under the peened area, and from the exhaust valve.? I took this engine back.??
There turned out to be a third block, with no head.? It looked great on the top, no cracks, never bored, hooray! Until a side view revealed...
A little patch and JB weld, maybe?
This engine does have a good crankshaft,? helpful connecting rods, and a decent camshaft.?? So, we're going with the first block, with some parts, probably,
from the third block.??
--?
Dan
53 2wd Wagon
Eugene, OR?
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-- Dan 53 2wd Wagon Eugene, OR
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Am I correct to think the top is vacuum and bottom is fuel
On Tue, Feb 27, 2024, 11:09?AM jay bernhardt via <bitrootvz= [email protected]> wrote: Several years ago I traded a complete l134 to Montana overland for a rear wagon tailgate. I will bet he still has it. He will ship it.?
On Tue, Feb 27, 2024, 10:55?AM willyswagon230 < pavelb@...> wrote: Best of luck, Dan.? You are a determined man!? Please forgive this question, but have you considered installing a different engine altogether?? Could you use a Kubota, a Ford OHC truck 4 (Pinto), odd-fire V6, 3800 V6, even electric, to better end?? I have a friend who is a Mini enthusiast (the original Mini) - he has replaced/rebuilt the 1098 engine multiple times when he could have adapted a superior-in-every-way Honda unit and had done with it.? When the Tornado finally dies in our wagon, we will go electric… probably…perhaps Fusion powered…
Cheers, Pavel up North. On Feb 27, 2024, at 2:27?AM, DAVID HOLLINGSWORTH via <trader_dave52= [email protected]> wrote:
A friend of mine has a complete engine. 419 908 3022 his name is jack. Hope tis helps
Really looking forward to periodic updates?? ? ? Continuing on the story, the engine from the wagon went to the machine shop for an evaluation.? They didn't like this condition: What we have are genuine block cracks, cylinders 2 and 3, that go from about an inch on the top, under the valve seat, and down the inside of the valve "hole", not sure of the proper name.? While Locknstich makes products and has a process for dealing with cracks, the depth down the valve hole they didn't like. So, the search began for a replacement block.? Nothing on Craigslist, anywhere within 1000 miles.? 150 miles to the south were a pair of engines that were complete, that had been used for a school project years ago, then stored.? Engine #1 looked like this: No pistons, or pushrod's; surface cylinder rust, one crack, but smaller, and does not extend below valve seat. But never bored out. Decided to look at engine #2: Notice the crack across the top, including under the peened area, and from the exhaust valve.? I took this engine back.?? There turned out to be a third block, with no head.? It looked great on the top, no cracks, never bored, hooray! Until a side view revealed... A little patch and JB weld, maybe? This engine does have a good crankshaft,? helpful connecting rods, and a decent camshaft.?? So, we're going with the first block, with some parts, probably, from the third block.??
--?
Dan
53 2wd Wagon
Eugene, OR?
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Are you on the west coast? I just sa a running f head out east on Facebook market.
David,
I'm committed to what I'm doing,? should have made a more emphatic ask of the list.?? This is an F head engine.
A friend of mine has a complete engine. 419 908 3022 his name is jack. Hope tis helps
Really looking forward to periodic updates
?
?
?
Continuing on the story, the engine from the wagon went to the machine shop for an evaluation.? They didn't like this condition:
What we have are genuine block cracks, cylinders 2 and 3, that go from about an inch on the top, under the valve seat, and down the inside of the valve "hole", not sure of
the proper name.? While Locknstich makes products and has a process for dealing with cracks, the depth down the valve hole they didn't like.
So, the search began for a replacement block.? Nothing on Craigslist, anywhere within 1000 miles.? 150 miles to the south were a pair of engines that were complete, that had
been used for a school project years ago, then stored.? Engine #1 looked like this:
No pistons, or pushrod's; surface cylinder rust, one crack, but smaller, and does not extend below valve seat. But never bored out.
Decided to look at engine #2:
Notice the crack across the top, including under the peened area, and from the exhaust valve.? I took this engine back.?
There turned out to be a third block, with no head.? It looked great on the top, no cracks, never bored, hooray! Until a side view revealed...
A little patch and JB weld, maybe?
This engine does have a good crankshaft,? helpful connecting rods, and a decent camshaft.?? So, we're going with the first block, with some parts, probably, from the third
block.?
--
Dan
53 2wd Wagon
Eugene, OR
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Dan
53 2wd Wagon
Eugene, OR
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Jay,
I am on the west coast.?
?If your question is about a stock 4 cyl fuel pump, yes, the top is for vacuum wiper vacuum, works flawlessly, creating the wonderful swipes of the window experienced when going uphill.? The bottom is fuel.
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On Tue, Feb 27, 2024, 11:09?AM jay bernhardt via
<bitrootvz= [email protected]> wrote:
Several years ago I traded a complete l134 to Montana overland for a rear wagon tailgate. I will bet he still has it. He will ship it.?
On Tue, Feb 27, 2024, 10:55?AM willyswagon230 < pavelb@...> wrote:
Best of luck, Dan.? You are a determined man!?
Please forgive this question, but have you considered installing a different engine altogether?? Could you use a Kubota, a Ford OHC truck 4 (Pinto), odd-fire V6, 3800 V6, even electric, to better end?? I have a friend who is a Mini enthusiast (the original
Mini) - he has replaced/rebuilt the 1098 engine multiple times when he could have adapted a superior-in-every-way Honda unit and had done with it.? When the Tornado finally dies in our wagon, we will go electric… probably…perhaps Fusion powered…
Cheers,
Pavel up North.
On Feb 27, 2024, at 2:27?AM, DAVID HOLLINGSWORTH via <trader_dave52= [email protected]> wrote:
A friend of mine has a complete engine. 419 908 3022 his name is jack. Hope tis helps
Really looking forward to periodic updates??
?
?
Continuing on the story, the engine from the wagon went to the machine shop for an evaluation.? They didn't like this condition:
What we have are genuine block cracks, cylinders 2 and 3, that go from about an inch on the top, under the valve seat, and down the inside of the valve "hole",
not sure of the proper name.? While Locknstich makes products and has a process for dealing with cracks, the depth down the valve hole they didn't like.
So, the search began for a replacement block.? Nothing on Craigslist, anywhere within 1000 miles.? 150 miles to the south were a pair of engines that were complete,
that had been used for a school project years ago, then stored.? Engine #1 looked like this:
No pistons, or pushrod's; surface cylinder rust, one crack, but smaller, and does not extend below valve seat. But never bored out.
Decided to look at engine #2:
Notice the crack across the top, including under the peened area, and from the exhaust valve.? I took this engine back.??
There turned out to be a third block, with no head.? It looked great on the top, no cracks, never bored, hooray! Until a side view revealed...
A little patch and JB weld, maybe?
This engine does have a good crankshaft,? helpful connecting rods, and a decent camshaft.?? So, we're going with the first block, with some parts, probably,
from the third block.??
--?
Dan
53 2wd Wagon
Eugene, OR?
<image001.jpg><image002.jpg><image003.jpg><image004.jpg>
-- Dan 53 2wd Wagon Eugene, OR
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That's what I thought but the engine I was talking about had a picture and the fuel line was connected to the top.
Jay,
I am on the west coast.?
?If your question is about a stock 4 cyl fuel pump, yes, the top is for vacuum wiper vacuum, works flawlessly, creating the wonderful swipes of the window experienced when going uphill.? The bottom is fuel.
Am I correct to think the top is vacuum and bottom is fuel
On Tue, Feb 27, 2024, 11:09?AM jay bernhardt via
<bitrootvz= [email protected]> wrote:
Several years ago I traded a complete l134 to Montana overland for a rear wagon tailgate. I will bet he still has it. He will ship it.?
On Tue, Feb 27, 2024, 10:55?AM willyswagon230 < pavelb@...> wrote:
Best of luck, Dan.? You are a determined man!?
Please forgive this question, but have you considered installing a different engine altogether?? Could you use a Kubota, a Ford OHC truck 4 (Pinto), odd-fire V6, 3800 V6, even electric, to better end?? I have a friend who is a Mini enthusiast (the original
Mini) - he has replaced/rebuilt the 1098 engine multiple times when he could have adapted a superior-in-every-way Honda unit and had done with it.? When the Tornado finally dies in our wagon, we will go electric… probably…perhaps Fusion powered…
Cheers,
Pavel up North.
On Feb 27, 2024, at 2:27?AM, DAVID HOLLINGSWORTH via <trader_dave52= [email protected]> wrote:
A friend of mine has a complete engine. 419 908 3022 his name is jack. Hope tis helps
Really looking forward to periodic updates??
?
?
Continuing on the story, the engine from the wagon went to the machine shop for an evaluation.? They didn't like this condition:
What we have are genuine block cracks, cylinders 2 and 3, that go from about an inch on the top, under the valve seat, and down the inside of the valve "hole",
not sure of the proper name.? While Locknstich makes products and has a process for dealing with cracks, the depth down the valve hole they didn't like.
So, the search began for a replacement block.? Nothing on Craigslist, anywhere within 1000 miles.? 150 miles to the south were a pair of engines that were complete,
that had been used for a school project years ago, then stored.? Engine #1 looked like this:
No pistons, or pushrod's; surface cylinder rust, one crack, but smaller, and does not extend below valve seat. But never bored out.
Decided to look at engine #2:
Notice the crack across the top, including under the peened area, and from the exhaust valve.? I took this engine back.??
There turned out to be a third block, with no head.? It looked great on the top, no cracks, never bored, hooray! Until a side view revealed...
A little patch and JB weld, maybe?
This engine does have a good crankshaft,? helpful connecting rods, and a decent camshaft.?? So, we're going with the first block, with some parts, probably,
from the third block.??
--?
Dan
53 2wd Wagon
Eugene, OR?
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Eugene, OR
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Jay,
Let's buy that engine, change the plumbing, and sell it for gazzillions.
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That's what I thought but the engine I was talking about had a picture and the fuel line was connected to the top.
Jay,
I am on the west coast.?
?If your question is about a stock 4 cyl fuel pump, yes, the top is for vacuum wiper vacuum, works flawlessly, creating the wonderful swipes of the window experienced when going uphill.? The bottom is fuel.
Am I correct to think the top is vacuum and bottom is fuel
On Tue, Feb 27, 2024, 11:09?AM jay bernhardt via ?<bitrootvz= [email protected]> wrote:
Several years ago I traded a complete l134 to Montana overland for a rear wagon tailgate. I will bet he still has it. He will ship it.?
On Tue, Feb 27, 2024, 10:55?AM willyswagon230 < pavelb@...> wrote:
Best of luck, Dan.? You are a determined man!?
Please forgive this question, but have you considered installing a different engine altogether?? Could you use a Kubota, a Ford OHC truck 4 (Pinto), odd-fire V6, 3800 V6, even electric, to better end?? I have a friend who is a Mini
enthusiast (the original Mini) - he has replaced/rebuilt the 1098 engine multiple times when he could have adapted a superior-in-every-way Honda unit and had done with it.? When the Tornado finally dies in our wagon, we will go electric… probably…perhaps Fusion
powered…
Cheers,
Pavel up North.
On Feb 27, 2024, at 2:27?AM, DAVID HOLLINGSWORTH via
?<trader_dave52= [email protected]> wrote:
A friend of mine has a complete engine. 419 908 3022 his name is jack. Hope tis helps
Really looking forward to periodic updates??
?
?
Continuing on the story, the engine from the wagon went to the machine shop for an evaluation.? They didn't like this condition:
?
?
What we have are genuine block cracks, cylinders 2 and 3, that go from about an inch on the top, under the valve seat, and down the inside of the valve "hole", not sure of the proper name.?
While Locknstich makes products and has a process for dealing with cracks, the depth down the valve hole they didn't like.
?
So, the search began for a replacement block.? Nothing on Craigslist, anywhere within 1000 miles.? 150 miles to the south were a pair of engines that were complete, that had been used for a
school project years ago, then stored.? Engine #1 looked like this:
?
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?
?
No pistons, or pushrod's; surface cylinder rust, one crack, but smaller, and does not extend below valve seat. But never bored out.
?
Decided to look at engine #2:
?
<image003.jpg>
?
Notice the crack across the top, including under the peened area, and from the exhaust valve.? I took this engine back. ?
?
There turned out to be a third block, with no head.? It looked great on the top, no cracks, never bored, hooray! Until a side view revealed...
?
<image004.jpg>
?
A little patch and JB weld, maybe?
?
This engine does have a good crankshaft,? helpful connecting rods, and a decent camshaft.?? So, we're going with the first block, with some parts, probably, from the third block. ?
?
Dan
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
--?
Dan
53 2wd Wagon
Eugene, OR?
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Dan
53 2wd Wagon
Eugene, OR
-- Dan 53 2wd Wagon Eugene, OR
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Check this?out, the cost plus shipping might be worth it.
Jay,
I am on the west coast.?
?If your question is about a stock 4 cyl fuel pump, yes, the top is for vacuum wiper vacuum, works flawlessly, creating the wonderful swipes of the window experienced when going uphill.? The bottom is fuel.
Am I correct to think the top is vacuum and bottom is fuel
On Tue, Feb 27, 2024, 11:09?AM jay bernhardt via
<bitrootvz= [email protected]> wrote:
Several years ago I traded a complete l134 to Montana overland for a rear wagon tailgate. I will bet he still has it. He will ship it.?
On Tue, Feb 27, 2024, 10:55?AM willyswagon230 < pavelb@...> wrote:
Best of luck, Dan.? You are a determined man!?
Please forgive this question, but have you considered installing a different engine altogether?? Could you use a Kubota, a Ford OHC truck 4 (Pinto), odd-fire V6, 3800 V6, even electric, to better end?? I have a friend who is a Mini enthusiast (the original
Mini) - he has replaced/rebuilt the 1098 engine multiple times when he could have adapted a superior-in-every-way Honda unit and had done with it.? When the Tornado finally dies in our wagon, we will go electric… probably…perhaps Fusion powered…
Cheers,
Pavel up North.
On Feb 27, 2024, at 2:27?AM, DAVID HOLLINGSWORTH via <trader_dave52= [email protected]> wrote:
A friend of mine has a complete engine. 419 908 3022 his name is jack. Hope tis helps
Really looking forward to periodic updates??
?
?
Continuing on the story, the engine from the wagon went to the machine shop for an evaluation.? They didn't like this condition:
What we have are genuine block cracks, cylinders 2 and 3, that go from about an inch on the top, under the valve seat, and down the inside of the valve "hole",
not sure of the proper name.? While Locknstich makes products and has a process for dealing with cracks, the depth down the valve hole they didn't like.
So, the search began for a replacement block.? Nothing on Craigslist, anywhere within 1000 miles.? 150 miles to the south were a pair of engines that were complete,
that had been used for a school project years ago, then stored.? Engine #1 looked like this:
No pistons, or pushrod's; surface cylinder rust, one crack, but smaller, and does not extend below valve seat. But never bored out.
Decided to look at engine #2:
Notice the crack across the top, including under the peened area, and from the exhaust valve.? I took this engine back.??
There turned out to be a third block, with no head.? It looked great on the top, no cracks, never bored, hooray! Until a side view revealed...
A little patch and JB weld, maybe?
This engine does have a good crankshaft,? helpful connecting rods, and a decent camshaft.?? So, we're going with the first block, with some parts, probably,
from the third block.??
--?
Dan
53 2wd Wagon
Eugene, OR?
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Dan
53 2wd Wagon
Eugene, OR
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Jay,
If it wasn't so far away...? I would have wanted to remove the head to inspect the block for obvious problems.? I'm not sure about the fuel line, this is a different pump than mine.? Not sure that the lower line is connected to the fuel pump.?
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Check this?out, the cost plus shipping might be worth it.
Jay,
I am on the west coast.?
?If your question is about a stock 4 cyl fuel pump, yes, the top is for vacuum wiper vacuum, works flawlessly, creating the wonderful swipes of the window experienced when going uphill.? The bottom is fuel.
Am I correct to think the top is vacuum and bottom is fuel
On Tue, Feb 27, 2024, 11:09?AM jay bernhardt via ?<bitrootvz= [email protected]> wrote:
Several years ago I traded a complete l134 to Montana overland for a rear wagon tailgate. I will bet he still has it. He will ship it.?
On Tue, Feb 27, 2024, 10:55?AM willyswagon230 < pavelb@...> wrote:
Best of luck, Dan.? You are a determined man!?
Please forgive this question, but have you considered installing a different engine altogether?? Could you use a Kubota, a Ford OHC truck 4 (Pinto), odd-fire V6, 3800 V6, even electric, to better end?? I have a friend who is a Mini
enthusiast (the original Mini) - he has replaced/rebuilt the 1098 engine multiple times when he could have adapted a superior-in-every-way Honda unit and had done with it.? When the Tornado finally dies in our wagon, we will go electric… probably…perhaps Fusion
powered…
Cheers,
Pavel up North.
On Feb 27, 2024, at 2:27?AM, DAVID HOLLINGSWORTH via
?<trader_dave52= [email protected]> wrote:
A friend of mine has a complete engine. 419 908 3022 his name is jack. Hope tis helps
Really looking forward to periodic updates??
?
?
Continuing on the story, the engine from the wagon went to the machine shop for an evaluation.? They didn't like this condition:
?
?
What we have are genuine block cracks, cylinders 2 and 3, that go from about an inch on the top, under the valve seat, and down the inside of the valve "hole", not sure of the proper name.?
While Locknstich makes products and has a process for dealing with cracks, the depth down the valve hole they didn't like.
?
So, the search began for a replacement block.? Nothing on Craigslist, anywhere within 1000 miles.? 150 miles to the south were a pair of engines that were complete, that had been used for a
school project years ago, then stored.? Engine #1 looked like this:
?
<image002.jpg>
?
?
No pistons, or pushrod's; surface cylinder rust, one crack, but smaller, and does not extend below valve seat. But never bored out.
?
Decided to look at engine #2:
?
<image003.jpg>
?
Notice the crack across the top, including under the peened area, and from the exhaust valve.? I took this engine back. ?
?
There turned out to be a third block, with no head.? It looked great on the top, no cracks, never bored, hooray! Until a side view revealed...
?
<image004.jpg>
?
A little patch and JB weld, maybe?
?
This engine does have a good crankshaft,? helpful connecting rods, and a decent camshaft.?? So, we're going with the first block, with some parts, probably, from the third block. ?
?
Dan
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
--?
Dan
53 2wd Wagon
Eugene, OR?
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Dan
53 2wd Wagon
Eugene, OR
-- Dan 53 2wd Wagon Eugene, OR
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This is my pump. I am hopefully at the end of the rebuild process. Working on the cab as well.?
Jay,
If it wasn't so far away...? I would have wanted to remove the head to inspect the block for obvious problems.? I'm not sure about the fuel line, this is a different pump than mine.? Not sure that the lower line is connected to the fuel pump.?
Check this?out, the cost plus shipping might be worth it.
Jay,
I am on the west coast.?
?If your question is about a stock 4 cyl fuel pump, yes, the top is for vacuum wiper vacuum, works flawlessly, creating the wonderful swipes of the window experienced when going uphill.? The bottom is fuel.
Am I correct to think the top is vacuum and bottom is fuel
On Tue, Feb 27, 2024, 11:09?AM jay bernhardt via ?<bitrootvz= [email protected]> wrote:
Several years ago I traded a complete l134 to Montana overland for a rear wagon tailgate. I will bet he still has it. He will ship it.?
On Tue, Feb 27, 2024, 10:55?AM willyswagon230 < pavelb@...> wrote:
Best of luck, Dan.? You are a determined man!?
Please forgive this question, but have you considered installing a different engine altogether?? Could you use a Kubota, a Ford OHC truck 4 (Pinto), odd-fire V6, 3800 V6, even electric, to better end?? I have a friend who is a Mini
enthusiast (the original Mini) - he has replaced/rebuilt the 1098 engine multiple times when he could have adapted a superior-in-every-way Honda unit and had done with it.? When the Tornado finally dies in our wagon, we will go electric… probably…perhaps Fusion
powered…
Cheers,
Pavel up North.
On Feb 27, 2024, at 2:27?AM, DAVID HOLLINGSWORTH via
?<trader_dave52= [email protected]> wrote:
A friend of mine has a complete engine. 419 908 3022 his name is jack. Hope tis helps
Really looking forward to periodic updates??
?
?
Continuing on the story, the engine from the wagon went to the machine shop for an evaluation.? They didn't like this condition:
?
?
What we have are genuine block cracks, cylinders 2 and 3, that go from about an inch on the top, under the valve seat, and down the inside of the valve "hole", not sure of the proper name.?
While Locknstich makes products and has a process for dealing with cracks, the depth down the valve hole they didn't like.
?
So, the search began for a replacement block.? Nothing on Craigslist, anywhere within 1000 miles.? 150 miles to the south were a pair of engines that were complete, that had been used for a
school project years ago, then stored.? Engine #1 looked like this:
?
<image002.jpg>
?
?
No pistons, or pushrod's; surface cylinder rust, one crack, but smaller, and does not extend below valve seat. But never bored out.
?
Decided to look at engine #2:
?
<image003.jpg>
?
Notice the crack across the top, including under the peened area, and from the exhaust valve.? I took this engine back. ?
?
There turned out to be a third block, with no head.? It looked great on the top, no cracks, never bored, hooray! Until a side view revealed...
?
<image004.jpg>
?
A little patch and JB weld, maybe?
?
This engine does have a good crankshaft,? helpful connecting rods, and a decent camshaft.?? So, we're going with the first block, with some parts, probably, from the third block. ?
?
Dan
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
--?
Dan
53 2wd Wagon
Eugene, OR?
<image001.jpg><image002.jpg><image003.jpg><image004.jpg>
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Dan
53 2wd Wagon
Eugene, OR
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Dan
53 2wd Wagon
Eugene, OR
|
Dan, when you mention your Willys as a "time machine" it reminds me of clip from a memorable old flick.? For a little nostalgia, you can see it on YouTube at 200 year old Volkswagen discovery scene from Woody Allen's "Sleeper" 1973.
I tend to think ahead too much, but as a person nearing the octogenarian stage, can't help but wonder how the next generations view old stock machinery.? I delude myself that restomoded vehicles will be the popular ones... foolish, realistic, deranged?
Cheers, PuN.
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Aah, remember Sleeper well.? Hasn't Apple released the Orgasmatron??? Wonderful film.
The wagon is a time machine because my family had perhaps a 49 2 wd wagon, and one of my father's friends had a 51 2 wd.? I remember standing up behind my mother as she learned how to drive from a friend of hers, on Munsel Lake Road north of Florence, OR in
the Willys. ? No seat belts or restraining devices for little boys then.? My father had a cabinet shop, and the Willys wagon was the delivery vehicle.? My older brother recalls what it was like driving to the big city- Portland- in the wagon- the fast roads-
highway 99 had four lanes-and the Willys was just a little slow.
When my father drove my wagon,? he said that his flathead had more power than my F head.? Which could be true given the state of repair at any given time.
My wagon was found outside of Noti, OR in the spring of 1972.? $200.? Burned a quart of oil every 60 miles.? Removed blackberry vines from the back.? I wet sanded the body for paint during spring term at the University of Oregon.? Did a shade tree overhaul
to quench the oil consumption, which worked.? One cylinder wall had a crack. It ended before piston travel, so no problem.
Did the paint job in Florence.? On the Oregon coast, summertime, the wind is quiet in the morning until 9 or 10 AM, when it builds to a howl.? The compressor we used couldn't keep up with the spray gun.? Spray, pause, spray.? We shot it outside, my friend Mike
sprayed,? while I fished the pine needles out of the wet paint.? Fortunately,? it dried quickly.? Two tone even.
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Dan, when you mention your Willys as a "time machine" it reminds me of clip from a memorable old flick.? For a little nostalgia, you can see it on YouTube at
200 year old Volkswagen discovery scene from Woody Allen's "Sleeper" 1973.
I tend to think ahead too much, but as a person nearing the octogenarian stage, can't help but wonder how the next generations view old stock machinery.? I delude myself that restomoded vehicles will be the popular ones... foolish, realistic, deranged?
Cheers, PuN.
-- Dan 53 2wd Wagon Eugene, OR
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