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Re: Conferencing
Gentlemen, I hope you can appreciate the magnitude of
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managing a net of this size, with 90% of the nodes connecting having absolutely no business in the Conference other than their sheer curiosity. We have over 200 repeaters on IRLP and Echolink connected, not to mention the many individual PC users. It is a nightmare for both Kevin and myself just managing the internet side of things, much less having to address the incredible amount of ancillary traffic that has absolutely nothing to do with the net. I am absolutely appalled by nodes from BOTH IRLP and Echolink that connect to an Emergency Response Net and immediately throw out their call sign without monitoring first. It is quite obvious that many Amateurs still have little experience with Emergency nets. The point to move traffic off of the WX Talk conference is not because of bandwidth, but one of managing ONLY the stations that need to report. More than half of the effort of net control is moving LIDS off the net. This has certainly been an educational experience if nothing else, but will certainly lead to some policy implementation for future nets. We MUST have node operators that have links to repeaters, configure their systems to allow Voice Audio ONLY, without all of the courtesy tones, alerts, hang times and connect announcements. It should not be necessary to have all of the extra conferences but it becomes a necessity... if nothing else, to keep the interference to a minimum and pass useful traffic from the affected areas. I suppose I am tired from having done this duty for the last three days straight, so I don't want to sound to harsh, but be assured that we will have information on the voipwx.net page on exactly where you should connect during the next event. I appreciate all of the nodes and repeater owners participating now that continue to tolerate the problem issues of other operators for the benefit of the net. If you wish to experience it first hand, please volunteer for a Net Control Duty ! Danny Musten KD4RAA Echolink - IRLP VOIPWXNET Bridge Manager Raleigh Reflector 9210 -----Original Message-----
From: KC4QLP@... [mailto:KC4QLP@...] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 9:51 PM To: VOIP-WXNET@... Subject: Re: [VOIP-WXNET] Conferencing In a message dated 8/13/04 10:50:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kf4vgx@... writes: NC control is NC, We don't need two give the same information twice to the same person. Also if your not wanting or have a need for Conferencing from Repeaters or links . It should be posted on How were are expected to bring our Repeaters and links into the WX-Talk server. Yep..repeating the info twice only ties up the system and prevents needed traffic from getting through. Plus I could not help but notice the message repeated to the point of insanity asking stations to connect to other conference nodes. Question...if the WX_TALK conference can handle up to 300 connecting stations and problems with bandwidth start to occur at say ,arbitrary number of 150 connections...then why is it stated that the node can handle 300 stations? Maybe I'm missing something,but I just wanted to bring that up. Other than that...all seems well so far today. My station will be around again tomorrow to keep an eye on the Elizabeth City area as I'm sure the guys on the Outer Banks may be up and running tomorrow as Charely passes through eastern NC 73, Bob Carter - KC4QLP -------------------------------------------------------- ------------ Echolink RF node 56703 / eQSO crosslink 145.250 VHF repeater,440.850 UHF link,29.630 repeater -------------------------------------------------------- ------------ Owner and moderator of: Echolink-Open-List@... AMStereo@...,Freebayhams@... |
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Re: Conferencing
KC4QLP@aol.com
In a message dated 8/14/2004 2:27:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, w0jay@... writes:
And yeah there was people conecting and calling CQ. Did you stop and think maybe some of them people that did that was connected to another link that just happended to be connected to the wx_talk server. Not there falt. When I conenected to EDU_Net server it didnt tell me that there was a wx_net. SO maybe your just taking that to far. But who am I? Point taken ...but when I was learning the ropes of ham radio,I was always taught that that it was good amateur practice to listen first before saying anything,then when I did say something I'd put out a quick question..."is this frequency in use?" instead of rattling out 10 CQ's in a row..which isnt good amatuer practice either. Hope your freiends and family made out ok through the storm. 73, Bob Carter - KC4QLP -------------------------------------------------------------------- Echolink RF node 56703 / eQSO crosslink 145.250 VHF repeater,440.850 UHF link,29.630 repeater -------------------------------------------------------------------- ?? Owner and moderator of: Echolink-Open-List@... ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? AMStereo@...,Freebayhams@...? The net is a wild frontier.Dont like what you read,use your delete key. |
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IRLP node 9216 Listen Only
We have established a Listen Only channel for IRLP nodes wishing to
connect to monitor the Hurricane net traffic. You can connect to 9216 for this special listen only channel. This will allow the two-way traffic to take place on the main channel - 9210 for stations only in the affected area. It also minimizes the momentary pulsing on the Ref when you connect and disconnect. Danny KD4RAA Tony VK3JED |
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Re: Conferencing
KC4QLP@aol.com
The point to move traffic off of the WX Talk conference Thats understandable to need to manage stations that are only reporting from the field. Regarding the LIDS...unfortunately those type will be everywhere and in everything no matter what type of policies are implemented in the future. To keep LIDS out of everything would require all hams to take an IQ test and hold a PHD.
Education on the proper setup of a link/repeater in connection with VoIP.That is the key.Until then there will be mass problems. If there were more responsible node ops out there to disable local traffic from getting into the network,then "managing" those nodes not in the effected areas or in a future target zone would not be necessary. If you wish to experience it first hand, please I would love to,but over half a million vistors and residents in Northeast NC and the Outer Banks depend on three radio stations here that I'm a part of to get the word out. I cant do both Ham radio and broadcast radio too. That was proven during many past tropical systems in this area....plus during Isabel,a week and a half non-stop giving information when no area station would do so or were off the air because of the storm. When it comes to chaos,panicky people,every emergency organization,private organization calling,faxing and stopping by plus getting the latest weather reports and NHC updates....I think I know it all to well. Bob Carter Operations/Engineering--Max Media Radio Group/NC Division WGAI-NewsRadio 560 AM Stereo .., WCXL 104.1 Beach 104..., WQDK 99.3 Q-Country..., WWOC 94.5 WaterCountry 94.5 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mid-Atlantic Engineering Services--providing radio stations with engineering services in the middle eastern Atlantic area.E-mail:MidAtlanticEngin@... -------------------------------------------------------------------- Echolink RF node 56703 / eQSO crosslink 145.250 VHF repeater,440.850 UHF link,29.630 repeater -------------------------------------------------------------------- ?? Owner and moderator of: Echolink-Open-List@... ????????????????? AMStereo@...,Freebayhams@...? |
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Re: IRLP Node 4183
Danny Musten KD4RAA
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Re: IRLP Node 4183
Jay
开云体育I Have family and friends in Florida. I
was lissening earlyer in the day ... Didnt know there was a link that I could
sit on to lissen. Im glade the new net controler Had said that. .. Thanks for
the net lets me know what to tell family and friends in the area.
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Good Job all
73 W0JAY (Jay) Oran J Spaulding Jr Echilink Node? #71794
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Re: IRLP Node 4183
Chris Hosman
开云体育I had been monitoring for about an hour and then was away for a few minutes.? When I came back in the area I heard the system coming down.? I didn’t bring it up previously today but will be responsible for disconnecting it if that were to happen again. ? Thanks for facilitating a great resource. ? -Chris <>< KC4F ? -----Original Message-----
From: Danny Musten [mailto:danny@...] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 5:51 PM To: VOIP-WXNET@... Subject: RE: [VOIP-WXNET] IRLP Node 4183 ? Chris, the Hampton Va was blocked for continuous |
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Re: IRLP Node 4183
Chris, the Hampton Va was blocked for continuous
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interference to the net. There were several kerchunks from your system over several minutes. If you can assure me that you will me monitoring and in control of the system, I will lift the block. We welcome your participation. Danny KD4RAA Raleigh Reflector -----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hosman [mailto:chrishosman@...] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 5:31 PM To: VOIP-WXNET@... Subject: [VOIP-WXNET] IRLP Node 4183 I am trying to connect to 9210 reflector to listen in to the net but I get a response from the system that the reflector is not accepting connections from my node. Is this the result of a deliberate exclusion of this node or due to node saturation? I understand that I can listen via EchoLink or other sources, but that doesn???t help out while mobile or otherwise away from a computer. Thanks. -Chris <>< KC4F Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: VOIP-WXNET-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: Conferencing
KC4QLP@aol.com
In a message dated 8/13/04 10:50:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kf4vgx@... writes:
NC control is NC, We don't need two give the same information twice Yep..repeating the info twice only ties up the system and prevents needed traffic from getting through. Plus I could not help but notice the mesage repeated to the point of insanity asking stations to connect to other conference nodes. Question...if the WX_TALK conference can handle up to 300 connecting stations and problems with bandwidth start to occur at say ,arbitrary number of 150 connections...then why is it stated that the node can handle 300 stations? Maybe I'm missing something,but I just wanted to bring that up. Other than that...all seems well so far today. My station will be around again tomorrow to keep an eye on the Elizabeth City area as I'm sure the guys on the Outer Banks may be up and running tomorrow as Charely passes through eastern NC 73, Bob Carter - KC4QLP -------------------------------------------------------------------- Echolink RF node 56703 / eQSO crosslink 145.250 VHF repeater,440.850 UHF link,29.630 repeater -------------------------------------------------------------------- ?? Owner and moderator of: Echolink-Open-List@... ????????????????? AMStereo@...,Freebayhams@...? The net is a wild frontier.Dont like what you read,use your delete key. |
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IRLP Node 4183
Chris Hosman
开云体育I am trying to connect to 9210 reflector to listen in to the net but I get a response from the system that the reflector is not accepting connections from my node.? Is this the result of a deliberate exclusion of this node or due to node saturation? ? I understand that I can listen via EchoLink or other sources, but that doesn’t help out while mobile or otherwise away from a computer. ? Thanks. ? -Chris <>< KC4F |
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K8CPA During Hurricane Net
Bobby
Gentlemen,
just a quick note to see if you cant get FCC action against K8CPA, he is a well known lid across the Detroit area, and his behavior is like what you seen on the net. If you have any questions, comments, or concerns, please e-mail me. I have nextel and if you wish to contact me direct, please state so. Best 73 Bobby - KC8TIH KC8TIH@... |
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3pm Update & Links
WTNT51 KNHC 131857
TCEAT HURRICANE CHARLEY POSITION ESTIMATE NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL 3 PM EDT FRI AUG 13 2004 AT 3 PM EDT....1900Z...THE EYE OF HURRICANE CHARLEY WAS ESTIMATED NEAR LATITUDE 26.4 NORTH...LONGITUDE 82.3 WEST OR ABOUT 25 MILES WEST-SOUTHWEST OF FORT MYERS FLORIDA. THIS POSITION IS ALSO ABOUT 10 MILES WEST OF THE WEST END OF SANIBEL ISLAND. FORECASTER LAWRENCE/BROWN $$WWWW Reliable links: (hourly position estimate) (public discussion) (urgent update) |
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Re: VoIP Hurricane Net open 4AM tomorrow
Jay
开云体育Well sounds good dave. I just dont wanna
keep people from getting in that have things to report to you. Im not in FL
anymore. SO maybe I should not connect. Is the reflector up? maybe that would be
better. I just have family there is Tampa. Not hams but would like to know whats
going on.
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Thanks
73 W0JAY (Jay) Oran J Spaulding Jr Echilink Node? #71794
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Re: Special Update!
Sloan, Iain
Try downloading eQSO. There's an RX only stream there.
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Re: Special Update!
Click the link at the top of the webpage at
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Re: VoIP Hurricane Net open 4AM tomorrow
Dave Anderson
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Re: Special Update!
No problem - I'd suggest something like
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which pushes the data to your computer / email / pager / printer / etc. instead of hoping that websites stay updated (which they don't do to well in big events!) Anyways here's the latest - I won't post anything else unless it's notable... WTNT33 KNHC 131807 TCPAT3 BULLETIN HURRICANE CHARLEY SPECIAL ADVISORY NUMBER 18 NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL 2 PM EDT FRI AUG 13 2004 ...CHARLEY STRENGTHENS TO CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE AND HEADS FOR SOUTHWEST FLORIDA COAST... A HURRICANE WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE FLORIDA KEYS FROM THE DRY TORTUGAS TO THE SEVEN MILE BRIDGE...AND FOR THE FLORIDA WEST COAST FROM EAST CAPE SABLE NORTHWARD TO THE STEINHATCHEE RIVER. AT 2 PM EDT...1800Z...A HURRICANE WARNING IS ISSUED FOR THE SOUTHEAST U.S. COAST FROM COCOA BEACH FLORIDA NORTHWARD TO THE SOUTH SANTEE RIVER SOUTH CAROLINA. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING AND A HURRICANE WATCH ARE ALSO ISSUED FROM NORTH OF THE SOUTH SANTEE RIVER TO CAPE LOOKOUT NORTH CAROLINA. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE FLORIDA KEYS FROM THE SEVEN MILE BRIDGE TO OCEAN REEF...AND ALONG THE SOUTH FLORIDA MAINLAND FROM OCEAN REEF TO SOUTH OF COCOA BEACH FLORIDA... INCLUDING LAKE OKEECHOBEE AND FLORIDA BAY. A TROPICAL STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM CAPE LOOKOUT TO OREGON INLET NORTH CAROLINA INCLUDING PAMLICO SOUND. AT 2 PM EDT...1800Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE CHARLEY WAS LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 26.0 NORTH...LONGITUDE 82.4 WEST OR ABOUT 60 MILES SOUTHWEST OF FT. MYERS FLORIDA. CHARLEY IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHEAST NEAR 20 MPH. ON THIS TRACK...THE CENTER OF CHARLEY SHOULD MAKE LANDFALL IN THE VICINITY OF CHARLOTTE HARBOR FLORIDA LATER THIS AFTERNOON. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS HAVE INCREASED TO NEAR 145 MPH WITH HIGHER GUSTS. THE STRONGEST WINDS ARE CONCENTRATED IN A VERY SMALL AREA NEAR THE CENTER OF THE HURRICANE. SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN WIND SPEED MAY OCCUR BEFORE LANDFALL. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 30 MILES... 45 KM... FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 105 MILES...165 KM. ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 954 MB...28.17 INCHES. STORM SURGE FLOODING IN THE FLORIDA KEYS WILL BE SUBSIDING LATER TODAY. STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 10 TO 15 FEET IS EXPECTED NEAR AND SOUTH OF THE WHERE THE CENTER CROSSES THE FLORIDA WEST COAST. STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 4 TO 7 FEET ALONG AND NEAR THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA AND GEORGIA COASTS IS EXPECTED IN THE NEXT 24 HOURS WITH LESSER FLOODING TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH. RAINFALL TOTALS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES ARE LIKELY ALONG CHARLEYS PATH ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE EASTERN UNITED STATES. THESE RAINS COULD CAUSE LIFE-THREATENING FLASH FLOODS. ISOLATED TORNADOES ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS PARTS OF SOUTHERN AND CENTRAL FLORIDA INCLUDING THE FLORIDA KEYS TODAY. REPEATING THE 2 PM EDT POSITION...26.0 N... 82.4 W. MOVEMENT TOWARD...NORTH-NORTHEAST NEAR 20 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...145 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 954 MB. FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE. THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT 5 PM EDT. FORECASTER LAWRENCE $$ -----Original Message----- |
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Re: Special Update!
Thanks Rob.
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I was just a little imundated as NC and was only looking for the release from NHC on their site. Normally I too use other sources. I didn't even get to check my email till now. :-) Wish I would have earlier. I get several emails a minute during a normal day and today it's much worse. Kevin * REPLY SEPARATOR * On 8/13/2004 at 5:18 PM robertpdale wrote:
BULLETIN HURRICANE CHARLEY UPDATE NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL 115 PM EDT FRI AUG 13 2004 |