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Scotchlok bus punctures


 

Recently, I had to remove several track feeders that were connected to
my layout's bus with scotchlok connectors. Removing the scotchlok
connectors, however, inevitably results in open punctures of the bus's
plastic coating. Will have that have any consequences for DCC?

Bill Wilken


 

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Not as long as they are openings are unable to touch another conductor.? I would put some liquid tape on them

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From: Bill Wilken
Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 9:23 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [w4dccqa] Scotchlok bus punctures

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Recently, I had to remove several track feeders that were connected to

my layout's bus with scotchlok connectors. Removing the scotchlok

connectors, however, inevitably results in open punctures of the bus's

plastic coating.? Will have that have any consequences for DCC?

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Bill Wilken

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Bill

Not electrically, have no fear.? However, practically, if you're in a wet environment(Scotchlok connectors are often used in automotive, trailers, etc.), those holes could admit moisture, which could lead to corrosion over time.? In a household environment, I can't imagine it being a problem, unless you're like my neighbour who has a seasonal stream through his basement because it was built on bedrock and the foundation-to-rock seal has deteriorated.

Blair

On 2021-08-03 9:23, Bill Wilken wrote:
Recently, I had to remove several track feeders that were connected to
my layout's bus with scotchlok connectors. Removing the scotchlok
connectors, however, inevitably results in open punctures of the bus's
plastic coating. Will have that have any consequences for DCC?

Bill Wilken








 

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But if you look at the nature of the opening, the exposed conductor is at the bottom of a canyon.? DCC voltages will not leap that canyon to conduct to another potential; you'd need to tape both conductors together, with the holes in both conductors directly adjacent, then fill the interior of the space with salt water to effect any significant current.

I wouldn't worry too much about puncture holes like that, unless your environment is wet, or you're running 115 VAC through the conductor; that's a whole different world.

Blair

On 2021-08-03 11:50, Steve Hubbard via groups.io wrote:

Not as long as they are openings are unable to touch another conductor.? I would put some liquid tape on them

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Sent from for Windows 10

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From: Bill Wilken
Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 9:23 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [w4dccqa] Scotchlok bus punctures

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Recently, I had to remove several track feeders that were connected to

my layout's bus with scotchlok connectors. Removing the scotchlok

connectors, however, inevitably results in open punctures of the bus's

plastic coating.? Will have that have any consequences for DCC?

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Bill Wilken

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No.

I strip the buss and solder my feeders. Afterwards, I almost never cover the joint, it just doesn't need it. As long as the wires are secure enough they can't touch anything else it's fine.

Puckdropper


 

I do the same as Puckdropper and space connections by an inch or more to keep them from touching

Kurt

On Aug 4, 2021, at 4:41 PM, Puckdropper via groups.io <puckdropper@...> wrote:

No.

I strip the buss and solder my feeders. Afterwards, I almost never cover the joint, it just doesn't need it. As long as the wires are secure enough they can't touch anything else it's fine.

Puckdropper





 

Agree with puckdropper and Kurt.? In any situation where I think there's a chance one or more buss wires may drift (due to yanking, pulling, whatever), I simply staple the bus wires to adjacent structure (joists, underside of plywood, or whatever) using an old T-25M stapler and 3/8" cable staples.

Blair


 

Please fill me in on where to get cable staples for the T-25M style staplers.? I found some Klein Coax staples but so far nothing else.

Best,
Ken Harstine
Holyoke, MA


 

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Hi Ken

I have a T25M stapler which successfully fires Arrow T25 staples.? Both are made by Arrow.? The T25 staples are "#256" according to the package, and were purchased three weeks ago at a Home Hardware here in Eastern Ontario, Canada.

I searched Amazon.com (USA) with the term "Arrow T25 staple #256" and got several hits, so they're available.? Maybe try Home Depot or Lowes?

Blair


On 2021-08-06 10:54, Ken Harstine wrote:

Please fill me in on where to get cable staples for the T-25M style staplers.? I found some Klein Coax staples but so far nothing else.

Best,
Ken Harstine
Holyoke, MA


 



On Friday, August 6, 2021, 07:37:52 PM EDT, Blair <smithbr@...> wrote:


Hi Ken

I have a T25M stapler which successfully fires Arrow T25 staples.? Both are made by Arrow.? The T25 staples are "#256" according to the package, and were purchased three weeks ago at a Home Hardware here in Eastern Ontario, Canada.

I searched Amazon.com (USA) with the term "Arrow T25 staple #256" and got several hits, so they're available.? Maybe try Home Depot or Lowes?

Blair


On 2021-08-06 10:54, Ken Harstine wrote:
Please fill me in on where to get cable staples for the T-25M style staplers.? I found some Klein Coax staples but so far nothing else.

Best,
Ken Harstine
Holyoke, MA


 


My Ace Hardware sold them from arrow and I think a store brand, I shop at Do It Best hardware now and they carry them. Some T-25 staplers have a guide to keep your wires in the center of the staple, don't let your wires stray. Don't pinch you wires when you staple. If you staple pinches, don't press as hard, hold it loose.
My T-25 is my friend.
jd
On Friday, August 6, 2021, 11:41:09 PM EDT, john dunn <john.p.dunn@...> wrote:




On Friday, August 6, 2021, 07:37:52 PM EDT, Blair <smithbr@...> wrote:


Hi Ken

I have a T25M stapler which successfully fires Arrow T25 staples.? Both are made by Arrow.? The T25 staples are "#256" according to the package, and were purchased three weeks ago at a Home Hardware here in Eastern Ontario, Canada.

I searched Amazon.com (USA) with the term "Arrow T25 staple #256" and got several hits, so they're available.? Maybe try Home Depot or Lowes?

Blair


On 2021-08-06 10:54, Ken Harstine wrote:
Please fill me in on where to get cable staples for the T-25M style staplers.? I found some Klein Coax staples but so far nothing else.

Best,
Ken Harstine
Holyoke, MA


 

"My T-25 is my friend."

John, Totally agree.? I came across mine last fall in a box of tools that came from my Father-in-law's shop.? I had always been unhappy with either using a T50 stapler (square shoulder staples), nail-in plastic cable clips, or a dozen other methods (I even tried stapling twist ties to the layout bottom!).? Figured I'd give the T-25m a try.? It's a charm.? With the low price of staples, I don't blink twice at moving a wire, or a whole run, it's so easy.

I'm presently wiring the underside of a 12-track staging yard throat(It's on it's side in my staging room - I'm past the age of enjoying wiring from beneath, though I will still do it), and while I solder all my feeders, I use a lot of staples to restrain the resultant wire nest.

The irony?? He used it to staple cedar strips to a form when he built a cedar strip canoe for his son as a wedding present.? I don't believe he ever stapled a cable with it!

Blair