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L134 slow turnover


 

In a message dated 10/16/98, 2:53:10 PM, WillysTech@... writes:
<< L-134 - SLOW CRANKING ON STARTUP ATTEMPT

My 2A's flathead-4 is *very slow* to turn over while attempting
to start, to the point of battery drain and strain. Makes one
think the engine has too much compression for the starter to
handle.

It will turn a few revolutions, then stop. I must then turn key
again for a new attempt, even on a fresh battery.>>

David, I had a similar problem with a 73 Spitfire. It turned out that the
bearing at the tail end of the starter was worn-out. This allowed the rotor
to rub on the inside of the windings. It created a lot of heat and caused me
to have to attempt multiple starts. If you take the starter off and shake it
and it makes a clunking sound this is most likely the problem. I would take
it apart to verify the problem.

Hope this helps

Rick S


David H. Hatch / N9ZRT
 

Hi from Green Bay...

L-134 - SLOW CRANKING ON STARTUP ATTEMPT

My 2A's flathead-4 is *very slow* to turn over while attempting
to start, to the point of battery drain and strain. Makes one
think the engine has too much compression for the starter to
handle.

It will turn a few revolutions, then stop. I must then turn key
again for a new attempt, even on a fresh battery.

12 volt system. My experience with this engine is new.

Is this common to the 134? Does it sound like I might have
another problem [starter, timing?]

Once running, she is smooth.

VACUUM MOTOR TO INTAKE MANIFOLD - WORKS SUPER

Also, I mounted the vacuum wiper motor to driver's side
windshield. Ran new fuel line hose down to intake manifold only.
It is not attached in any way to fuel pump. Works excellent.
Thanks everyone for your tips on that one. The NAPA guys were
great in finding the fitting for manifold.

Thanks to all in advance.

Dave in Green Bay




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Steve Dunlop
 

Likely you have a starter with 6V field coils. It will need
about 500 amps to turn the engine because of the 6V
field coils. This is more than most batteries can handle.

Your best bet is to take the starter to a really good
auto electric place and have them overhaul it and put
in 12 volt field coils. It will make a world of difference.

I'm assuming that you've checked all the usual stuff,
battery cables, terminals, ground, starter swich,
and so on.

You can try measuring the current drawn by the
starter with an inductive ammeter (buy for $15).
If it is really high then you probably have the 6v
field coils.

-sjd

David H. Hatch / N9ZRT wrote:

From: "David H. Hatch / N9ZRT" <oslc@...>

Hi from Green Bay...

L-134 - SLOW CRANKING ON STARTUP ATTEMPT

My 2A's flathead-4 is *very slow* to turn over while attempting
to start, to the point of battery drain and strain. Makes one
think the engine has too much compression for the starter to
handle.

It will turn a few revolutions, then stop. I must then turn key
again for a new attempt, even on a fresh battery.

12 volt system. My experience with this engine is new.

Is this common to the 134? Does it sound like I might have
another problem [starter, timing?]

Once running, she is smooth.

VACUUM MOTOR TO INTAKE MANIFOLD - WORKS SUPER

Also, I mounted the vacuum wiper motor to driver's side
windshield. Ran new fuel line hose down to intake manifold only.
It is not attached in any way to fuel pump. Works excellent.
Thanks everyone for your tips on that one. The NAPA guys were
great in finding the fitting for manifold.

Thanks to all in advance.

Dave in Green Bay

In progress:

'46 CJ-2a / '72 Honda CB 350K3 Super Sport / '71 Honda CT Trail 70

:)------------------How-To-Reach-Us-----------------(:

David H. Hatch / N9ZRT
Email: oslc@...
Snail: Our Saviour Lutheran Church
120 South Henry Street
Green Bay, Wisconsin 54302
1.920.468.4065 - Work
1.920.468.5757 - Fax
1.920.465-8118 - Residence [Emergency use only]
WWW:

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Sean R. Kerns
 

Dave,

Mine was always like that with 6v, which was consistent with my other
experience with 6V cars, so I considered it normal.
I recently converted to 12V, and it is much faster to crank now.
Used to be if I didn't get it to catch in the first couple of tries, it was
jump-start time. Now it works great.
If I can just get an exhaust and some tires on it, I'll be in great shape.

Sean
'48 CJ-2A

David H. Hatch / N9ZRT wrote:

From: "David H. Hatch / N9ZRT" <oslc@...>

Hi from Green Bay...

L-134 - SLOW CRANKING ON STARTUP ATTEMPT

My 2A's flathead-4 is *very slow* to turn over while attempting
to start, to the point of battery drain and strain. Makes one
think the engine has too much compression for the starter to
handle.

It will turn a few revolutions, then stop. I must then turn key
again for a new attempt, even on a fresh battery.

12 volt system. My experience with this engine is new.

Is this common to the 134? Does it sound like I might have
another problem [starter, timing?]

Once running, she is smooth.

VACUUM MOTOR TO INTAKE MANIFOLD - WORKS SUPER

Also, I mounted the vacuum wiper motor to driver's side
windshield. Ran new fuel line hose down to intake manifold only.
It is not attached in any way to fuel pump. Works excellent.
Thanks everyone for your tips on that one. The NAPA guys were
great in finding the fitting for manifold.

Thanks to all in advance.

Dave in Green Bay

In progress:

'46 CJ-2a / '72 Honda CB 350K3 Super Sport / '71 Honda CT Trail 70

:)------------------How-To-Reach-Us-----------------(:

David H. Hatch / N9ZRT
Email: oslc@...
Snail: Our Saviour Lutheran Church
120 South Henry Street
Green Bay, Wisconsin 54302
1.920.468.4065 - Work
1.920.468.5757 - Fax
1.920.465-8118 - Residence [Emergency use only]
WWW:

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